The Hitman
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Post by The Hitman on Jul 22, 2014 12:27:45 GMT -5
Honestly I got sick of this whole thing months ago. Do I want to see him back? Absolutely. Will I stop watching if he's not back? Hell no. Never say never, but Punk looks happy, so hats off to him.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Jul 22, 2014 12:31:01 GMT -5
He says with a smirk and then says "oh they're going to hold me to that, aren't they?" Come on now. You guys know the first rule of wrestling...
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Post by RybackV1 on Jul 22, 2014 12:51:50 GMT -5
Punk is a stubborn a hole.
He's burnt his bridge with WWE. And they should take legal action because of his breach of contract. He handled the entire situation like a complete juvenile and I wish everyone could just forget about him already.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jul 22, 2014 13:38:30 GMT -5
Punk is a stubborn a hole. He's burnt his bridge with WWE. And they should take legal action because of his breach of contract. He handled the entire situation like a complete juvenile and I wish everyone could just forget about him already. I believe that he discussed it with Vince McMahon and Triple H. Paul Heyman I think it was, said that the only three people who know what happened in Punk's final meeting were the three of them. I think, and I could be wrong, that they all worked something out. They may not have been happy about it, but that's probably why no charges were filed.
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Post by RybackV1 on Jul 22, 2014 13:44:19 GMT -5
Punk is a stubborn a hole. He's burnt his bridge with WWE. And they should take legal action because of his breach of contract. He handled the entire situation like a complete juvenile and I wish everyone could just forget about him already. I believe that he discussed it with Vince McMahon and Triple H. Paul Heyman I think it was, said that the only three people who know what happened in Punk's final meeting were the three of them. I think, and I could be wrong, that they all worked something out. They may not have been happy about it, but that's probably why no charges were filed. That means nothing. He could've told them " I'll be back for mania for sure I just need some time " and ended up leaving for good. Taking his ball and going home. Missing countless HUGE contractual obligations. Hell WWE even had to GIVE REFUNDS at first to fans because Punk wasn't at the shows he was advertised for. Punk should pay every penny of those refunds out of his own bitter pocket.
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killerkapowski
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Switched from Motorola to a PrimeCo phone...
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Post by killerkapowski on Jul 22, 2014 13:56:35 GMT -5
Ah well, it's not like he's the first wrestler to ever "take his ball". Austin and HBK have done this in the 90s. No one leaves pro wrestling for good...woooo!
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AJ F'n Brooks
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Thank You AJ Lee!
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Jul 22, 2014 14:00:59 GMT -5
Man he looks pretty happy and healthy which is very important so I'm happy for him. Sucks that he is gone, he's my all time favorite male wrestler and he is surely missed. Hope he comes back one day so I can MARK THE F*** OUT when Cult of Personality hits!
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jul 22, 2014 14:05:39 GMT -5
Punk is a stubborn a hole. He's burnt his bridge with WWE. Nobody ever really burns their bridge with WWE anymore -- even Macho Man, if he hadn't died, would probably have been back in the WWE family by now. Bret, Bruno, Hogan, Piper, Warrior, they all come back after the big arguments, sometimes multiple times over. If he ever feels like coming back, and he's willing to work for the money/schedule they want him on, he'll be back. If not... Well, he's already a multi-millionaire with a great wrestling career behind him (albeit a really poor last year of it) and many years ahead to follow any passions that he wants to pursue.
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Post by rustyy on Jul 22, 2014 14:10:58 GMT -5
Punk is a stubborn a hole. He's burnt his bridge with WWE. And they should take legal action because of his breach of contract. He handled the entire situation like a complete juvenile and I wish everyone could just forget about him already. God, you sound like a bitter ex girlfriend. Yeah, he handled it like a Juvenile, I forgot you're actually Triple H or Vince McMahon and would know that. WWE more than likely can't do anything because they waited and still profited from him, and he's an independent contractor therefore once he completes his dates he can leave.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jul 22, 2014 14:16:25 GMT -5
WWE more than likely can't do anything because they waited and still profited from him, and he's an independent contractor therefore once he completes his dates he can leave. He didn't work all his dates, and WWE could have frozen his contract (the way they have done with Mysterio) but it wouldn't have been worthwhile to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 14:20:02 GMT -5
If Bret Hart, Ultimate Warrior and Bruno Sammartino came back then so will Phil Brooks.
