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Post by Himmy! on May 10, 2015 11:47:02 GMT -5
The R's are gone, in incredible fashion. Hope they continue to fall through the leagues.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on May 11, 2015 7:53:51 GMT -5
Ugh, so with Leicester probably surviving, it looks like we're going to be stuck with that prick, Pearson.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on May 11, 2015 13:56:31 GMT -5
Fourth basically secure Bare minimum really, but enough for now. I'm hugely delighted with Depay as a first signing of the summer. Add Clyne, Hummels and Gundogan, combined with keeping De Gea, and we'll have had a fantastic summer.
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Post by AmbroseBeforeHoes on May 12, 2015 8:15:28 GMT -5
We're incredibly like Coventry when they were in the PL. They went eventually & look where they are now. One of my favourite ever Villa games that day.
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Post by AmbroseBeforeHoes on May 12, 2015 8:19:46 GMT -5
Nothing to fear in Arsenal then it seems.
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Post by Dan on May 13, 2015 6:46:18 GMT -5
Dissapointed. Chelsea were vintage Chelsea - awful but effective football. Don't want to sound bitter and we weren't brilliant, and to be fair they executed their gameplan very well. Its just a real shame that a club/team with such resources and potential refuse to aim higher than an awful but winning style. They'll never be a 'great' team like the CL winning Bayern/Real/Barca sides of recent years or the teams before them - United late 90s, Milan 80s etc despite having the resources to at least have a crack and a weak league that they can exploit (albeit strong European competition). They should seek more. Drogba is just awful nowadays. Heard he wants another season but god knows who would play him. I understand where you are coming from in terms of playing style, but I think Gary Neville summed it up perfectly the other week in this Video (https://www.facebook.com/ynfathehub/videos/836708196366077/?pnref=story). Mourinho has come in, and completely overhauled an ageing fourth placed Squad replacing about 13 odd Players, in the space of two years, with a net spend of just £40million, into Premier League Champions. That Squad also has one of the youngest average ages in the League too. While the football may not have been pretty on the eye, we also finished with the most wins, the least losses, the best goal difference, the most goals scored away from home, the most clean sheets etc. You can look at that in comparison to United, who in the same time have spent over £200million on which were Premier League Champions, into a side scraping fourth. He's done an incredible job in my opinion, and has a good base to work from and improve minor things like playing attractive football. As a whole though, Jose's been almost impeccable in knowing how to get what result he wants from every Game this Season. A lot of times it's been a case of not needing to win ourselves, but to maintain the gap we have and ensure the sides we are playing don't win and close the gap. It's a marathon not a sprint.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on May 13, 2015 12:51:25 GMT -5
Dissapointed. Chelsea were vintage Chelsea - awful but effective football. Don't want to sound bitter and we weren't brilliant, and to be fair they executed their gameplan very well. Its just a real shame that a club/team with such resources and potential refuse to aim higher than an awful but winning style. They'll never be a 'great' team like the CL winning Bayern/Real/Barca sides of recent years or the teams before them - United late 90s, Milan 80s etc despite having the resources to at least have a crack and a weak league that they can exploit (albeit strong European competition). They should seek more. Drogba is just awful nowadays. Heard he wants another season but god knows who would play him. I understand where you are coming from in terms of playing style, but I think Gary Neville summed it up perfectly the other week in this Video (https://www.facebook.com/ynfathehub/videos/836708196366077/?pnref=story). Mourinho has come in, and completely overhauled an ageing fourth placed Squad replacing about 13 odd Players, in the space of two years, with a net spend of just £40million, into Premier League Champions. That Squad also has one of the youngest average ages in the League too. While the football may not have been pretty on the eye, we also finished with the most wins, the least losses, the best goal difference, the most goals scored away from home, the most clean sheets etc. You can look at that in comparison to United, who in the same time have spent over £200million on which were Premier League Champions, into a side scraping fourth. He's done an incredible job in my opinion, and has a good base to work from and improve minor things like playing attractive football. As a whole though, Jose's been almost impeccable in knowing how to get what result he wants from every Game this Season. A lot of times it's been a case of not needing to win ourselves, but to maintain the gap we have and ensure the sides we are playing don't win and close the gap. It's a marathon not a sprint. How is that in any way a 'minor' thing? Chelsea could have done so much more. He had a poor first season (no improvement in the league over previous season despite being in the best position at the start of March) and a good/great second one (hampered by awful CL showing). You're right he's done well with transfers (De Bruyne & Cuadrado aside), but its not like Chelsea walking the league was a surprise. Everyone knew it was coming from about halfway through last season. He could have played adventurous, exciting football and easily still won the league. Winning and exciting football should go hand in hand, but Jose acts as though they are polar opposites. Jose is the king of 'just enough' in matches, when with this theoretically potentially exciting Chelsea side he should be looking to blow teams away. He has more than 'just enough' in terms of league wins, but how much is that down to abject opposition rather than his team's own talent? I'll be gutted if the Griezmann to Chelsea rumours are true. Jose would clip his wings when really he should be allowed to flourish. I could understand it if he lost Hazard (imo he'll be better than Hazard in a couple of years), but if he goes this season Jose will make him into a less exciting and less talented player.
