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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 13, 2014 19:33:28 GMT -5
I know a lot of people don't put too much stock into PWI, myself included, but I figured some of you would at least be somewhat interested in it. PWI does the yearly Female 50 just like they release the PWI 500. Well, this year Paige and AJ Lee come in at numbers one and two. Remember, this is about the most successful years in female wrestling, not most talented or anything like that. spam.com/wrestling/paige-aj-lee-top-pwi-female-top-50/
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Post by Mox on Nov 13, 2014 19:37:22 GMT -5
LuFisto is number 5!!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 19:50:57 GMT -5
Decent top 10.
I don't really recall Natalya or Angelina Love doing all that much in recent years.
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Post by punksnotdead on Nov 13, 2014 20:08:27 GMT -5
Love me some Ivellisse Velez.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 20:09:43 GMT -5
Charlotte doesn't deserve to be in the top 10 maybe number 20 or 15 but not the top ten list at all.
Just because she had that ONE good match with natalya that doesn't mean she's all around top diva and the best female wrestler on the roster.Give any diva the same time limit they had and I'm sure you they could pull the same results.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 20:12:23 GMT -5
And also natalya doesn't deserve to be in the top ten either what the hell has she done all year besides that One Match? Brie Bella should've been in the top ten at least.Hell Nikki should've been number 10 and brie number 9.
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Post by Planktung on Nov 13, 2014 20:15:12 GMT -5
Charlotte doesn't deserve to be in the top 10 maybe number 20 or 15 but not the top ten list at all. Just because she had that ONE good match with natalya that doesn't mean she's all around top diva and the best female wrestler on the roster.Give any diva the same time limit they had and I'm sure you they could pull the same results. But this isn't a ranking of talent exactly. So many things go into determining the list, such as W/L records, relevance to their respective promotion, and most importantly, success. Charlotte has been the most successful NXT Diva of the year thus far. The match with Natalya at Take Over only added to her case for being in the top ten.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 20:20:33 GMT -5
Charlotte doesn't deserve to be in the top 10 maybe number 20 or 15 but not the top ten list at all. Just because she had that ONE good match with natalya that doesn't mean she's all around top diva and the best female wrestler on the roster.Give any diva the same time limit they had and I'm sure you they could pull the same results. But this isn't a ranking of talent exactly. So many things go into determining the list, such as W/L records, relevance to their respective promotion, and most importantly, success. Charlotte has been the most successful NXT Diva of the year thus far. The match with Natalya at Take Over only added to her case for being in the top ten. So why isn't the Bellas on the top 10? They had imo a much more successful career this year than Charlotte and Natalya.
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Post by IRS on Nov 13, 2014 20:29:38 GMT -5
But this isn't a ranking of talent exactly. So many things go into determining the list, such as W/L records, relevance to their respective promotion, and most importantly, success. Charlotte has been the most successful NXT Diva of the year thus far. The match with Natalya at Take Over only added to her case for being in the top ten. So why isn't the Bellas on the top 10? They had imo a much more successful career this year than Charlotte and Natalya. ... How?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 20:37:16 GMT -5
And also natalya doesn't deserve to be in the top ten either what the hell has she done all year besides that One Match? Brie Bella should've been in the top ten at least. Hell Nikki should've been number 10 and brie number 9.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 13, 2014 20:38:25 GMT -5
But this isn't a ranking of talent exactly. So many things go into determining the list, such as W/L records, relevance to their respective promotion, and most importantly, success. Charlotte has been the most successful NXT Diva of the year thus far. The match with Natalya at Take Over only added to her case for being in the top ten. So why isn't the Bellas on the top 10? They had imo a much more successful career this year than Charlotte and Natalya. The Bellas haven't really done anything success wise. Charlotte won the NXT Women's Title. The Bellas have won nothing. You could make the argument for a Bella to be ahead of Natalya, but even Natalya made the finals of the NXT Women's Title Tournament.
