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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 9:25:03 GMT -5
If Lebron returns to cleveland...... Smh
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Post by SMK on Jul 9, 2014 11:57:52 GMT -5
Either Cleveland is desperately clearing cap space, or like Houston, they were just waiting until they had the commitment they wanted before making the Jack trade.
edit: So Cleveland traded a 1st rounder as well. Seems highly unlikely they would do that without knowing something we don't. If LBJ spurned them, that would almost certainly end up being a lottery pick.
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Post by Quanthor on Jul 9, 2014 14:12:33 GMT -5
Not buying a potential Cleveland return. Cavs fans really need to temper their expectations or they'll get what's left of their hearts eviscerated when he signs elsewhere.
I still think he stays in Miami. They would still have a better shot to win next year than Cleveland would.
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Post by SMK on Jul 9, 2014 14:33:23 GMT -5
Cleveland or no Cleveland, the level of intrigue is insane right now. You've got people on Twitter posting pictures of his supposed kids waiting for a plane to Cleveland, and pictures of a moving company in front of his supposed house. Oh, the anticipation!
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Post by K Dot on Jul 9, 2014 17:40:08 GMT -5
Not buying a potential Cleveland return. Cavs fans really need to temper their expectations or they'll get what's left of their hearts eviscerated when he signs elsewhere. I still think he stays in Miami. They would still have a better shot to win next year than Cleveland would. Really?? With an elite talent pool of Cole, Wade, Napier, Granger and McRoberts? I don't buy it. Kyrie, LeBron and Wiggins alone is better than that Miami team. Add in Varejao, Thompson, and Waiters and they can shake things up in the weak East.
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Post by Mr. K.O on Jul 9, 2014 18:02:39 GMT -5
Cleveland can be a deadly team with the combo of Wiggins, Irving, and LeBron. And they are a young team too which can only mean they get better as years go on. If LeBron doesn't go to Cleveland then I think it would be a missed opportunity. Not that staying in Miami or going somewhere else is bad, it's just that there isn't a better overall team than the one he can have in Cleveland.
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Post by K Dot on Jul 9, 2014 18:13:15 GMT -5
I just don't like how he leaves when the going gets tough.
-Left Cleve after promising a title... -May leave Miami after the whole parade and saying "Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4... etc"
He obviously doesn't owe Miami anything but he needs to keep his mouth shut at times. It's like he's asking for the criticism.
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Post by LA Times on Jul 9, 2014 19:43:00 GMT -5
Something better happen today. And I don't mean a minor signing. I want some juicy, ground breaking news! I also want to know what KG's doing next season... The Celtics made a trade! They are getting Tyler Zeller and a future 1st rd pick from the Cavaliers and Marcus Thornton from the Nets while giving up almost nothing. So far, next seasons team looks like SF-Jeff Green PF-Jared Sullinger C-Kelly Olynyk SG-Avery Bradley PG-Rajon Rondo BenchCenters-Tyler Zeller, Vitor Faverani, Joel Anthony Forwards-Brandon Bass, Gerald Wallace Guards-James Young, Marcus Smart They need to get rid of Jeff Green, Gerald Wallace and Joel Anthony somehow
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 20:06:05 GMT -5
Wait so what did the cavs get in the trade? Why would they even give up a 1st round pick. Seriously though that cleveland team with Lebron may not even win the east. They would be overrated, varejao isn't that good. Wiggins has no experience. Kyrie ball hogs. The hawks and bulls have a better chance at winning the east.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 20:10:25 GMT -5
Wait so what did the cavs get in the trade? Why would they even give up a 1st round pick. Seriously though that cleveland team with Lebron may not even win the east. They would be overrated, varejao isn't that good. Wiggins has no experience. Kyrie ball hogs. The hawks and bulls have a better chance at winning the east. You would think that, but part of the selling point is the fact that the cavs can trade for Kevin Love, and that love has expressed an interest in going and resigning should James sign.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 20:12:53 GMT -5
Wait so what did the cavs get in the trade? Why would they even give up a 1st round pick. Seriously though that cleveland team with Lebron may not even win the east. They would be overrated, varejao isn't that good. Wiggins has no experience. Kyrie ball hogs. The hawks and bulls have a better chance at winning the east. You would think that, but part of the selling point is the fact that the cavs can trade for Kevin Love, and that love has expressed an interest in going and resigning should James sign. adding love would help the cavs a lot. Right now if he goes to the cavs and assuming they add allen and miller.I say they would still lose to the west champs- id say spurs. Now if they trade for love and still get allen and miller then yeah I'd say that team would stand a chance at the title.
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Post by Tim of thee on Jul 9, 2014 20:17:07 GMT -5
LeBron to the Cavs makes too much sense for him not to consider. They are better than the Heat. But how messed up is it that LeBron leaves and Gilbert is gifted 3 no 1 picks and now he gets the worlds top player back?
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Post by SMK on Jul 10, 2014 0:49:03 GMT -5
Wait so what did the cavs get in the trade? Why would they even give up a 1st round pick. Seriously though that cleveland team with Lebron may not even win the east. They would be overrated, varejao isn't that good. Wiggins has no experience. Kyrie ball hogs. The hawks and bulls have a better chance at winning the east. Huh? The Hawks? Not a CHANCE the Hawks would have a better go of it in the East then whatever team winds up with the best player in the world. The Bulls could be tough, if Rose comes back healthy. If LeBron goes to the Cavs, I have to believe they're the favorites to go to the Finals. Who challenges them? Aforementioned Bulls, a Pacers team that may not retain Stephenson, and the Raptors perhaps. We could be waiting until 2015 or 2016 when the Knicks add another piece to Melo for a legit challenger to LeBron's team.