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Post by Dan on May 13, 2015 18:06:15 GMT -5
I understand where you are coming from in terms of playing style, but I think Gary Neville summed it up perfectly the other week in this Video (https://www.facebook.com/ynfathehub/videos/836708196366077/?pnref=story). Mourinho has come in, and completely overhauled an ageing fourth placed Squad replacing about 13 odd Players, in the space of two years, with a net spend of just £40million, into Premier League Champions. That Squad also has one of the youngest average ages in the League too. While the football may not have been pretty on the eye, we also finished with the most wins, the least losses, the best goal difference, the most goals scored away from home, the most clean sheets etc. You can look at that in comparison to United, who in the same time have spent over £200million on which were Premier League Champions, into a side scraping fourth. He's done an incredible job in my opinion, and has a good base to work from and improve minor things like playing attractive football. As a whole though, Jose's been almost impeccable in knowing how to get what result he wants from every Game this Season. A lot of times it's been a case of not needing to win ourselves, but to maintain the gap we have and ensure the sides we are playing don't win and close the gap. It's a marathon not a sprint. How is that in any way a 'minor' thing? Chelsea could have done so much more. He had a poor first season (no improvement in the league over previous season despite being in the best position at the start of March) and a good/great second one (hampered by awful CL showing). You're right he's done well with transfers (De Bruyne & Cuadrado aside), but its not like Chelsea walking the league was a surprise. Everyone knew it was coming from about halfway through last season. He could have played adventurous, exciting football and easily still won the league. Winning and exciting football should go hand in hand, but Jose acts as though they are polar opposites. Jose is the king of 'just enough' in matches, when with this theoretically potentially exciting Chelsea side he should be looking to blow teams away. He has more than 'just enough' in terms of league wins, but how much is that down to abject opposition rather than his team's own talent? I'll be gutted if the Griezmann to Chelsea rumours are true. Jose would clip his wings when really he should be allowed to flourish. I could understand it if he lost Hazard (imo he'll be better than Hazard in a couple of years), but if he goes this season Jose will make him into a less exciting and less talented player. It's about drilling and fine tuning every single player to have specific duties in every game to get the result required and overall a collected team performance where every player is on the same wave length. Why would we need to play an attacking brand of football against the big sides when all that does is open up the game and leave us exposed on the counter etc. It's common sense, it's a game of tactics, and it's about getting results. People might genuinely appreciate seeing fast counter attacking football like Madrid, or total football like Barcelona, but there is nobody better besides possibly Juventus at being as well drilled tactically and defensively as us. We flopped in Europe this Season but we have a base and a platform to go on from now. The League was always the objective this year and now it's about sustaining that. Jose looks at our Squad as a puzzle and wants players who are adaptable to such minute details. Players like Mikel and Ramires are not great footballers but both have traits that are perfect in certain situations. We're evenly balanced and drilled.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on May 14, 2015 13:49:16 GMT -5
How is that in any way a 'minor' thing? Chelsea could have done so much more. He had a poor first season (no improvement in the league over previous season despite being in the best position at the start of March) and a good/great second one (hampered by awful CL showing). You're right he's done well with transfers (De Bruyne & Cuadrado aside), but its not like Chelsea walking the league was a surprise. Everyone knew it was coming from about halfway through last season. He could have played adventurous, exciting football and easily still won the league. Winning and exciting football should go hand in hand, but Jose acts as though they are polar opposites. Jose is the king of 'just enough' in matches, when with this theoretically potentially exciting Chelsea side he should be looking to blow teams away. He has more than 'just enough' in terms of league wins, but how much is that down to abject opposition rather than his team's own talent? I'll be gutted if the Griezmann to Chelsea rumours are true. Jose would clip his wings when really he should be allowed to flourish. I could understand it if he lost Hazard (imo he'll be better than Hazard in a couple of years), but if he goes this season Jose will make him into a less exciting and less talented player. It's about drilling and fine tuning every single player to have specific duties in every game to get the result required and overall a collected team performance where every player is on the same wave length. Why would we need to play an attacking brand of football against the big sides when all that does is open up the game and leave us exposed on the counter etc. It's common sense, it's a game of tactics, and it's about getting results. People might genuinely appreciate seeing fast counter attacking football like Madrid, or total football like Barcelona, but there is nobody better besides possibly Juventus at being as well drilled tactically and defensively as us. We flopped in Europe this Season but we have a base and a platform to go on from now. The League was always the objective this year and now it's about sustaining that. Jose looks at our Squad as a puzzle and wants players who are adaptable to such minute details. Players like Mikel and Ramires are not great footballers but both have traits that are perfect in certain situations. We're evenly balanced and drilled. Because if you were good enough you would still win. Because that's what all great teams do. And if Chelsea and Jose don't aspire to be a great team then why do they even bother? If it's 'common sense' why do great teams like United, Milan, Liverpool, Real, Barca & Bayern even try and play attacking football? Let's all just sit in our own halves until the fans get bored and convert to rugby. Its not even like a defensive style has to be as boring as Chelsea. Atletico Madrid are well drilled and defensive (and at their peak last year were better than any Chelsea team in the past few years) but still played relatively exciting football because they countered much quicker and pressed relentlessly.
