Austin/McMahon Podcast Thread

In my opinion no not at all. He still understands business and psychology. He said something in the podcast that really opened my eyes. Vince will never give us the full thing. He's always going to keep something in his back pocket, because like he said, if he was to give us everything all at once, where do we go from there? I feel like todays wrestling Fan wouldn't be happy, unless raw had sting, brock, ziggler winning, ambrose winning, Cesaro getting a push. cena getting squashed. wyatt winning etc. You can't get everything at once, and I don't think all wrestling fans get that.

This is the guy that gave us a grown man in a bunny suit. Hump an other grown man that wears eyeliner. But he hasn't lost touch really.

I disagree with him whole heartedly in his belief that guys like Lesnar and Sting should be "special attractions" and that using them too often would make them seem less special. I think it does the opposite. Instead of making THEM seem special, it makes the shows WITHOUT THEM get exposed for how weak those shows really are.

And for him to sit there and justify not having the WWE Champion on regular WWE programming is deplorable. He actually sat there and said "it's not about the title".....so he completely devalued the WWE Title by trying to insinuate that WWE programming was just as meaningful WITH or WITHOUT the WWE Title.

Like Austin said, in his day, whoever had the power had the belt and whoever had the belt had the power, it was as simple as that. If you had that belt, it meant you were the top guy, the top draw, and you lead the charge and set the tone as the face of the company.

Now, Vince McMahon expects people to pay top dollar for events, PPV's, Network subscriptions, and to sit through hours and hours of television without a WWE Champion? What exactly are these guys fighting for? Like has always been said by guys like Austin, if you aren't here to be WWE Champion, you should quit and go do something else. They've got Rollins running around with this briefcase that he can't cash in....it's so pointless.

I'll never talk sh*t about a John Cena title run again....at least that man is there every week, wrestling every week, and he's a work horse. Punk was a work horse. Randy Orton was a work horse. Brock Lesnar just isn't even there. And it's not Brock's fault. WWE knew damn well what his contract situation was and they put the belt on him anyway.

And now with this "you can cancel WWE Network at anytime!" situation....people are just going to subscribe for PPV's that have title matches or part timers wrestling, and then they will cancel until another show peaks their interest. They need a WWE Champion who is going to be on the show every week and on every PPV to get people to subscribe to see PPV's like TLC.

Vince seems not to think so, but one man being there really CAN make a difference. Besides Sting and Dolph Ziggler's incredible performance...how BAD would Survivor Series have been? But Ziggler and Sting made that a PPV that at the end of the day, was actually worth watching. If not for Sting and Ziggler, before that main event, people were calling it once of the worst booked and most sloppy PPV's of all time.

But Vince McMahon apparently thinks if he gives us good TV too often that we will get spoiled and it will become less special. Tell that to guys like Austin, Rock, Undertaker, Foley, and Triple H who busted their ass wrestling at every show, house shows, bleeding every week and having Title matches on free TV for years. It's what won him the Monday Night War.

Vince McMahon actually claims that he has MORE competition NOW than he did when WCW and ECW were around because now he competes with EVERYTHING on TV and EVERYTHING on the internet. So wouldn't that mean he should do his very best to put on the best possible shows?

To me, WWE PPV's without WWE Title matches is the most idiotic thing EVER. The Title is as unimportant now than at any point it has ever been in the history of WWE. The Title meant more when Miz was Champion. At least MIz was there, Miz was wrestling, he defended it on RAW, he defended on every PPV. This whole idea to have Brock Lesnar be a special attraction in an attempt to drum up ratings and subscriptions is useless if he's not there. But like I said, WWE knew exactly what was going to happen when they signed him to this contract.

I can't wait until Brock Lesnar is no longer WWE Champion. Nothing against Brock, I think he's a great wrestler, but I as a paying fan and a WWE Network subscriber deserve to see the WWE Champion more than once every 4 months. Simple as that. I was more than happy to have guys like Brock, Taker, Triple H, Rock, Jericho, and others come and go as they please....because in a way it does keep them fresh....but not when the WWE Title is concerned. If you are the Champ, you need to be there. Vince saying that it would not be special and that it's "not about the Title" is just foolish and he's trying to justify the bad situation that he created.

Except Vince was right. Cesaro doesn't have "it"

Cesaro's lack of a push has everything to do with Cesaro's lack of personality and charisma.

His lack of push is a result of him getting over when he wasn't meant to and WWE shut him down.

On what planet? For most of his run with the Real Americans, he was getting what were among the loudest pops of the night if he even teased the Cesaro Swing. Some nights, he was getting the loudest pop of the night.

On Earth.