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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jul 16, 2014 12:22:23 GMT -5
I remember the Elevation X match with AJ Styles and Rhino. The entire time I was just worried that AJ was going to hurt himself because I knew he would be the one taking the bump.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 14:14:03 GMT -5
I remember the Elevation X match with AJ Styles and Rhino. The entire time I was just worried that AJ was going to hurt himself because I knew he would be the one taking the bump. Yeah that bump looked pretty damn painful.
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Post by Brad on Jul 16, 2014 14:17:14 GMT -5
I've not seen many of these matches. They honestly never appealed to me.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Jul 16, 2014 15:51:16 GMT -5
Was Vic spams ok that looked crazy Just about. I believe that was when New Jack legit tried to kill him by throwing him off. Yup. Jack wanted him to hit the ring post. Vic had quite a few injuries from it.
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Jul 16, 2014 18:14:31 GMT -5
I remember in an old issue of Inside Wrestling, they mentioned Koko B Ware & (I think) Norvell Austin having the very first scaffold Match in the Mid-South area. It was in the early 80s. And I think Koko ended up breaking his wrist in it.
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Post by Duck Holliday on Jul 17, 2014 4:24:14 GMT -5
If there was a great one I never saw it.
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Post by JC Motors on Jul 18, 2014 10:18:34 GMT -5
I have a feeling that that was Vince Russo's idea
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Post by jeffro2000 on Jul 18, 2014 11:20:34 GMT -5
I've only seen the early WCW ones, and I thought they were terrible for the most part. However, as a kid, I was excited for them. The one with PN News is probably the worst.
The wrestlers just can't do anything up there, and don't want to fall obviously. The ME/R. Warrior one is memorable only because of Cornette shredding his knee.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jul 18, 2014 13:25:18 GMT -5
Scaffold matches in the 80s were great because we had never seen anyone fall from that elevation before. Even a "bad" fall like where Eaton hangs for 5 minutes then drops was huge because things like that had never been done. Now days, scaffold matches are garbage. They have to gimmick the hell out of the match by putting tables down or wrapping something in barbwire and making it completely unrealistic at all.
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Post by gelatinoustapeworm on Jul 18, 2014 16:34:59 GMT -5
Didn't the Powers of Pain leave Jim Crockett Promotions/WCW because they were booked to wrestle the Road Warriors in a series of scaffold matches at house shows? I could swear I remember reading that somewhere. If true, I can't say that I blame them. I can't imagine Warlord or Barbarian taking that fall from the scaffold and you know Hawk and Animal weren't losing.
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Post by marino13 on Jul 18, 2014 17:28:33 GMT -5
As a 12 year old kid I loved the Scaffold match. And I totally dreamed of being in one when I got older. I was a very dumb child.
As a 36 year old adult there ain't no f***ing way I'd do it. My body hurts enough from all the dumb stuff I did and this damn near would have killed me.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Jul 19, 2014 4:21:52 GMT -5
Scaffold matches in the 80s were great because we had never seen anyone fall from that elevation before. Even a "bad" fall like where Eaton hangs for 5 minutes then drops was huge because things like that had never been done. Now days, scaffold matches are garbage. They have to gimmick the hell out of the match by putting tables down or wrapping something in barbwire and making it completely unrealistic at all. Say what you will but I'll take a scaffold match with table bumps over the straight drop to the mat. That's just plain unsafe. Devon Moore and Trent Acid had an awesome Scaffold match in PWU. I don't expect many in this section of the forum to have seen it but for an Indy scaffold match its pretty great and doesn't have ridiculous weapons or anything.
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Jul 19, 2014 7:34:19 GMT -5
The only good scaffold matches are ones on the indies in companies like CZW, PWU and IWA-MS where the match takes place in the ring and there are painters scaffolds on each side or one corner of the ring to bump off of. The ones in WCW, NWA, ECW and XPW were always bad. Not enough room to actually do anything. Which always made the matches quite the opposite of entertaining. I'll add the Elevation X match from TNA to the crapty group as well. Even though AJ Styles tried his best to make that good. I hate traditional scaffold matches because they're almost always just complete garbage. But the one scaffold match I've seen live was awesome. JC Bailey versus Devon Moore at the never to be released IWA Mid South Kings of Extreme (thanks Big Vision Entertainment..). It was a TLC & Scaffold match. They did a lot of smaller dives with the ladders and to the floor, then did two big bumps off of the scaffold. Devon wrestled a very similar match in CZW against Drake Younger
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Jul 19, 2014 7:38:21 GMT -5
Scaffold matches in the 80s were great because we had never seen anyone fall from that elevation before. Even a "bad" fall like where Eaton hangs for 5 minutes then drops was huge because things like that had never been done. Now days, scaffold matches are garbage. They have to gimmick the hell out of the match by putting tables down or wrapping something in barbwire and making it completely unrealistic at all. Say what you will but I'll take a scaffold match with table bumps over the straight drop to the mat. That's just plain unsafe. Devon Moore and Trent Acid had an awesome Scaffold match in PWU. I don't expect many in this section of the forum to have seen it but for an Indy scaffold match its pretty great and doesn't have ridiculous weapons or anything. swear I didn't read page 2 before posting. Probably the only time in history of the Classic Wrestling board that two straight posts put over Devon Moore
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Jul 19, 2014 8:06:59 GMT -5
Say what you will but I'll take a scaffold match with table bumps over the straight drop to the mat. That's just plain unsafe. Devon Moore and Trent Acid had an awesome Scaffold match in PWU. I don't expect many in this section of the forum to have seen it but for an Indy scaffold match its pretty great and doesn't have ridiculous weapons or anything. swear I didn't read page 2 before posting. Probably the only time in history of the Classic Wrestling board that two straight posts put over Devon Moore He is the self proclaimed king of the scaffold match
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jul 20, 2014 4:59:48 GMT -5
As a 12 year old kid I loved the Scaffold match. And I totally dreamed of being in one when I got older. I was a very dumb child. As a 36 year old adult there ain't no f***ing way I'd do it. My body hurts enough from all the dumb stuff I did and this damn near would have killed me. Those matches were dangerous beyond belief. I watched one in Roanoke where Hawk lost his balance and began slipping down the ladder area--head first--over the concrete. One of the Russians (I can't remember which one) who were wrestling them actually had to grab Hawk and pull him back up. He tried to pretend like he was choking Hawk, but everyone in the arena knew that Hawk had narrowly avoided a serious accident.
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Post by marino13 on Jul 20, 2014 8:01:10 GMT -5
As a 12 year old kid I loved the Scaffold match. And I totally dreamed of being in one when I got older. I was a very dumb child. As a 36 year old adult there ain't no f***ing way I'd do it. My body hurts enough from all the dumb stuff I did and this damn near would have killed me. Those matches were dangerous beyond belief. I watched one in Roanoke where Hawk lost his balance and began slipping down the ladder area--head first--over the concrete. One of the Russians (I can't remember which one) who were wrestling them actually had to grab Hawk and pull him back up. He tried to pretend like he was choking Hawk, but everyone in the arena knew that Hawk had narrowly avoided a serious accident. I just can't believe anyone ever thought that was a good idea.
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Post by erokthegreatest on Sept 2, 2014 14:44:44 GMT -5
I've never seen a good scaffold match. Maybe High Incident Tommy Dreamer vs. Brian Lee. I think the key to this one was that they actually brawled around the arena before the match, longer than they were actually on the scaffold. It was a pretty smart way to go about the match I think.
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