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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Nov 28, 2014 0:24:53 GMT -5
I will say that CM Punk should put all of the blame on himself. He decided to breach his contract and the WWE had every right to terminate his contract. When the talents sign on the dotted line, they signup for the tasks that goes in accordance to their job description. CM Punk can bitch and moan but he got more chances than what most received. CM Punk destroyed what he had left of his legacy. I bet he is jealous that Daniel Bryan did something he couldn't do. Yeah, this is crap. I don't even like Punk but he was completely mistreated by WWE. There is no denying that CM Punk was in fact, mistreated by the WWE. The evidence is wide open. It stems back when CM Punk was in OVW. I am willing to bet the WWE signed Punk in 2005 to generate buzz. Think of it like this, CM Punk was an outcast who the machine couldn't give two-****s about. To bitch and moan is such in poor taste.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Nov 28, 2014 0:26:37 GMT -5
This right here: “The day of my wedding, I got a FedEx in the mail and it was my termination papers,” Punk said. “I was fired. On my wedding day. Very calculated and very deliberate. And as much as I kind of chuckled at it and didn’t let it affect my day, I was like once again you pushed too f***** far. You pushed the wrong guy.” - CM Punk Is a strong contender for being the reason AJ stopped giving a sh*t.. She was getting ready to marry the man of her dreams, and the company she works for pulled some extremely large bull crap like this? If I worked for WWE, and they did that to someone I'm married to, I'd ing hate them aswell. They tried to ruin his wedding day, but a wedding day (as we all know) is the girls dream day.. That probably bothered her waay more than it bothered him. I will say that CM Punk should put all of the blame on himself. He decided to breach his contract and the WWE had every right to terminate his contract. When the talents sign on the dotted line, they signup for the tasks that goes in accordance to their job description. CM Punk can bitch and moan but he got more chances than what most received. CM Punk destroyed what he had left of his legacy. I bet he is jealous that Daniel Bryan did something he couldn't do. They had every right to fire him but to do it on his wedding day when the girl he's marrying is employed by the company is really a dirty, scumbag move. It was obviously done intentionally and more to piss off AJ than it was to piss off Punk. How did he destroy what was left of his legacy? He's earned more respect from this interview than anything he was booked in over the last year he was with the company going through the motions just collecting a paycheck. And if you listened to the interview, he flat out said the company was just stupid by not pushing Bryan when he was white hot. You clearly don't like Punk, which is fine. But you cannot honestly believe he was given the same opportunities as Cena. He basically confirmed that his entire title reign and heel turn was done as nothing more than to give The Rock steam heading into his rematch with Cena.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 0:27:21 GMT -5
Yeah, this is crap. I don't even like Punk but he was completely mistreated by WWE. There is no denying that CM Punk was in fact, mistreated by the WWE. The evidence is wide open. It stems back when CM Punk was in OVW. I am willing to bet the WWE signed Punk in 2005 to generate buzz. Think of it like this, CM Punk was an outcast who the machine couldn't give two-****s about. To bitch and moan is such in poor taste. So somebody tries to make you wrestle with something that can kill you, you wouldn't be bitter? If they put you in the ring with by far the worst worker for months on end? It's not like he doesn't have a legit gripe. You can look out for an employee's health even if you don't care.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 0:27:31 GMT -5
Smarks when Punk left "F*ck you quitter! You are sh*t!" *Posts on reddit and other sites slandering him talking sh*t about him Podcast comes out. "Oh yeah, Punk was smart to leave. Punk is the best! WWE never treats him good" That is why I hate internet smarks thinking they know whats right about wrestling. I supported his decision to leave ever since it happened. It sucks that we will never see him in WWE again, but at least he's happy. I'm with you. I didn't like that he was gone and walked out, but I respected it because I knew there had to be a reason. Turns out there were many reasons. I'm glad he's off being happy with his life.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Nov 28, 2014 0:34:18 GMT -5
I don't understand how people can still say he "breached his contract?" If what he said is true - he left and VINCE MCMAHON SHOOK HIS HAND. "Retiring" as an independent contractor is not breaching your contract. Then, they announce he's suspended? He could not go back to work if he tried. Then, when his suspension was up, they won't answer his calls. Then, he's fired. This, of course, is if everything he says is true. Which, for the most part I believe. I don't know why he drags Ryback through the mud - that's the only thing where the bitterness really shines through. He could have left his name out of it, but I get it, it adds more detail to the story. That's about the only thing I can complain about on his side of things. The WWE doctor sounds like a dolt, the creative process is just as ed as all of us think it is from the outside, and the wrestlers are treated like shit. We didn't learn much we didn't know already. I'm not gonna stop watching because a wrestler I liked had a bad experience, and I'm not gonna stop liking Punk because he's bitter after leaving a negative experience. Such is life. Sucks the way it shaked out. Doubt he ever comes back at this point though.
