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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 11:11:32 GMT -5
But how small is AJs circle? Wedding news can spread fast. Good point. None of us were there so we can't say much. When AJ Lee and CM Punk got married, the news came out of nowhere to some. Some, yes, but I'm sure AJ had some friends she told in WWE. Very possible one of them told either one of the higher ups, or somebody overheard them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 11:18:40 GMT -5
Very interesting indeed. Thanks for posting.
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Post by shenmue on Nov 28, 2014 11:19:33 GMT -5
CM Punk wanted out of Wrestling and is generally happy not being in it but i believe there is a small part of him that is hoping that what he Has done makes the WWE offer him a RR win and a WM main event in the next 2 or 3 years.
In that interview at one point he talks about trying to "politic" his way in to the WM main event but failed ha, Whether done on purpose or not what he has done the last 11 months could be one massive Politic as WWE loves having a star comeback who hasn't been here for awhile and comebacks and win the Rumble/Main event Mania.
Again i'll finish with i doubt he has done this for that reason, its because he is burnt out, fed up with the system, injuries bla bla, but it could still end up getting him what he truly wanted, and that is a WM main event, if he ever comeback.
You can't tell me that this story doesn't write itself?, if WWE ever wants a massive comeback and WM moment in the next 2 or 3 years they just have to somehow fix their relationship with punk, easier said than done i know.
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Post by marino13 on Nov 28, 2014 11:34:33 GMT -5
James addressed the topic to the fan, saying, "As far as release papers on his wedding day, wasn't his wedding a secret? How did they know it was his wedding day?"That's a very valid point. When Hunter texted him, Punk said that he was getting married in two days and he would call back after the honeymoon, that's how they knew it was his wedding day. James addressed the topic to the fan, saying, "As far as release papers on his wedding day, wasn't his wedding a secret? How did they know it was his wedding day?"That's a very valid point. Whilst I don't actually believe they did it deliberately on his wedding day to spite Punk (although I wouldn't be that shocked if they did), Punk said he was planning for his wedding to HHH on the phone (which was presumably when they decided to fire him). They would have also given AJ time off for the wedding & honeymoon, and I assume a few wrestlers were invited too. It was a secret to the general public, but I'm sure plenty of people in WWE knew when it was. Fair enough. Both are also valid points. Maybe they did know, maybe not. Doubt WWE will (nor should they) ever respond. So we'll never know their side of the story.
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Post by dakis on Nov 28, 2014 11:58:35 GMT -5
Anybody else receiving an error message when trying to download that episode of the podcast?
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Nov 28, 2014 12:42:23 GMT -5
It was an awesome interview. I listened to it all the way through, start to finish, and I really enjoyed it. If he says he's the happiest he's been in years and wanted out, who can blame him?? Let him enjoy his life outside wrestling. Wrestling needs Punk, Punk doesn't need wrestling. Bottom line.
He's made his money and doesn't want to be involved with it anymore. Good for him. I applaud him for leaving. I will always be a fan of CM Punk, no matter what.
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Here's the interview for those that haven't heard it:
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Post by marino13 on Nov 28, 2014 12:46:13 GMT -5
Just rereading over the highlights and I have a few notes & questions:
Maybe if Punk would have taken the concussion test more serious WWE would have too. WWE wanted him to go for further testing. Isn't that a good thing? But he refused, so that's on him.
Punk complained he had a concussion during the Rumble, but was mad at WWE for trying to get him out sooner than planned? Isn't that a good thing?
I doubt Ryback ever intentionally tried to hurt Punk. Mistakes happen especially with someone green like Ryback. The feud was ill advised from the get go. Nobody benefited.
Doctors make misdiagnoses all the time. It's happened to many people I know also. Myself included. Both WWE & Punk are to blame for not getting a second opinion sooner.
Punk said it was Bryan's year, yet still believe Punk himself should have been in the main event. Would Punk had cared if Bryan was in or not if Punk was?
If WWE owed Punk money then I don't blame Punk for "lawyer'ing" up. Especially over the check from the previous year. Wish I could forget to cash a big check!
I didn't really care for Punk vs Taker. It was a great set up finished with a decent match.
I never really noticed Punk was losing so much to part timers. He has a valid point. WWE doesn't benefit from that.
Least we know Punk was suppose to go over at WM xXx.
