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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 11:09:26 GMT -5
really Ziggler came out of the feud looking like a star. were the only match he won was thanks to AJ. I guess you missed that cage match on raw were Cena kicked out of three finising moves plus interference form big e.
don't even get me started on Bray Wyatt I suppose the fact that the only match he won was because of a singing kid did not hurt him.
stop defending Cena and realize that he also shares some of the blame. if you don't take as the face of the company that he can't speak up and. say this is a bad idea when creative comes to him for the ending of a match than you are delusional.
Lol dude calm down, truth be told I'm not even a Cena fan, I think him being in the spotlight for 10 years has been a bad idea and really hurt WWE in the long run. I think Rock and Austin succeeded because they had somewhat short runs on top from 98-02 and people didnt get bored of them doing the same schtick for that long. I compare the Cena/Creative situation to what Batista said in an interview back after he won the 2014 Rumble. If management and creative are giving you the top spot repeatedly, are you going to say no, we should go with this other guy instead? Of course if you're looking to carry the company you're going to want to continue your own personal success. Not every guy in the back is an Edge or a Jericho and can see when a new up and comer needs to get put over for the company to stay fresh and continue succeeding. I don't think Cena is very good in noticing when new talent deserves to go over. But at the same time creative and Vince are the ones coming up with the ideas to have Cena repeatedly go over in the first place. And yes I do think that Ziggler, Wyatt, hell even Barrett could have easily come out looking like a million bucks if WWE/Creative had continued pushing these guys like they had while they were feuding with Cena. Rusev's shtick is getting old quickly. Lana bashes the US and then somebody like Swagger or Henry comes out and goes 'Murica  yeah' and then they feud. Once that feud is over --> repeat with new 'Murica yeah'-guy. Not impressed I completely agree, the Rusev gimmick has gotten rather old rather quickly. It has been exactly the same thing week after week since about May. Jack Swagger should have gone over Rusev at least once, to save Swagger from becoming an absolute joke. Swagger was getting huge pops when he turned face, its sad that WWE did nothing with it. you can blame creative all you want. but it is impossible to continued a guy's momentum. when in the case of ziggler he need the help of. AJ lee who at the time looked like a 12 year old who shops at baby gap Or in the case Barrett lost o a guy who was ddt on unprotected concrete. or Bray Wyatt needed the help of a singing kid after Cena. thwarted the interference of Harper and Rowan numors times. |
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Post by Dan on Sept 18, 2014 11:17:35 GMT -5
The more they are suddenly building this as American vs Russia rather than Rusev vs whoever, only leads me to think that the end plan is for Kurt Angle to Return and beat Rusev. The way they went into Mark Henry's Olympic history coming up short to Russia only solidified my thoughts that Angle is coming home.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 11:28:35 GMT -5
Who would I like to end it? Dean Ambrose!
I was thinking...... What if Swagger made another try in a few months. He never got beat he got KO'd, passed out, and ref stopped it. I could see him coming out and lana laughing at him until a certain gold medalist came out to be in his corner. They could play it as Angle sharpened Swaggers skills enough to give him the edge.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 12:24:02 GMT -5
I hope it isn't Cena. There's an opportunity here for someone to get a good rub.
Ryback would be my hope and choice to be honest.
If Angle returns(big if they showed NO interest the last time)I would mark like a little girl. But I truly believe WWE are afraid of Angles physical condition to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 12:59:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 13:02:26 GMT -5
It's not like i'll be watching anyway giving i change the station when he is on.
