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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 10:28:25 GMT -5
I'm laughing at the people who think Bryan could "believably" beat Brock being as Brock beat the #1 star in WWE, who Vince happens to love, John Cena in the most lopsided title match in a very very long time.
They let their golden boy get decimated by Brock but they'll let a guy they don't think near as much of beat him at Wrestlemania?
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Post by RybackV1 on Dec 31, 2014 10:33:56 GMT -5
I'm laughing at the people who think Bryan could "believably" beat Brock being as Brock beat the #1 star in WWE, who Vince happens to love, John Cena in the most lopsided title match in a very very long time. They let their golden boy get decimated by Brock but they'll let a guy they don't think near as much of beat him at Wrestlemania? Last time we saw Bryan vs Cena. . What happened again? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 10:36:51 GMT -5
I'm laughing at the people who think Bryan could "believably" beat Brock being as Brock beat the #1 star in WWE, who Vince happens to love, John Cena in the most lopsided title match in a very very long time. They let their golden boy get decimated by Brock but they'll let a guy they don't think near as much of beat him at Wrestlemania? Last time we saw Bryan vs Cena. . What happened again? Daniel Bryan beat Cena. In no way was it one sided. Cena also was out of action afterwards for a couple of months due to injury. So he had to drop the belt. What happened when Brock has faced Cena? Do you recall SummerSlam 2014? Okay. |
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Post by Angusdacat on Dec 31, 2014 10:42:26 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan beat Triple H and John Cena clean in the past year in a half, aka the only two guys who have beaten Lesnar clean since Lesnar has returned. And the whole "Lesnar dominated Cena at Summerslam" thing is irrelevant now because at NOC Cena was presented as Lesnar's equal.
People who don't think Bryan can be presented as the guy to beat Lesnar just don't want Bryan in the main event. It's as simple as that.
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Post by dod0411 on Dec 31, 2014 10:43:29 GMT -5
Soo now that Bryan is back....I'm officially done watching wwe raw and ppvs.  Lol. |
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Post by The Yes Man on Dec 31, 2014 10:46:24 GMT -5
Roman has been wrestling for 4 years and had 1 surgery. Daniel Bryan has been wrestling for 15 years and had 1 surgery. Yet somehow, Daniel Bryan is some injury prone guy that gets hurt all the time. Realistically, nobody in WWE History could beat up Brock Lesnar in a real fight. Not even Andre The Giant. Kayfabe wise though, last year at WrestleMania Daniel Bryan took ten times the damage that Undertaker did. He got his ass broken harder than John Cena did at SummerSlam. And he still won his match in the most emotional moments in years. So kayfabe wise why couldn't he beat Brock Lesnar? Have him catch Brock Leanar in a Yes Lock that he can't get out of. Have him kick Brock in the head a hundred times. Running Knee him over and over again. He has a moveset that could realistically beat Brock Lesnar. You wanna tell me that a jumping punch and a  ing tackle is a more realistic way to beat Brock Lesnar? I bet guys like Shamrock, Blackman and Severn could deck Brock. Possibly even guys like Rude, Dr Death and Bart Gunn. Shamrock and Severn, maybe. Blackman might get a few good shots in before being annihilated. Rude might be bar tough, but it's totally different than fighting somebody who's trained to break you in half. Bart Gunn got creamed in seconds by Butterbean, and Dr. Death got best by Bart. Neither of them would stand a chance. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 10:51:10 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan beat Triple H and John Cena clean in the past year in a half, aka the only two guys who have beaten Lesnar clean since Lesnar has returned. And the whole "Lesnar dominated Cena at Summerslam" thing is irrelevant now because at NOC Cena was presented as Lesnar's equal. People who don't think Bryan can be presented as the guy to beat Lesnar just don't want Bryan in the main event. It's as simple as that. Or maybe it's as simple as you're wrong. I like Bryan. But I don't want to see him face Lesnar. One reason being, a few weeks ago and up til even Monday, not many people knew if he'd even wrestle ever again. Two, if Brock is going back to UFC, he needs to lose to the star of the next ten years. And if his neck has anything to do with it, that star won't be Daniel Bryan. It's a pretty simple concept to grasp. They need to make a star whether it be Ambrose, Rollins or Reigns. Bryan had his moment last year and was gone in a month. By the way, doesn't he have to tone down his wrestling style? Actually, the simple way to look at it is Bryan fans want him to beat Lesnar at Wrestlemania. Realists see that as a mistake. One wrong F5 and he could be having the numb arm again. You don't take that risk at Wrestlemania when you've got a few guys who you can feel more comfortable in the situation of them beating Lesnar. Fans might not like it, but they'll keep watching and buying tickets whether Bryan wins or not. |
