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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 13, 2014 21:06:34 GMT -5
not to mention both brought 2 totally different attitudes and viewpoints about their time in the business,and both dealt with the other talent in different ways. HBK of the 90's would not have lost as many matches as the veteran HBK was willing to do,to get others over. though to be fair,I still think he should've beaten Cena at Mania 23 for one last run on top. I'm with you as far as WM 23 goes. He made up for that loss in the epic WM rematch in England tho. I think his 2002 run as champ was lackluster as f***. He could've had one hell of a rivalry with RVD that could've carried over into No Way Out. Would've been badass to see HBK as champ defending the WHC in Canada against RVD. The crowd alone would've made that match insanely insane. honestly,considering his WHC reign in 2002 lasted only a month, I would've rathered he didn't get it at all,since in the end it was basically only to put Triple h over more. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 4:31:04 GMT -5
Also, on topic, I'm 26 and still think Summerslam 2002 is easily the best one ever. Agreed. I'm over 20yrs old also. |
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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 14, 2014 6:49:25 GMT -5
Also, on topic, I'm 26 and still think Summerslam 2002 is easily the best one ever. Agreed. I'm over 20yrs old also. LOL! I'm over 20 years old as well...by like 20 years! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 9:00:11 GMT -5
I'm with you as far as WM 23 goes. He made up for that loss in the epic WM rematch in England tho. I think his 2002 run as champ was lackluster as f***. He could've had one hell of a rivalry with RVD that could've carried over into No Way Out. Would've been badass to see HBK as champ defending the WHC in Canada against RVD. The crowd alone would've made that match insanely insane. honestly,considering his WHC reign in 2002 lasted only a month, I would've rathered he didn't get it at all,since in the end it was basically only to put Triple h over more. Oh yeah he was def keeping the belt warm for HHH...who held it for waaay too long in 2003. It would've been nice just to see a bit more substance to HBKs title reign. When he did win it, I was anticipating a title defense in Canada. The amount of heat he drew in Canada after 1997 was insane. They should've capitalized on it in 2002. But with hindsight being 20/20, if WWE were to have followed that route, we more than likely wouldn't have gotten that glorious WM match with Y2J. |
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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 14, 2014 9:09:27 GMT -5
honestly,considering his WHC reign in 2002 lasted only a month, I would've rathered he didn't get it at all,since in the end it was basically only to put Triple h over more. Oh yeah he was def keeping the belt warm for HHH...who held it for waaay too long in 2003. It would've been nice just to see a bit more substance to HBKs title reign. When he did win it, I was anticipating a title defense in Canada. The amount of heat he drew in Canada after 1997 was insane. They should've capitalized on it in 2002. But with hindsight being 20/20, if WWE were to have followed that route, we more than likely wouldn't have gotten that glorious WM match with Y2J. eh,maybe still. rematch with Triple H at No Way Out 2003. HBK won't give Jericho a title shot,and since he didn't win the Rumble, he isn't entitled to one. so Jericho costs Michaels the Belt,setting up the WM19 match. |
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Nov 14, 2014 16:27:15 GMT -5
Summerslam 2002 is defo a STRONG contender for best SSlam ever. So is SSeries 2002 actually.... 2002 had some great PPVs. if X-Seven and XIX (probably the two greatest WMs ever) weren't sandwiching it, then WM X-8 would get more credit imo. Now the real question... SummerSlam 2002 or Survivor Series 2002? I always disliked SummerSlam 2002 as Rock lost and I was only 8/9 at the time, so it was still real to me. I loved the HBK and Mysterio-Angle matches though. Survivor Series pips it for me though. The first Elimination Chamber was so unique and awesome, and its probably still the best one to date. I love it even more because Jericho's second book talks about how they totally  ed up the order haha. I remember being so shocked when Heyman turned on Brock, although for an adult it was probably easily telegraphed. I also like that some people have included SummerSlam 2000 in their lists. I think that's an underrated one. God dammit, why was basically every PPV in the main AE era great apart from WrestleMania? I know they didn't focus on WM as a big show half as much as they do now, but both X-V and 2000 kinda sucked whereas the theoretically smaller PPVs around them were killing it left right and centre. Dude I totally agree and never thought of thT before! There were two very distinct versions of HBK and both were PHENOMINAL enough to get a HOF spot of their own. not to mention both brought 2 totally different attitudes and viewpoints about their time in the business,and both dealt with the other talent in different ways. HBK of the 90's would not have lost as many matches as the veteran HBK was willing to do,to get others over. though to be fair,I still think he should've beaten Cena at Mania 23 for one last run on top. I read somewhere that pretty much up until the day of the event the plan was for HBK to win. I'm not sure why they changed it. I'm not a Cena hater, but I would have loved that. HBK deserved that moment, the crowd wanted it and it wouldn't have hurt Cena. He definitely could have won it back a bit later and it would have been fine. Nonetheless, I really enjoyed that feud and feel like its one of Cena's best, and maybe even one of HBK's best too. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2014 13:54:32 GMT -5
I liked it but I actually think Summerslam 2005 is the best. I love that one. 2009 was good also.