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Post by Quanthor on Jul 10, 2014 13:02:23 GMT -5
Not buying a potential Cleveland return. Cavs fans really need to temper their expectations or they'll get what's left of their hearts eviscerated when he signs elsewhere. I still think he stays in Miami. They would still have a better shot to win next year than Cleveland would. Really?? With an elite talent pool of Cole, Wade, Napier, Granger and McRoberts? I don't buy it. Kyrie, LeBron and Wiggins alone is better than that Miami team. Add in Varejao, Thompson, and Waiters and they can shake things up in the weak East. Irving and Wiggins are fine, but they're not exactly mature. I don't believe that just those three can win a title next season. Even if they managed to get to the Finals, they would be crushed by whatever West team get's there. You're talking about a couple of kids. James is an amazing player, but there's going to be growing pains playing with those two guys. It took Miami a year to figure some things out and that was a team full of vets, not kids.
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Post by Quanthor on Jul 10, 2014 13:08:00 GMT -5
Wait so what did the cavs get in the trade? Why would they even give up a 1st round pick. Seriously though that cleveland team with Lebron may not even win the east. They would be overrated, varejao isn't that good. Wiggins has no experience. Kyrie ball hogs. The hawks and bulls have a better chance at winning the east. You would think that, but part of the selling point is the fact that the cavs can trade for Kevin Love, and that love has expressed an interest in going and resigning should James sign. You gotta love the anti-poker face the Cavs have put on with that announcement. Are the Cavs a better organization today than they were when LeBron left? Or is it still poorly managed? If I'm Minny I'm not accepting anything less than Wiggins, 2 future first rounders while sending crap I don't want in return.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 13:11:52 GMT -5
You would think that, but part of the selling point is the fact that the cavs can trade for Kevin Love, and that love has expressed an interest in going and resigning should James sign. You gotta love the anti-poker face the Cavs have put on with that announcement. Are the Cavs a better organization today than they were when LeBron left? Or is it still poorly managed? If I'm Minny I'm not accepting anything less than Wiggins, 2 future first rounders while sending crap I don't want in return. Accept the wolves do not have a leg to stand on considering they will lose Love for nothing next year. They have nothing in their favor when it comes to this. No team is stupid enough to take Love without a commitment to sign long term. They wont rent a player for a year like the lakers did with Howard.
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Post by Justin on Jul 10, 2014 13:21:07 GMT -5
You would think that, but part of the selling point is the fact that the cavs can trade for Kevin Love, and that love has expressed an interest in going and resigning should James sign. You gotta love the anti-poker face the Cavs have put on with that announcement. Are the Cavs a better organization today than they were when LeBron left? Or is it still poorly managed? If I'm Minny I'm not accepting anything less than Wiggins, 2 future first rounders while sending crap I don't want in return. If I'm MIN I want Waiters or Bennett too in that deal
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Post by Quanthor on Jul 10, 2014 14:23:31 GMT -5
You gotta love the anti-poker face the Cavs have put on with that announcement. Are the Cavs a better organization today than they were when LeBron left? Or is it still poorly managed? If I'm Minny I'm not accepting anything less than Wiggins, 2 future first rounders while sending crap I don't want in return. Accept the wolves do not have a leg to stand on considering they will lose Love for nothing next year. They have nothing in their favor when it comes to this. No team is stupid enough to take Love without a commitment to sign long term. They wont rent a player for a year like the lakers did with Howard. So they are going to accept any crappy package the Cavs provide them because Love wants to play there? Cavs are pretty desperate too.You have a shot a getting Love, you're not going to be ultra conservative. A lot of these teams were in poor situations with their star players demanding out and did fine. They didn't just get mauled over by the team they were trading with.
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Post by K Dot on Jul 10, 2014 14:24:21 GMT -5
Really?? With an elite talent pool of Cole, Wade, Napier, Granger and McRoberts? I don't buy it. Kyrie, LeBron and Wiggins alone is better than that Miami team. Add in Varejao, Thompson, and Waiters and they can shake things up in the weak East. Irving and Wiggins are fine, but they're not exactly mature. I don't believe that just those three can win a title next season. Even if they managed to get to the Finals, they would be crushed by whatever West team get's there. You're talking about a couple of kids. James is an amazing player, but there's going to be growing pains playing with those two guys. It took Miami a year to figure some things out and that was a team full of vets, not kids. I don't think Miami would win either if LBJ stayed. Wade is basically done. He's on his final legs. Bosh keeps proving that he can't bang in the paint and keeps taking shots from downtown. It really showed this year that Miami doesn't have a "Big Three", it's "Big One" with Bosh and Wade. Their team is so flawed but got through the playoffs because of LBJ and the lack of talent in the East. Kyrie, if he can stay healthy, is on the cusp of being a superstar in the NBA. Wiggins, I agree, is very raw right now and needs development but with the Cavs also pursuing Ray Allen AND Miller, cmon you can't say that LBJ would have a better chance of winning in Miami when he could have Kyrie, Wiggins, Varejao, Ray and Miller. Maybe the 1st year they won't win it but the years after, it could be the Cavs ruling the East.
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Post by K Dot on Jul 10, 2014 14:25:54 GMT -5
LeBron to the Cavs makes too much sense for him not to consider. They are better than the Heat. But how messed up is it that LeBron leaves and Gilbert is gifted 3 no 1 picks and now he gets the worlds top player back? Gilbert truly is a moron and a hypocrite.
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