WWE should have known ahead of time how the Network would have affected the pay scale. That's on them. But didn't we hear it turned out to be a very nice paycheck after all?
Punk's WWE championship reign should have changed at WM. A Triple treat would have been the way to go. We would have benefited the most since the rematch turned out to be pretty stale.
I love Punk but he seems hard to deal with at times. Even Colt seemed to think so.
Punk may not have quit exactly, but walking out without having further tests done isn't the most professional way to do things. Take the tests. Prove it to them. And then take the time off.
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Post by Fave on Nov 28, 2014 13:00:49 GMT -5
I'm glad Ryback fired back. that sh*t. Punk might have a lot of reasons to be pissed, but don't throw a peer under the bus. Edit. You guys see his twitter pic? A nice subtle jab at Punk. And using figs lol. Pretty sure you'd do the same thing if you were forced to work with someone who doesn't know what they're doing. This stuff is supposed to be "fake" so you don't go out there and kick a guy as hard as you can and break his ribs and then not apologize. Then to injure him again... Yeah no. I like Ryback but that's enough reason to call him out.
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Post by The Yes Man on Nov 28, 2014 13:03:26 GMT -5
Just rereading over the highlights and I have a few notes & questions: Maybe if Punk would have taken the concussion test more serious WWE would have too. WWE wanted him to go for further testing. Isn't that a good thing? But he refused, so that's on him. Punk complained he had a concussion during the Rumble, but was mad at WWE for trying to get him out sooner than planned? Isn't that a good thing? I doubt Ryback ever intentionally tried to hurt Punk. Mistakes happen especially with someone green like Ryback. The feud was ill advised from the get go. Nobody benefited. Doctors make misdiagnoses all the time. It's happened to many people I know also. Myself included. Both WWE & Punk are to blame for not getting a second opinion sooner. Punk said it was Bryan's year, yet still believe Punk himself should have been in the main event. Would Punk had cared if Bryan was in or not if Punk was? If WWE owed Punk money then I don't blame Punk for "lawyer'ing" up. Especially over the check from the previous year. Wish I could forget to cash a big check! I didn't really care for Punk vs Taker. It was a great set up finished with a decent match. I never really noticed Punk was losing so much to part timers. He has a valid point. WWE doesn't benefit from that. Least we know Punk was suppose to go over at WM xXx. WWE should have known ahead of time how the Network would have affected the pay scale. That's on them. But didn't we hear it turned out to be a very nice paycheck after all? Punk's WWE championship reign should have changed at WM. A Triple treat would have been the way to go. We would have benefited the most since the rematch turned out to be pretty stale. I love Punk but he seems hard to deal with at times. Even Colt seemed to think so. Punk may not have quit exactly, but walking out without having further tests done isn't the most professional way to do things. Take the tests. Prove it to them. And then take the time off. To be fair, their last test for him to do was running the ropes, after already saying "Yeah, you've probably got a concussion.."
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Post by marino13 on Nov 28, 2014 13:40:53 GMT -5
Just rereading over the highlights and I have a few notes & questions: Maybe if Punk would have taken the concussion test more serious WWE would have too. WWE wanted him to go for further testing. Isn't that a good thing? But he refused, so that's on him. Punk complained he had a concussion during the Rumble, but was mad at WWE for trying to get him out sooner than planned? Isn't that a good thing? I doubt Ryback ever intentionally tried to hurt Punk. Mistakes happen especially with someone green like Ryback. The feud was ill advised from the get go. Nobody benefited. Doctors make misdiagnoses all the time. It's happened to many people I know also. Myself included. Both WWE & Punk are to blame for not getting a second opinion sooner. Punk said it was Bryan's year, yet still believe Punk himself should have been in the main event. Would Punk had cared if Bryan was in or not if Punk was? If WWE owed Punk money then I don't blame Punk for "lawyer'ing" up. Especially over the check from the previous year. Wish I could forget to cash a big check! I didn't really care for Punk vs Taker. It was a great set up finished with a decent match. I never really noticed Punk was losing so much to part timers. He has a valid point. WWE doesn't benefit from that. Least we know Punk was suppose to go over at WM xXx. WWE should have known ahead of time how the Network would have affected the pay scale. That's on them. But didn't we hear it turned out to be a very nice paycheck after all? Punk's WWE championship reign should have changed at WM. A Triple treat would have been the way to go. We would have benefited the most since the rematch turned out to be pretty stale. I love Punk but he seems hard to deal with at times. Even Colt seemed to think so. Punk may not have quit exactly, but walking out without having further tests done isn't the most professional way to do things. Take the tests. Prove it to them. And then take the time off. To be fair, their last test for him to do was running the ropes, after already saying "Yeah, you've probably got a concussion.." Well if that's all it was, then why not just do it? When I was taking tests on my bad back I never told anybody to f' off and admit my back is broken. I did what I had to do whether I wanted to or not and eventually I was diagnosed. There is sometimes protocol that has to be followed before treatment can start.