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Post by rustyy on Jul 22, 2014 14:30:25 GMT -5
WWE more than likely can't do anything because they waited and still profited from him, and he's an independent contractor therefore once he completes his dates he can leave. He didn't work all his dates, and WWE could have frozen his contract (the way they have done with Mysterio) but it wouldn't have been worthwhile to do so. I'm not too sure about that, I've heard some people have a certain amount of dates and if they work more than usual in the time leading up then they are just working for more pay. That may not be the case but no one really knows. Yeah you're right about freezing the contract though.
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kevlev34
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Post by kevlev34 on Jul 22, 2014 14:31:20 GMT -5
Obviously I don't know Punk other than being a huge fan of his, but I'm echoing most statements here. Do I think he's retired for the foreseeable future? Absolutely. Do I think he's retired permanently? Highly unlikely. I think it's somewhat safe for me to say that being a professional wrestler is in his heart and eventually that will lead him back. For now, he needs to find his peace of mind which it seems like he is doing, we can all agree he looks much more healthy and rested at least, so good for him.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Jul 22, 2014 14:58:09 GMT -5
For the people who are saying that CM Punk should have been in the main event of Wrestlemania 30, yeah it wasn't gonna happen. Wrestlemania 30 was Daniel Bryan's time to shine, his time to become one of the top guys in the business. I'm convinced that CM Punk was pissed off that Daniel Bryan got pushed to the main event. Sure he'll say "Oh, I'm real happy for Daniel Bryan getting this push", but deep down, I think he was pissed and I feel that he thinks he deserves everything. Now this is coming from a CM Punk fan, a huge CM Punk who in 2011 when RAW came to Cleveland, I did everything possible to buy a ticket to see CM Punk. I feel that CM Punk got more than his fair share in WWE. The whole "Person's in the title picture, then he's not" situation, this has happened with a lot of people. Perfect example is Randy Savage. He wasn't always given the title, he went from IC Title to World Title to Macho King in the WWF back in the 80's and early 90's. That didn't dis-motivate Randy Savage to still bust his ass to entertain the people, so I think CM Punk is a little selfish to leave the way he is. I feel he left because if he wasn't gonna be pushed as the top guy, he wasn't gonna be motivated to do anything. You know what, look at Orton. He wasn't always in the title picture. I remember a time when I started thinking, "When's the last time he got a title shot", before he got the heel turn push in 2013. Just my view on that subject, and remember, this is coming from a huge CM Punk fan who wants him to return. Me too, and I would hope that he WAS annoyed by Bryan's push. If he wasn't pissed off that Bryan - friend or not - basically took his spot, after he'd worked his arse off for the last six and a half years to get there, that means he really did lose his passion. As for Punk getting "more than his fair share"... well, I disagree. Granted he got more than some - but it was no more than he deserved. However, he was also overlooked numerous times, seeing as he never got a Rumble win and of course he never got what he truly deserved, which was a headline match at WM and an opportunity to close the show. I can only imagine how he felt, while having to first watch the Miz take his spot at WM 27 - which was an utter disgrace - and then the Rock and Cena stink-fest at WM 29... while he - and anyone else with a clue, knew all along that it should've been him in those matches. Also, there always seemed to be an agenda behind what they gave Punk, like they didn't give him it because he was the best, like they should've done, but rather because their hand was forced. He was second-choice for the ECW title behind Morrison (what a joke), only getting it because Morrison got suspended. He only got his first MITB because Jeff Hardy got suspended. His first run as WHC was a joke due to poor booking and a clueless creative team. Yeah he was champ for 434 days, but he was still second-fiddle to Cena. Kayfabe-wise - despite coming off the longest championship run of the modern era, he wasn't even deemed important enough to challenge the streak outright, like HHH and HBK, Orton - and even Henry before him... instead having to earn the right to face 'Taker by winning a pointless fatal 4 way first. That's right, the LONGEST REIGNING