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Post by RawIsWar on Nov 27, 2014 2:04:34 GMT -5
It's nearly two hours and he opens up about his release. Discuss.
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Post by Colter on Nov 27, 2014 2:10:19 GMT -5
For those that can't listen to it, here's a quick rundown -
"Punk goes on to say that he is very happy now, and that his last days in WWE he was miserable. He calls the creative environment inside WWE as “toxic.” Punk claims Vince McMahon stifled him from being a part of a number of things, such as having sponsors on his ring gear, only to see other superstars such as Brock Lesnar get to participate in such deals. He also claims that as champion, he did all of the same appearances and has made as many “wishes”[Make-A-Wish] as John Cena, but the company never advertised it.
He goes on to say WWE makes their superstars work for terrible pay and little-to-no benefits. The company also makes superstars, including Punk, work hurt and sometimes while suffering from concussions. Punk describes a situation in which he was forced to work while concussed. Punk also describes multiple times, especially with a reckless superstar such as Ryback, that he was pushed into matches fresh off of surgeries and still somewhat injured.
So taking Punk’s words, everything had just been building up over time. This was indeed coming, and everything just blew up the night after the Survivor Series.
It should also be noted that Punk said The Shield was his idea, and they were supposed to be linked with him, like was teased on television. However, plans for that were scrapped."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 2:48:35 GMT -5
Now the stupid "Punk walks out" jokes can stop now that it's open to the world that WWE fired him on his wedding day.
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Post by degausser on Nov 27, 2014 3:09:31 GMT -5
So the shield was his idea and not mercurys? Good to know. Also loved the part about him calling ryback "steroid guy".
wwe treated punk pretty poorly if you ask me. I'm sure all his haters will still complain though.
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Post by RybackV1 on Nov 27, 2014 3:31:24 GMT -5
I'd pay enormous amounts of money to see Ryback vs Punk in a street fight (cue fanboys "well punk would run circles around Ryback and use his mega jujitsu skills " comments)
Regardless. Id love to listen to this. Who's podcast is this ? Any links ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 3:41:31 GMT -5
I'd pay enormous amounts of money to see Ryback vs Punk in a street fight (cue fanboys "well punk would run circles around Ryback and use his mega jujitsu skills " comments) Regardless. Id love to listen to this. Who's podcast is this ? Any links ? Colt Cabana, Art of Wrestling I've tried listening to it on three different places and it won't play past the ten minute mark in or the sites crash due to heavy traffic.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 3:57:53 GMT -5
Someone uploaded it to Youtube.
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Post by rustyy on Nov 27, 2014 3:59:40 GMT -5
Nice to see he's happy, glad to finally know what happened.
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Post by tarver89 on Nov 27, 2014 4:31:50 GMT -5
– Punk said that he never quit WWE, but that he was fired. Punk left WWE in January. A few weeks after that, Vince McMahon informed him via text that he was suspended for two months. After the suspension ended, nobody from WWE ever contacted him. Punk eventually reached out to WWE about royalties he felt were owed to him, and said WWE gave him the run-around before eventually sending him termination papers. The papers aid he was fired due to breaching his contract on his wedding day, so he was officially fired in June 2014. WWE decided to use his wedding in June 2014 as the reason for the breach, not his hiatus in January. Punk said WWE had taken things “too ing far.” – Regarding why he left WWE in January, he said it was due to his health. Punk said that during his final months in WWE, he worked with broken ribs, a concussion, and injured knees. Punk said he felt so sick during WWE’s November 2013 European tour that he was throwing up and dry heaving after every match he worked. Punk said WWE doctors kept giving him antibiotics and said they caused him to literally poop himself in the ring during a match he worked on Smackdown. Punk said it was the most sick he had ever felt in his life. – Punk said he suffered a concussion during his match at the Royal Rumble but continued to work it anyway. He passed WWE’s concussion test the next day, saying that was “bullcrap.” Punk told WWE to just admit he had a concussion, but they wanted him to do more tests. Punk said he told WWE to help him and finally went to Vince McMahon and Triple H directly, telling them he’s going home. – Punk went off on Triple H, saying he ruined his momentum in 2011 and that he told Vince McMahon that Triple H was stifling his creativity. He also said he told Vince that they were screwing up by not putting Daniel Bryan in the WrestleMania main event and that they were going to pass him by. – Punk went off on a WWE doctor named Chris Amann. Punk says he found a lump on his back, which Amann said was just a fat deposit. Punk asked Amann to cut it out several times but Amann refused. The lump got bigger and turned purple and painful. Punk told Amann again before the Royal Rumble to cut it out, but Amann refused, saying Punk had to wrestle. After the match, Punk again told him to cut it out but Amann said if he did, he’d have to put Punk on antibiotics. After Punk left, he went to another doctor that AJ Lee found for him, and that doctor diagnosed the lump as a MERSA staph infection and immediately drained puss out of it. Punk said the doctor was stunned that he had been wrestling with the infection for months, and said Punk “should be dead.” Punk blasted WWE for misdiagnosing and ignoring his infection which he worked with for months. – Punk blasted WWE for bringing him back so soon after injuries, saying WWE told him after multiple surgeries that he was being brought