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Post by Angusdacat on Dec 31, 2014 11:10:48 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan beat Triple H and John Cena clean in the past year in a half, aka the only two guys who have beaten Lesnar clean since Lesnar has returned. And the whole "Lesnar dominated Cena at Summerslam" thing is irrelevant now because at NOC Cena was presented as Lesnar's equal. People who don't think Bryan can be presented as the guy to beat Lesnar just don't want Bryan in the main event. It's as simple as that. Or maybe it's as simple as you're wrong. I like Bryan. But I don't want to see him face Lesnar. One reason being, a few weeks ago and up til even Monday, not many people knew if he'd even wrestle ever again. Two, if Brock is going back to UFC, he needs to lose to the star of the next ten years. And if his neck has anything to do with it, that star won't be Daniel Bryan. It's a pretty simple concept to grasp. They need to make a star whether it be Ambrose, Rollins or Reigns. Bryan had his moment last year and was gone in a month. By the way, doesn't he have to tone down his wrestling style? Actually, the simple way to look at it is Bryan fans want him to beat Lesnar at Wrestlemania. Realists see that as a mistake. One wrong F5 and he could be having the numb arm again. You don't take that risk at Wrestlemania when you've got a few guys who you can feel more comfortable in the situation of them beating Lesnar. Fans might not like it, but they'll keep watching and buying tickets whether Bryan wins or not. Bryan's health is a different issue and right now NO one on this forum can say they know how Bryan is feeling or how his recovery process has gone in the past few months. Your argument was that Bryan cannot "believably" beat Lesnar because Lesnar beat Cena and that's insane. Bryan is STILL the hottest star in the WWE despite losing so much steam in the past 6 months and if he is truely in the right condition to go again then there is no reason not to capitalize on it while giving Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose more time to grow and be ready to replace him if anything does happen. You want to talk about making a star? If they hot shot Roman Reigns too fast and too forcibly it will affect his career. If they want to preserve "the future" they need to have Bryan take down Lesnar. There's plenty of people that Bryan could put over afterwords anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 11:14:56 GMT -5
Or maybe it's as simple as you're wrong. I like Bryan. But I don't want to see him face Lesnar. One reason being, a few weeks ago and up til even Monday, not many people knew if he'd even wrestle ever again. Two, if Brock is going back to UFC, he needs to lose to the star of the next ten years. And if his neck has anything to do with it, that star won't be Daniel Bryan. It's a pretty simple concept to grasp. They need to make a star whether it be Ambrose, Rollins or Reigns. Bryan had his moment last year and was gone in a month. By the way, doesn't he have to tone down his wrestling style? Actually, the simple way to look at it is Bryan fans want him to beat Lesnar at Wrestlemania. Realists see that as a mistake. One wrong F5 and he could be having the numb arm again. You don't take that risk at Wrestlemania when you've got a few guys who you can feel more comfortable in the situation of them beating Lesnar. Fans might not like it, but they'll keep watching and buying tickets whether Bryan wins or not. Bryan's health is a different issue and right now NO one on this forum can say they know how Bryan is feeling or how his recovery process has gone in the past few months. Your argument was that Bryan cannot "believably" beat Lesnar because Lesnar beat Cena and that's insane. Bryan is STILL the hottest star in the WWE despite losing so much steam in the past 6 months and if he is truely in the right condition to go again then there is no reason not to capitalize on it while giving Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose more time to grow and be ready to replace him if anything does happen. You want to talk about making a star? If they hot shot Roman Reigns too fast and too forcibly it will affect his career. If they want to preserve "the future" they need to have Bryan take down Lesnar. There's plenty of people that Bryan could put over afterwords anyway. I disagree. Simple as that. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 11:18:06 GMT -5
I bet guys like Shamrock, Blackman and Severn could deck Brock. Possibly even guys like Rude, Dr Death and Bart Gunn. Shamrock and Severn, maybe. Blackman might get a few good shots in before being annihilated. Rude might be bar tough, but it's totally different than fighting somebody who's trained to break you in half. Bart Gunn got creamed in seconds by Butterbean, and Dr. Death got best by Bart. Neither of them would stand a chance. What kind of fight are we talkin' here? Because a lot of those are unfair comparisons. Doc only got beat by Bart 'cause Bart had tough man competition experience. Bart only got beat by Butterbean because Bart is NOT a boxer. But Blackman is a Kenpo Black Belt I believe. Lesnar had no technique, he just went into every fight with brute force, anyone who knows who to take a lick and utilizes technique would kick Lesnar's ass. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 11:19:42 GMT -5
I'm laughing at the people who think Bryan could "believably" beat Brock being as Brock beat the #1 star in WWE, who Vince happens to love, John Cena in the most lopsided title match in a very very long time. They let their golden boy get decimated by Brock but they'll let a guy they don't think near as much of beat him at Wrestlemania? Yoko took out Hogan and lost to Bret. Eddie beat Brock. Small guys beat Big Show all the time. Pro wrestling. |
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Post by The Yes Man on Dec 31, 2014 11:21:21 GMT -5