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Post by Daria on Nov 13, 2014 20:49:39 GMT -5
At least Brie should have been top 10 for the feud with Stephanie
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 20:52:36 GMT -5
So why isn't the Bellas on the top 10? They had imo a much more successful career this year than Charlotte and Natalya. The Bellas haven't really done anything success wise. Charlotte won the NXT Women's Title. The Bellas have won nothing. You could make the argument for a Bella to be ahead of Natalya, but even Natalya made the finals of the NXT Women's Title Tournament. What do you mean the bellas haven't done anything success wise?. Brie vs Stephanie was probably the best diva feud of the year.The Amount of build up too it was amazing they even had segments where they closed raw that's a pretty big deal for a diva because only handful women can do that.And the match itself of course. I understand Charlotte winning the title is good and everything but Why does someone winning a championship belt automatically puts them above someone who hasn't?.Just because natalya made the finials that doesn't really mean she should be in the top ten she hasn't done really anything important all year besides that match with Charlotte.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 20:56:32 GMT -5
So why isn't the Bellas on the top 10? They had imo a much more successful career this year than Charlotte and Natalya. ... How? This list is based off who had the most successful year and I believe the bellas had the most successful year more successful then Natalya imo.Charlottes I'm not so sure.Maybe I'm wrong and maybe Charlotte does deserve to be in the top ten but definitely not natalya.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 13, 2014 20:57:59 GMT -5
The Bellas haven't really done anything success wise. Charlotte won the NXT Women's Title. The Bellas have won nothing. You could make the argument for a Bella to be ahead of Natalya, but even Natalya made the finals of the NXT Women's Title Tournament. What do you mean the bellas haven't done anything success wise?. Brie vs Stephanie was probably the best diva feud of the year.The Amount of build up too it was amazing they even had segments where they closed raw that's a pretty big deal for a diva because only handful women can do that.And the match itself of course. I understand Charlotte winning the title is good and everything but Why does someone winning a championship belt automatically puts them above someone who hasn't?.Just because natalya made the finials that doesn't really mean she should be in the top ten she hasn't done really anything important all year besides that match with Charlotte. I forgot about Brie/Stephanie. I'd put Brie ahead of Natalya for that. But Charlotte belongs ahead of the Bellas for more than just winning the belt. She also has had better matches than the Bellas. The TakeOver match was obviously outstanding, but her match with Bayley was also great and some others. Although, Stephanie was BY FAR the MVP of that whole Stephanie/Brie angle. She could be ahead of all the WWE divas, even for having only one match.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 21:13:25 GMT -5
What do you mean the bellas haven't done anything success wise?. Brie vs Stephanie was probably the best diva feud of the year.The Amount of build up too it was amazing they even had segments where they closed raw that's a pretty big deal for a diva because only handful women can do that.And the match itself of course. I understand Charlotte winning the title is good and everything but Why does someone winning a championship belt automatically puts them above someone who hasn't?.Just because natalya made the finials that doesn't really mean she should be in the top ten she hasn't done really anything important all year besides that match with Charlotte. I forgot about Brie/Stephanie. I'd put Brie ahead of Natalya for that. But Charlotte belongs ahead of the Bellas for more than just winning the belt. She also has had better matches than the Bellas. The TakeOver match was obviously outstanding, but her match with Bayley was also great and some others. Although, Stephanie was BY FAR the MVP of that whole Stephanie/Brie angle. She could be ahead of all the WWE divas, even for having only one match. I agree I think Stephanie was the mvp of that feud.But I think brie held her own just fine.This whole thing was imo to just put the bellas over and it worked. As far as this list,I always felt like these things were always againts the less experience female workers and they Never actually go above the more experienced ones. For an example I remember In 2011 when Kelly Kelly was on cloud 9 she was indeed the TOP diva of that year but when this list came out she was no where in the top 10 yet Beth was who did little to less then what Kelly did.But because she's kelly kelly she would never go over beth.And now it's the same with Bellas well maybe more with Brie Bella not on the top 10 but for some reason natalya is.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 21:17:37 GMT -5
Good for Paige, she actually got me interested in the divas division for the first time in a long time.
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Post by Kanenite on Nov 13, 2014 22:42:07 GMT -5
I don't know what the cut off date is, but maybe the Brie/Stephanie match/angle wasn't included in the time frame.
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Post by A-Rob on Nov 14, 2014 2:10:46 GMT -5
this is actually a good list from PWI also it was a nice surprise to see Courtney Rush at # 8
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Post by King Silva on Nov 14, 2014 7:05:17 GMT -5
I don't know what the cut off date is, but maybe the Brie/Stephanie match/angle wasn't included in the time frame. I am pretty sure it wasn't and it went from June 2013 --> June 2014. So that would mean Brie/Stephanie isn't going to help Brie until next year's PWI Top 50 Women. It also means that Paige beat AJ when AJ was Divas Champion for 295 days of the period under review so imo that is just crazy and I think that AJ should have been # 1 with Paige being # 2 or # 3 (behind Gail). It is really confusing though because PWI has this award for the women but also their annual PWI Woman of the Year (which is awarded at the end of the year). I expect AJ to win that again (it would be her 3rd time claiming that honor) and Paige to get the runner-up spot (or Gail Kim who was the top KO this year).
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