WWE CHAMPION OF THE LAST 25 YEARS had to EARN THE RIGHT to challenge the Undertaker at WM. The only championship run that felt 100% organic, was the '09 feud with Hardy... and we all know how that ended up, with Punk becoming a victim of petty, childish, behind-the-scenes, political bullcrap, so in the end even that was tainted. Was he selfish for walking away? Maybe a little, but he'd had so many slaps in the face from the management over the years - and you just don't treat your best talent that way, so I can't blame him for deciding that he'd had enough. I just hope that he comes back sometime. I don't understand why he doesn't want to be on the road with AJ though. Punk is a stubborn a hole. He's burnt his bridge with WWE. And they should take legal action because of his breach of contract. He handled the entire situation like a complete juvenile and I wish everyone could just forget about him already. Cool story bro. Give over with that crap will you. Also, people aren't going to forget about Punk anytime soon. He was too good and left too big a mark on the business to be forgotten. Maybe if he was a talentless, personality-free, boring, drone like a Ryback, he might have been... but an elite talent like Punk isn't easily forgotten.
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Post by sean™ on Jul 22, 2014 15:09:16 GMT -5
I look forward to the day that people collectively just let it go. The chanting is rather annoying, especially since they are chanting for someone who isn't there and thus can't/won't respond to them.
No one guy is bigger than the show, even if he is your favorite or the best or whatever. People not giving newer superstars a chance and writing them off on the first night because they aren't Punk or as good as Punk is no better than anyone holding anyone else back or down.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 15:19:40 GMT -5
I think he'll be back by WM32.
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Post by A-Rob on Jul 22, 2014 15:22:18 GMT -5
never say never in wrestling. everyone has come back or has had some contact with WWE even if they were banned or swore they were never going back, only Randy Savage never returned
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 15:29:07 GMT -5
never say never in wrestling. everyone has come back or has had some contact with WWE even if they were banned or swore they were never going back, only Randy Savage never returned Even he probably would've if hadn't died. I mean he was already in All Stars, and he some figures coming out.
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Post by JC Motors on Jul 22, 2014 15:37:02 GMT -5
I hope he signs with GFW
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 15:37:28 GMT -5
For the people who are saying that CM Punk should have been in the main event of Wrestlemania 30, yeah it wasn't gonna happen. Wrestlemania 30 was Daniel Bryan's time to shine, his time to become one of the top guys in the business. I'm convinced that CM Punk was pissed off that Daniel Bryan got pushed to the main event. Sure he'll say "Oh, I'm real happy for Daniel Bryan getting this push", but deep down, I think he was pissed and I feel that he thinks he deserves everything. Now this is coming from a CM Punk fan, a huge CM Punk who in 2011 when RAW came to Cleveland, I did everything possible to buy a ticket to see CM Punk. I feel that CM Punk got more than his fair share in WWE. The whole "Person's in the title picture, then he's not" situation, this has happened with a lot of people. Perfect example is Randy Savage. He wasn't always given the title, he went from IC Title to World Title to Macho King in the WWF back in the 80's and early 90's. That didn't dis-motivate Randy Savage to still bust his ass to entertain the people, so I think CM Punk is a little selfish to leave the way he is. I feel he left because if he wasn't gonna be pushed as the top guy, he wasn't gonna be motivated to do anything. You know what, look at Orton. He wasn't always in the title picture. I remember a time when I started thinking, "When's the last time he got a title shot", before he got the heel turn push in 2013. Just my view on that subject, and remember, this is coming from a huge CM Punk fan who wants him to return. I would hope that he was annoyed by Bryan's push. If he wasn't pissed off that Bryan - friend or not - basically took his spot, after he'd worked his arse off for the last six and a half years to get there, that means he really did lose his passion. As for Punk getting "more than his fair share"... well, I disagree. Granted he got more than some - but it was no more than he deserved. However, he was also overlooked numerous