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Post by ✖ AJ on Nov 28, 2014 0:35:33 GMT -5
Tell me right now: Either you did it on purpose or you're dumb as ! - I'm dumb as .
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Nov 28, 2014 0:37:53 GMT -5
ThugSuperstar, most large corporations tend to do some unethical things to their employees. The WWE is no exception to this. Why is this news here, I have no clue. Did I specifically state I am anti-CM Punk? I don't recall saying that. Punk destroyed his legacy be showing to his fans that he is a quitter. As far as Daniel Bryan is concerned, the WWE did a slow build to him for WrestleMania XXX. I said it back then, the WWE wanted a slow build and chase. When he finally captured the gold, the fans had something positive to go home to. It was merely old-school booking at its finest. @kidxlolz, it was up to CM Punk to tell WWE officials about his health. Seems there was a severe lack of communication in that field.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Nov 28, 2014 0:41:50 GMT -5
ThugSuperstar, most large corporations tend to do some unethical things to their employees. The WWE is no exception to this. Why is this news here, I have no clue. Did I specifically state I am anti-CM Punk? I don't recall saying that. Punk destroyed his legacy be showing to his fans that he is a quitter. As far as Daniel Bryan is concerned, the WWE did a slow build to him for WrestleMania XXX. I said it back then, the WWE wanted a slow build and chase. When he finally captured the gold, the fans had something positive to go home to. It was merely old-school booking at its finest. If you honestly think WWE's plan all along was for Bryan to win the title at Mania, you are seriously dense and drinking WWE's Kool Aid. He and Sheamus were going to fight a meaningless, midcard match. Punk/HHH was the plan. Orton/Batista was the plan. The reason plans changed was because Punk left, Batista was not over and didn't want to be a face, and the crowd was letting them hear it every show.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 0:42:10 GMT -5
ThugSuperstar, most large corporations tend to do some unethical things to their employees. The WWE is no exception to this. Why is this news here, I have no clue. Did I specifically state I am anti-CM Punk? I don't recall saying that. Punk destroyed his legacy be showing to his fans that he is a quitter. As far as Daniel Bryan is concerned, the WWE did a slow build to him for WrestleMania XXX. I said it back then, the WWE wanted a slow build and chase. When he finally captured the gold, the fans had something positive to go home to. It was merely old-school booking at its finest. @kidxlolz, it was up to CM Punk to tell WWE officials about his health. Seems there was a severe lack of communication in that field. No, any trained doctor will know what MRSA is. No miscommunication, just mental retardation.
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Post by 5D's on Nov 28, 2014 0:49:08 GMT -5
I will say that CM Punk should put all of the blame on himself. He decided to breach his contract and the WWE had every right to terminate his contract. When the talents sign on the dotted line, they signup for the tasks that goes in accordance to their job description. CM Punk can bitch and moan but he got more chances than what most received. CM Punk destroyed what he had left of his legacy. I bet he is jealous that Daniel Bryan did something he couldn't do. They had every right to fire him but to do it on his wedding day when the girl he's marrying is employed by the company is really a dirty, scumbag move. It was obviously done intentionally and more to piss off AJ than it was to piss off Punk. How did he destroy what was left of his legacy? He's earned more respect from this interview than anything he was booked in over the last year he was with the company going through the motions just collecting a paycheck. And if you listened to the interview, he flat out said the company was just stupid by not pushing Bryan when he was white hot. You clearly don't like Punk, which is fine. But you cannot honestly believe he was given the same opportunities as Cena. He basically confirmed that his entire title reign and heel turn was done as nothing more than to give The Rock steam heading into his rematch with Cena. I'm pretty sure it wasn't deliberate. -HHH called Punk on the 11th to (probably) tell him either he needs to come back or he's getting cut. -10+ people (McIntyre, Hawkins, Bourne, etc) were released on the 12th. -Since Punk didn't want to talk ahead of time, the notice arrived on the 13th. That being said, Punk will always be one of my all time favorites.