back right away. – Punk said his WWE career was a failure since he never headlined WrestleMania. Punk said Vince McMahon was an “out of touch old man” and that he’d constantly hear how he wasn’t a draw, but that he’d always shove that down everyone’s throats. Punk said he worked the best match at WrestleMania 29 but knew he didn’t get as much money as John Cena, The Rock, Triple H, Undertaker, and Brock Lesnar got. – Punk said he never held WWE up for money and did not walk out in the middle of a storyline, saying he left after being chokeslammed by Kane. He said he was frustrated by getting less and less money but that he went home due to his health and sanity. He also said he asked how WWE’s pay scale would change with the WWE Network but nobody ever would give him any answers. – Punk said he hired a “vicious” lawyer to go after WWE, and got everything he wanted “and more.” He said he can’t talk about the specifics of the settlement, but that he got everything he wanted. He said WWE was scared that Punk would go to court over the independent contractor issue and ruin their way of business. – Punk said he will never, ever have a working relationship with WWE again. – Punk attacked WWE’s independent contractor setup and said if they really cared about the well-being of the wrestlers, they’d let the wrestlers form a union like the player unions in the NFL, NBA, etc. He said WWE’s concussion tests, for example, are self-serving and not in the interest of the wrestlers. – Punk said he was supposed to star in 12 Rounds 2 but that when he told Triple H that the movie’s shooting dates overlapped with WWE’s European tour, Triple H announced the next day that Randy Orton would star in the movie. – Punk said Triple H thinks he is a “piece of crap.” – Punk called Ryback a “steroid guy” and said that wrestling him took 20 years off his life, resulted in broken ribs, and other injuries. – Punk said WWE was worried he’d go to TNA, but that his lawyer told WWE that Punk despised wrestling now and would never wrestle again.
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Post by Rob on Nov 27, 2014 4:40:43 GMT -5
After listening to this, It all makes sense why he left.
And a good reason why Ryback got turned into a jobber.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 5:04:42 GMT -5
I'd pay enormous amounts of money to see Ryback vs Punk in a street fight (cue fanboys "well punk would run circles around Ryback and use his mega jujitsu skills " comments) Regardless. Id love to listen to this. Who's podcast is this ? Any links ? It's funny you mention this, given Punk crapped on Ryback for being "very hurty" and an unsafe worker during the interview. He stated he was often deliberate as well as "a real piece of work."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 6:15:59 GMT -5
I'm going to listen to this tomorrow night but i'm excited to hear this interview.
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Post by Planktung on Nov 27, 2014 6:34:49 GMT -5
Listened to some of it briefly just now. Thought these were some interesting points about random creative stuff from 2012.
- If Punk did not turn heel during his 434 day reign as WWE Champion, he would have dropped the title to Daniel Bryan, who then would have dropped it to Rock. - A stable was pitched with Punk, Show, Bryan and someone from FCW. It wasn't clear who that would have been, but Seth Rollins was the only name ever mentioned. - Punk claimed that The Shield was his idea and it was supposed to be his stable. He wanted Rollins, Ambrose and Ohno, who was shot down by Hunter. Punk agreed to Leakee (Roman) being in the group so that he could learn under him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 6:37:48 GMT -5
This podcast made me realise how much I miss CM Punk being involved in wrestling. I haven't been the biggest fan of him for the past 8 months but haven't been bashing him as the full story wasn't revealed, only pot shots from WWE over the months. Now that I've seen and heard the full story from Punk's mouth, I now won't hold anything against him. I hope he gets involved in wrestling in some form or shape again over the years. He was a great talent but him being banged up affected his performance later in his career.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 7:36:39 GMT -5
Punk'll be back eventually.
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Post by JTG on Nov 27, 2014 7:42:28 GMT -5
It's really too bad to hear the reasons why he left. Punk became one of my favourite wrestlers in WWE and it's a total shame that his passion for the industry died there. I disagree with him saying his run in WWE was a failure. He was definitely misused at times, but he was also a part of many great and memorable moments during his run.
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Post by Himmy! on Nov 27, 2014 8:06:36 GMT -5
I listened to it. Some very interesting stuff. Love Punk as a performer. But he is a prick too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 8:23:02 GMT -5
No surprises that he despises wrestling now...
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Nov 27, 2014 8:34:25 GMT -5
CM Punk can bitch and moan that he never got to headline WrestleMania. He should realize that timing was clearly not on his side. When you factor in The Rock for WrestleMania's XXVII to XXIX, everybody knew The Rock had to be involved in the match that closes the show. If The Rock wasn't involved in those three WrestleMania's, the buyrates would have been much lower.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 8:38:36 GMT -5
CM Punk can bitch and moan that he never got to headline WrestleMania. He should realize that timing was clearly not on his side. When you factor in The Rock for WrestleMania's XXVII to XXIX, everybody knew The Rock had to be involved in the match that closes the show. If The Rock wasn't involved in those three WrestleMania's, the buyrates would have been much lower. They still could've done Punk v Rock v Cena. That way Rock is in the Main Event as is Punk & Cena avenges his loss to Rocky from the year before, everyone's a winner.
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