times, seeing as he never got a Rumble win and of course he never got what he truly deserved, which was a headline match at WM and an opportunity to close the show. I can only imagine how he felt, while having to first watch the Miz take his spot at WM 27 - which was an utter disgrace - and then the Rock and Cena stink-fest at WM 29... while he - and anyone else with a clue, knew all along that it should've been him in those matches. Also, there always seemed to be an agenda behind what they gave Punk, like they didn't give him it because he was the best, like they should've done, but rather because their hand was forced. He was second-choice for the ECW title behind Morrison (what a joke), only getting it because Morrison got suspended. He only got his first MITB because Jeff Hardy got suspended. His first run as WHC was a joke due to poor booking and a clueless creative team. Yeah he was champ for 434 days, but he was still second-fiddle to Cena. Kayfabe-wise - despite coming off the longest championship run of the modern era, he wasn't even deemed important enough to challenge the streak outright, like HHH and HBK, Orton - and even Henry before him... instead having to earn the right to face 'Taker by winning a pointless fatal 4 way first. The only chamionship run that felt 100% organic, was the '09 feud with Hardy... and we all know how that ended up, with Punk becoming a victim of petty, childish, behind-the-scenes, political bullcrap. Was he selfish for walking away? Maybe a little, but he'd had so many slaps in the face from the management over the years - and you just don't treat your best talent that way, so I can't blame him for deciding that he'd had enough. I just hope that he comes back sometime. So, he should be pissed at Bryan why? Did Daniel Bryan not work his ass off? I'm sorry, but the mass majority of wrestling fans put Daniel Bryan in that spot. WWE didn't even originally have Bryan in that spot. They ultimately didn't have much of a choice. If Daniel Bryan had anything to do with Punk leaving, then that is very childish indeed. A smaller, possibly harder working, guy who didn't have to cut shoot promos to get over, he ORGANICALLY became the hottest act in the company on his own. You've got some valid points, but that's certainly not one of them. Being as Punk's only memorable match after WrestleMania 29 was with Brock, it looked like he was almost "mailing it in." If he was burned out, then whatever. That stuff happens. But Y2J was burned out back in 2005. He helped get someone more over on his way out. He didn't just pack up and leave. This is and always will be a touchy subject. I simply don't think he handled it in the most professional way. Regardless of if reports were true or not, he didn't want to work H at Mania, was pissed about part timers, and was mentally and physically burned out. I can understand about the Batista issue, but CM Punk was and never will be a star of The Rock's calibur. In my opinion, he could've handled it better. Yeah yeah he didn't "owe us anything" and people point to Austin leaving. Thing is, Austin has stated numerous times before that was probably the biggest mistake he ever made. Punk was "burned out" and wanted to go home in 2011, too. But he signed a contract day of the ppv because he probably got what he wanted. He didn't get what he wanted this time, so he left. I don't deem that respectable. But all of us have our opinions on him. But the ones who worship the ground he walks on will justify what he did to the death. It's almost impossible to debate about it. My own bottom line opinion, agree or not, is that he is whiny. He didn't get what he wanted so he throws hissy fits and leaves(like children do). I am ADMITTINGLY a Punk basher. I know this and I'm okay with it. I have the right to do so. With that being said, I'm not trying to bash on him here, or argue. Just stating my real opinion of him. It's subjective to opinions whether he's their 'best' talent or if he's the 'Best in the world' - remember he self applied that name. As for the 2009 title loss fiasco, maybe he shouldn't disrespect someone like Taker who is a legend in the business and was a staple in the WWE locker room for years and years. You RARELY hear anything negative about Taker. RARELY. So if you're 3 years or so into your WWE career and you disrespect someone like that, then you get what you deserve IMO. I'm no Cena fan, but did Cena get to the top by disrespecting legends, WWE execs, etc. How could Punk not expect any backlash from that. He is talented. No doubt. A great and a great wrestler. His talents are great for the wrestling business. His attitude, not so much.
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