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Post by Rob on Nov 28, 2014 14:30:21 GMT -5
The guy is a ing genius. He pretty much has turned himself into a mega star by leaving. When he decides to come back, He will be treated like a Brock Lesnar/Rock and get pushed to the moon.
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Post by Cody Rhodes Diva on Nov 28, 2014 14:33:13 GMT -5
I've been reading the article on CM Punk's interview with Colt Cabana and to tell you the truth, CM Punk was right IMO. He says that Vince McMahon only cares about money (example being the John Cena versus The Rock at WrestleMania 29 with the feeling that it could sell more tickets and PPV buys) as well as replacing Chris Hero with Roman Reigns in The Shield (Triple H saw Reigns as a future top star). Your thoughts?
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Post by Tyler Black on Nov 28, 2014 14:42:25 GMT -5
there is a whole 11 page thread you could have put this in...
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Nov 28, 2014 14:43:28 GMT -5
Making inane, worthless threads when threads already exist for that topic is the height of arrogance, ineptitude and/or bad manners. That's my thought.
Did you do it on purpose or are you a...?
Edit: It got merged now.
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Post by AV1 on Nov 28, 2014 14:50:09 GMT -5
One of the parts that bugged me was not really to do with Punk, but with Roman Reigns in the shield. Really annoying that before they had even decided before the Shield debuted he was going to be the breakout star. Now I'm actually a big fan of Roman Reigns but I hate that WWE pick the guy for us, it should be the fans who pick the guy. est example of this is Stone Cold.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 14:51:40 GMT -5
The guy is a ing genius. He pretty much has turned himself into a mega star by leaving. When he decides to come back, He will be treated like a Brock Lesnar/Rock and get pushed to the moon. I would bet we'll see Steve Austin wrestle Hogan before we see Punk back in a WWE ring.
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Post by Word™ on Nov 28, 2014 14:56:16 GMT -5
Ryback is a sh*tty wrestler.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Nov 28, 2014 14:57:14 GMT -5
One of the parts that bugged me was not really to do with Punk, but with Roman Reigns in the shield. Really annoying that before they had even decided before the Shield debuted he was going to be the breakout star. Now I'm actually a big fan of Roman Reigns but I hate that WWE pick the guy for us, it should be the fans who pick the guy. est example of this is Stone Cold. Flipside is The Rock, who was earmarked for success by the WWF before he ever even had a match.
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Post by cripplercrossface on Nov 28, 2014 15:08:59 GMT -5
Listening to the podcast gave me more insight on how WWE is a not very good workplace. Yes, you can get injuries in the ring, but not being medically treated right by a WWE doctor is scary. Hell, CM Punk could have died and Triple H and Mcmahon couldn't give a damn. T The whole premise of WWE is obviously making money and turning a profit; but not giving a crap about the well being of their performers is sick. Maybe they're doing a better job after Punk left with Danial Bryan and Roman Reigns, but it doesn't change what they did with Punk to begin with. He was right to leave his health was in jeopardy. I don't know if I can even watch WWE the same again, or if I'll ever watch it at all. It's just too ed up.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Nov 28, 2014 16:07:19 GMT -5
I already gave most of my opinion earlier in this thread. What a coincidence that CM Punk trashes Ryback as soon as Ryback starts to get a push...trying to kill his momentum with the internet fans??? Every wrestlers goal is to main event mania... why is punk more entitled than others? If Ryback was too rough maybe Punk should of opted for a desk job instead. ..I'd like to see Punk vs vader, dr.death, stiener brothers or any other of the hard hitting tough guys of the past. Imagine the bitching he would of done working in early ecw lol. At least Shawn Michaels helped his "kliq" with his moaning and politics...I'd compare punk to Him, except punk was only out for himself.
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