But as far as 2002 goes, you'd think HBK never skipped a beat. As much as I think Taker is the greatest ever, Shawn Michaels is truly the showstopper
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 16, 2014 11:33:00 GMT -5
Easily the best. We got arguably the greatest SummerSlam match in history (HHH/HBK), and four 4* matches (Angle/Rey, Benoit/RVD, Rock/Brock). Edge/Eddie wasn't bad either, and Taker/Test and the Tag Title matches were no worse than anything we see on Raw. This card holds up great.
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Post by Optimus Prime on Nov 16, 2014 22:45:39 GMT -5
Not just the greatest SummerSlam, but definitely one of the greatest PPV's I've ever seen.
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Post by ellisd on Nov 21, 2014 23:49:43 GMT -5
Its my favorite SummerSlam and possibly my favorite pay per view.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 0:51:32 GMT -5
Easily the best. We got arguably the greatest SummerSlam match in history (HHH/HBK), and four 4* matches (Angle/Rey, Benoit/RVD, Rock/Brock). Edge/Eddie wasn't bad either, and Taker/Test and the Tag Title matches were no worse than anything we see on Raw. This card holds up great. Man the Edge/Guerrero match was badass. I loved that feud. Eddie's frog splash to Edge's injured shoulder still makes me cringe 12 years later. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 22, 2014 8:06:09 GMT -5
Easily the best. We got arguably the greatest SummerSlam match in history (HHH/HBK), and four 4* matches (Angle/Rey, Benoit/RVD, Rock/Brock). Edge/Eddie wasn't bad either, and Taker/Test and the Tag Title matches were no worse than anything we see on Raw. This card holds up great. Man the Edge/Guerrero match was badass. I loved that feud. Eddie's frog splash to Edge's injured shoulder still makes me cringe 12 years later. I loved their feud in 2002 but it always bugged me that edge didn't sell that injured shoulder more. Eddie worked that in every match and then edge would hit a spear with the same shoulder and acted like he was fine. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 8:12:24 GMT -5
Man the Edge/Guerrero match was badass. I loved that feud. Eddie's frog splash to Edge's injured shoulder still makes me cringe 12 years later. I loved their feud in 2002 but it always bugged me that edge didn't sell that injured shoulder more. Eddie worked that in every match and then edge would hit a spear with the same shoulder and acted like he was fine. This is true. No doubt. Also you could tell that Edge didn't give two sh*ts about his own body back in 2002. He had some of the most physical matches that year against some really hardcore guys. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 8:35:01 GMT -5
Bork wun beltz
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Post by Scott! on Nov 22, 2014 9:59:44 GMT -5
It's my number 2 behind Summerslam 2000. I had 2000 on VHS and must have watched it a hundred times, still my number 2 PPV of all time behind WM17.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 16:58:57 GMT -5
It's my number 2 behind Summerslam 2000. I had 2000 on VHS and must have watched it a hundred times, still my number 2 PPV of all time behind WM17. Man have WM18 on VHS and I've watched it so many times the film is fuct during the ut/ flair match. |
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Post by HHH316 on Nov 27, 2014 21:57:38 GMT -5
IMO, yes, 2002 is the best Summerslam of all time. I think from an entertainment standpoint, an argument could be made for 1998. The company was red hot & while the action wasn't as good as 2002, the storylines were great.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 23:12:52 GMT -5
88, 89, 91 were the best to me
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Post by Brad on Dec 1, 2014 17:21:12 GMT -5
1998 sadly doesn't hold up well all these years later, and I am not entirely sure why. It's weird, the Attitude Era was one of the hottest times for the WWE, and yet their SummerSlam and Wrestlemania events weren't anything special. I've watched it fairly recently. The European title match, Oddities/Kaientai (as long as original PPV audio is in tact), the ladder match, the Tag title match, and X-Pac/Jarrett were all wildly entertaining. Austin/Taker was good for what it was and even with Austin knocked loopy it was on par with Austin PPV main events of the time. The mixed tag match sucked ass. Lions Den was a cool novelty match. I like Val Vs. D-Lo also. I never have cared for the match up of Taker Vs Austin |
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