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Post by HVMMONS on Sept 18, 2014 13:08:29 GMT -5
Jack Swagger. Hands down. As much as I love WWE, and Angle, they need to stop bringing in part timers. It's gotten ridiculous.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Sept 18, 2014 14:46:10 GMT -5
I'm lucid that it wasn't Swagger. That was his big chance to get over as a face. He's fallen dramatically sine then. Granted that may have happened anyway, but I don't think it would have. Make him America guy. They could always go back and rectify this. Rusev's loss should be sometime else gain, don't waste the monster on someone who really doesn't need it. It won't help Cena at all. Of course I wouldn't say no to Hogan somehow magically doing it
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Post by Evil Abed on Sept 18, 2014 14:54:49 GMT -5
Lol dude calm down, truth be told I'm not even a Cena fan, I think him being in the spotlight for 10 years has been a bad idea and really hurt WWE in the long run. I think Rock and Austin succeeded because they had somewhat short runs on top from 98-02 and people didnt get bored of them doing the same schtick for that long. I compare the Cena/Creative situation to what Batista said in an interview back after he won the 2014 Rumble. If management and creative are giving you the top spot repeatedly, are you going to say no, we should go with this other guy instead? Of course if you're looking to carry the company you're going to want to continue your own personal success. Not every guy in the back is an Edge or a Jericho and can see when a new up and comer needs to get put over for the company to stay fresh and continue succeeding. I don't think Cena is very good in noticing when new talent deserves to go over. But at the same time creative and Vince are the ones coming up with the ideas to have Cena repeatedly go over in the first place. And yes I do think that Ziggler, Wyatt, hell even Barrett could have easily come out looking like a million bucks if WWE/Creative had continued pushing these guys like they had while they were feuding with Cena. you can blame creative all you want. but it is impossible to continued a guy's momentum. when in the case of ziggler he need the help of. AJ lee who at the time looked like a 12 year old who shops at baby gap Or in the case Barrett lost o a guy who was ddt on unprotected concrete. or Bray Wyatt needed the help of a singing kid after Cena. thwarted the interference of Harper and Rowan numors times. Lol I gotta admit your reply made me laugh. I'm beginning to wonder if it was written by a 12 year old that shops at baby gap haha. Seriously man learn some punctuation, and not even trying to sound funny but I'm not sure how to respond to some of the remarks. Like what were you shooting for here? "you can blame creative all you want. but it is impossible to continued a guy's momentum."
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Post by Daniel Arshad on Sept 18, 2014 17:07:29 GMT -5
People voting for Kurt Angle but saying Cena shouldn't be the one who beats Rusev are hypocrites, straight up. To me, Swagger would've been the best choice to defeat Rusev; look at the amount of momentum he got during their feud. He has a good mouthpiece in Zeb, he can work and put on good matches, and had he been the one to give Rusev his first loss, it would've instantly created a new, hot babyface that was easy to get behind; something which the WWE has struggled hard to do for a long time, now. Instead, they choose to go this ancient route of building up a dragon for the top guy to slay, when we've seen time and again, that dynamic is beyond dated and does no favors to anyone; Cena gets hated for "burying a top guy in the making", the guy who he beats falls by the wayside since he's basically gone to the proverbial mountain top and tumbled all the way back down, and then eventually they're drinking tea with Santino or jobbing to Kofi on Superstars.
So, IMO, they should have Bo Dallas "re-motivate" Swagger, get him refocused and ready to go at Rusev again; AFTER he's beaten Cena; not a clean victory, but not an unnecessarily overbooked one, either. Have him "crush" Cena, run through the upper mid-card, and have Swagger come back as the cavalry to slay the beast.
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Post by King Silva on Sept 18, 2014 17:13:36 GMT -5
Angle for sure but Cena was always the plan imo...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 18:14:06 GMT -5
Be the first feud Rusev receives cheers in |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 18:22:59 GMT -5
Kurt Angle would be awesome, but that guy is so broken down. Ryback would be awesome, actually. Good way to turn him back into a baby face.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 19:09:47 GMT -5
I pick Swagger. Build them both up and have Swagger get another chance at Rusev at WM.
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Post by ryan93 on Sept 18, 2014 21:05:31 GMT -5
I would hope it would be Ryback but I highly doubt it since they will just continue to use him the same way when he returns from injury. I voted for Cena because it's the best bet of those as he always gets the job of just killing off a dominant monster. But if Angle returned it would be great for him to feud and beat Rusev. It wouldn't hurt Rusev to lose to him but Cena just kills off these monster heels. Just look what happened to Umaga and Khali just to name a few. After Cena beat them they were over and the same would happen to Rusev.
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Post by Midnight on Sept 18, 2014 21:11:39 GMT -5
Rusev blows, at this point I hope the bunny defeats Rusev.
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Post by The Yes Man on Sept 18, 2014 22:17:17 GMT -5
I would hope it would be Ryback but I highly doubt it since they will just continue to use him the same way when he returns from injury. I voted for Cena because it's the best bet of those as he always gets the job of just killing off a dominant monster. But if Angle returned it would be great for him to feud and beat Rusev. It wouldn't hurt Rusev to lose to him but Cena just kills off these monster heels. Just look what happened to Umaga and Khali just to name a few. After Cena beat them they were over and the same would happen to Rusev. Khali became WHC like a month after he lost to Cena... |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 19, 2014 4:18:33 GMT -5
Barrett lost o a guy who was ddt on unprotected concrete. Batista and Randy Orton lost to a guy who got BatistabombRKOd through a table. Dammit Bryan's holding them down! |
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Post by Brad on Sept 19, 2014 6:11:03 GMT -5
Realistically, Cena. I'm okay with that.
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Post by JuiceWinslow on Sept 20, 2014 18:27:15 GMT -5
Undertaker. American Bad@ss.
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