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Post by BCizzle on Nov 28, 2014 0:52:43 GMT -5
The IWC needs to come to terms that Cena/Rock was always the planned main event for WM29, going as far back as WM27 when Rock first returned. The whole point of Cena loosing the year before to Rock was to set up the rematch. That was the storyline. Punk didn't fit in and in a way was a long transitional champ until Rock returned in January. Fighting Taker was the logical choice for WM29. Well, they wanted WM30 to be Batista vs Orton, and that would have sucked, and the fans had to complain endlessly to get the guy they wanted in the main event at WM30. And who wanted Cena and Rock again at WM29? Felt like the fans didn't. Seem like nobody did except the WWE brass. Punk is a grump who grumbles too much, and he did caught in the wrong place/wrong time with the WM29 card, but the WWE could have used him better. He has a lot of complains, and some/most of them are valid.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Nov 28, 2014 0:53:44 GMT -5
Sounds like the delusional ranting of a bitter and self loathing individual. No one can ever take away how skilled he was inside the ring and gifted on the mic. But he is delusional to say some of the things he did. He can claim he was "fired" and its possible that he actually was. But dont act like it had nothing to do with you WALKING out of the company. You walked out....you were fired. Quit/fired...who cares. YOU walked out. YOU were fired. End of story. But nice try at twisting the truth.
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Post by tripleh23 on Nov 28, 2014 0:57:53 GMT -5
I loved this podcast I have always loved Punk, I was at Raw in Cleveland and was really surprised when he wasn't on the show, but have still loved him since and am glad to have some answers on why he left. I believe there is a WWE story to this too although I believe most of what he says and 100% agree on HHH crushing his 2011 momentum and I was always annoyed by that.
This makes me want to go back and see his injury spots as some of them I don't remember like Ryback missing the table and the Kofi kick to his head in the Royal Rumble.
I hope him will be back someday but I truthfully can't see. Him and Triple H don't get along and complaining about the doctors is sure to not make the company happy, seeing as they've already released a statement on the strength of the company doctor's and safety protocol.
Also, for those commenting he got his reign I agree that it was a super impressive feat and it was a rare thing to see and he should be proud, but am I the only one who doesn't remember a lot of meaningful feuds he had while holding the belt? I mean I watched Raw every week but the quality of the reign seemed pretty weak to me in terms of opponents and feuds, the # is still impressive though.
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Post by BCizzle on Nov 28, 2014 1:01:00 GMT -5
My opinion is still the same. Selfishly I miss him on my TV but I'm happy he's happy. C'mon, do you really think CM Punk, one of the crabbiest guys ever in pro wrestling, is actually happy? I don't blame him for getting sick of the WWE politics and shabby treatment at all. But if there ever was a guy who wasn't gonna find his smile, it's Punk.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Nov 28, 2014 1:01:53 GMT -5
How many years in a row did he say he stole the show at WrestleMania? Because apart from Mania 29, I don't recall that he ever did -- and really, he only did it then because the other two top matches sucked a bit more than his. At 27 and 28, he couldn't touch the Undertaker vs HHH matches. At 25 and 26, his matches were nowhere near Undertaker vs Michaels. At 24, Money in the Bank had nothing on Michaels vs Flair and Undertaker vs Edge. Essentially, if his complaint about wanting to work with guys better than him at Mania and improve his stock was how he really felt, then he really shouldn't have been upset about fighting Undertaker... The guy who had outperformed him at every single WrestleMania since Punk's first one.