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Post by Dan on May 14, 2015 23:57:57 GMT -5
It's about drilling and fine tuning every single player to have specific duties in every game to get the result required and overall a collected team performance where every player is on the same wave length. Why would we need to play an attacking brand of football against the big sides when all that does is open up the game and leave us exposed on the counter etc. It's common sense, it's a game of tactics, and it's about getting results. People might genuinely appreciate seeing fast counter attacking football like Madrid, or total football like Barcelona, but there is nobody better besides possibly Juventus at being as well drilled tactically and defensively as us. We flopped in Europe this Season but we have a base and a platform to go on from now. The League was always the objective this year and now it's about sustaining that. Jose looks at our Squad as a puzzle and wants players who are adaptable to such minute details. Players like Mikel and Ramires are not great footballers but both have traits that are perfect in certain situations. We're evenly balanced and drilled. Because if you were good enough you would still win. Because that's what all great teams do. And if Chelsea and Jose don't aspire to be a great team then why do they even bother? If it's 'common sense' why do great teams like United, Milan, Liverpool, Real, Barca & Bayern even try and play attacking football? Let's all just sit in our own halves until the fans get bored and convert to rugby. Its not even like a defensive style has to be as boring as Chelsea. Atletico Madrid are well drilled and defensive (and at their peak last year were better than any Chelsea team in the past few years) but still played relatively exciting football because they countered much quicker and pressed relentlessly. I see what you are saying mate. A lot of the times though we tore apart the lesser sides. I was at Selhurst Park this Season and we had a record amount of possession and passes recorded in an English Game. When we go away to Arsenal for example though, a team filled with a lot more pace and creativity than us, at the end of the Season, it becomes about playing to your strengths compared to theirs, and if there is more chance of us winning the game by sitting back and nicking one on the counter then so be it. We can build from what we have now though to get to where we want to be. It's not going to happen overnight. This year was about getting the defence right and learning how to go the distance, and if you don't get it right at the back you won't win anything (Look at Liverpool last Season). We can now focus on signing some more creative players to progress on further in that part of the game. It's all a step by step progress.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on May 15, 2015 9:39:38 GMT -5
Telegraph are reporting that Hull midfielder Jake Livermore has tested positive for cocaine.
I wonder if he'll get sacked like Mutu did.
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Post by Himmy! on May 15, 2015 11:36:34 GMT -5
After seeing the way he played against Arsenal it's probably for the best.
What an idiot though.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on May 16, 2015 1:52:58 GMT -5
Looks like De Gea is on his way out of United.
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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on May 16, 2015 3:09:10 GMT -5
Just when Mike starts to look forward to next season.....
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 7:50:18 GMT -5
Wow, Villa getting dismantled. Feel bad for Benteke.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 8:39:12 GMT -5
Villa just reminding us villa fans not to get complacent. They are villa after all.
Terrible today though, should be ashamed of themselves. Guaranteed that spurs will slip up now against hull.
Urghhhh.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 10:58:06 GMT -5
From last to 14th, and a potential for 13th. Impressive turn around for Leicester. Newcastle though is in total free-fall mode, but I still think Hull drops down. Now time to settle in for Gerrard's last one at Anfield.
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Post by Markw on May 16, 2015 11:08:19 GMT -5
Post when we draw, I even post when we draw.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 11:11:19 GMT -5
Another backup keeper against us. Of course. Still calling a 2-1 victory. At least, I hope.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 11:34:13 GMT -5
Only villa can lose 6-1 and avoid relegation on the same day UTV!
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