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Post by HVMMONS on Nov 28, 2014 1:07:41 GMT -5
I've always been a Punk fan, and I always will. For the majority since his department, I've kept quiet while I've seen so many of you complain, and now you jump back on the bandwagon because Punk finally opened his mouth. It's so annoying. I support CM Punk and I agree with him all the way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 1:08:17 GMT -5
Sounds like the delusional ranting of a bitter and self loathing individual. No one can ever take away how skilled he was inside the ring and gifted on the mic. But he is delusional to say some of the things he did. He can claim he was "fired" and its possible that he actually was. But dont act like it had nothing to do with you WALKING out of the company. You walked out....you were fired. Quit/fired...who cares. YOU walked out. YOU were fired. End of story. But nice try at twisting the truth. Who's to say his story ISN'T the truth?
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Post by Word™ on Nov 28, 2014 1:12:01 GMT -5
This right here: “The day of my wedding, I got a FedEx in the mail and it was my termination papers,” Punk said. “I was fired. On my wedding day. Very calculated and very deliberate. And as much as I kind of chuckled at it and didn’t let it affect my day, I was like once again you pushed too f***** far. You pushed the wrong guy.” - CM Punk Is a strong contender for being the reason AJ stopped giving a sh*t.. She was getting ready to marry the man of her dreams, and the company she works for pulled some extremely large bull crap like this? If I worked for WWE, and they did that to someone I'm married to, I'd ing hate them aswell. They tried to ruin his wedding day, but a wedding day (as we all know) is the girls dream day.. That probably bothered her waay more than it bothered him. I will say that CM Punk should put all of the blame on himself. He decided to breach his contract and the WWE had every right to terminate his contract. When the talents sign on the dotted line, they signup for the tasks that goes in accordance to their job description. CM Punk can bitch and moan but he got more chances than what most received. CM Punk destroyed what he had left of his legacy. I bet he is jealous that Daniel Bryan did something he couldn't do. That's not what I'm talking about.. I'm talking about the delivery of his termination from his contract on his wedding day.. FedEx had something to be express delivered to him and to specifically arrive on his wedding day.. I believe 100% that was a calculated and deliberate " you" to Punk from WWE. Was my point.
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Post by The Real Valbroski on Nov 28, 2014 1:16:36 GMT -5
My opinion is still the same. Selfishly I miss him on my TV but I'm happy he's happy. C'mon, do you really think CM Punk, one of the crabbiest guys ever in pro wrestling, is actually happy? I don't blame him for getting sick of the WWE politics and shabby treatment at all. But if there ever was a guy who wasn't gonna find his smile, it's Punk. You said it yourself- the crabbiest guy ever in pro wrestling. Now he's not in pro wrestling, so yes I do believe he's happy. I mean I don't know him personally so I could be wrong but when I see videos of him doing things he's actually passionate about(excluding wrestling) he seems like he couldn't be happier.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Nov 28, 2014 1:20:46 GMT -5
I don't understand how people can still say he "breached his contract?" If what he said is true - he left and VINCE MCMAHON SHOOK HIS HAND. "Retiring" as an independent contractor is not breaching your contract. Then, they announce he's suspended? He could not go back to work if he tried. Then, when his suspension was up, they won't answer his calls. Then, he's fired. This, of course, is if everything he says is true. Which, for the most part I believe. I don't know why he drags Ryback through the mud - that's the only thing where the bitterness really shines through. He could have left his name out of it, but I get it, it adds more detail to the story. That's about the only thing I can complain about on his side of things. The WWE doctor sounds like a dolt, the creative process is just as ed as all of us think it is from the outside, and the wrestlers are treated like crap. We didn't learn much we didn't know already. I'm not gonna stop watching because a wrestler I liked had a bad experience, and I'm not gonna stop liking Punk because he's bitter after leaving a negative experience. Such is life. Sucks the way it shaked out. Doubt he ever comes back at this point though. Actually, Vince hugged him.
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