Shamrock and Severn, maybe. Blackman might get a few good shots in before being annihilated. Rude might be bar tough, but it's totally different than fighting somebody who's trained to break you in half. Bart Gunn got creamed in seconds by Butterbean, and Dr. Death got best by Bart. Neither of them would stand a chance. What kind of fight are we talkin' here? Because a lot of those are unfair comparisons. Doc only got beat by Bart 'cause Bart had tough man competition experience. Bart only got beat by Butterbean because Bart is NOT a boxer. But Blackman is a Kenpo Black Belt I believe. Lesnar had no technique, he just went into every fight with brute force, anyone who knows who to take a lick and utilizes technique would kick Lesnar's ass. I'm just going with putting two guys in an empty room and see who doesn't die. I still think if Brock got his hands on any of them he would end them very easily. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 11:28:22 GMT -5
What kind of fight are we talkin' here? Because a lot of those are unfair comparisons. Doc only got beat by Bart 'cause Bart had tough man competition experience. Bart only got beat by Butterbean because Bart is NOT a boxer. But Blackman is a Kenpo Black Belt I believe. Lesnar had no technique, he just went into every fight with brute force, anyone who knows who to take a lick and utilizes technique would kick Lesnar's ass. I'm just going with putting two guys in an empty room and see who doesn't die. I still think if Brock got his hands on any of them he would end them very easily. I dunno. Yeah, Brock is a big, tough, strong son of a bitch, but he lacks any kind of technique outside of "Brock smash". Look at his fight with Velasquez, and with Overeem too. I like Brock, but if you actually watch his UFC fights, he didn't do all that well. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 11:34:04 GMT -5
I'm laughing at the people who think Bryan could "believably" beat Brock being as Brock beat the #1 star in WWE, who Vince happens to love, John Cena in the most lopsided title match in a very very long time. They let their golden boy get decimated by Brock but they'll let a guy they don't think near as much of beat him at Wrestlemania? Yoko took out Hogan and lost to Bret. Eddie beat Brock. Small guys beat Big Show all the time. Pro wrestling. You don't say? It's all how they've booked Brock over the past year. It makes absolutely no sense for Lesnar to destroy Big Show, break the streak, and destroy Cena thus winning the title and making him the biggest monster in the last 10-15 years only to end up losing to a little 5'10" guy who just came off a career threatening injury. WWE won't invest that into Daniel Bryan and I don't blame him. The guy who beats Brock will get a rub ten times over what a rub from Bryan will do if Bryan is the one to beat Brock. I know it's pro wrestling, but how some of you don't get the real logic in this is beyond me. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 12:17:31 GMT -5
Yoko took out Hogan and lost to Bret. Eddie beat Brock. Small guys beat Big Show all the time. Pro wrestling. You don't say? It's all how they've booked Brock over the past year. It makes absolutely no sense for Lesnar to destroy Big Show, break the streak, and destroy Cena thus winning the title and making him the biggest monster in the last 10-15 years only to end up losing to a little 5'10" guy who just came off a career threatening injury. WWE won't invest that into Daniel Bryan and I don't blame him. The guy who beats Brock will get a rub ten times over what a rub from Bryan will do if Bryan is the one to beat Brock. I know it's pro wrestling, but how some of you don't get the real logic in this is beyond me. I actually agree. Not to mention, Bryan is already a star. They need to use this opportunity to make a new one. There's only a few guys I could see giving Brock trouble from a kayfabe standpoint. Bryan isn't one of those guys. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Dec 31, 2014 13:06:55 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan wins the Rumble (to avoid Reigns being boo'd like Batista was last year) and beats Lesnar at WM31.
To put Reigns over, they'll bring back the WHC and have the three former Shield members face each other for it.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Dec 31, 2014 13:16:11 GMT -5
Yoko took out Hogan and lost to Bret. Eddie beat Brock. Small guys beat Big Show all the time. Pro wrestling. You don't say? It's all how they've booked Brock over the past year. It makes absolutely no sense for Lesnar to destroy Big Show, break the streak, and destroy Cena thus winning the title and making him the biggest monster in the last 10-15 years only to end up losing to a little 5'10" guy who just came off a career threatening injury. WWE won't invest that into Daniel Bryan and I don't blame him. The guy who beats Brock will get a rub ten times over what a rub from Bryan will do if Bryan is the one to beat Brock. I know it's pro wrestling, but how some of you don't get the real logic in this is beyond me. If Bryan is healthy, the crowd will boo for whomever wins the Rumble. Bryan is the most over, Lesnar is leaving the company. Having Bryan beat Lesnar would be better than Reigns or Orton beating him. No matter whom Lesnar faces at WM31, he's going to lose. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 13:29:17 GMT -5
You know, I actually hope Reigns does win the Rumble.
Just so he's booed into oblivion.
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Post by Chip on Dec 31, 2014 13:30:15 GMT -5
Eddie Guerrero-
5' 8"
"220" lbs
Daniel Bryan-
5' 10"
"210" lbs
One of the greatest moments in modern wrestling history was Eddie pinning Brock for the WWE Title at No Way Out 2004
so everyone can now STFU about Bryan "not being a threat to Lesnar". That argument is officially closed by Chip.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 13:42:33 GMT -5
Eddie Guerrero- 5' 8" "220" lbs Daniel Bryan- 5' 10" "210" lbs One of the greatest moments in modern wrestling history was Eddie pinning Brock for the WWE Title at No Way Out 2004 so everyone can now STFU about Bryan "not being a threat to Lesnar". That argument is officially closed by Chip. Prior to UFC.. Post UFC... Big difference. People remember him being UFC undisputed heavyweight champion.. So before you say people need to stfu how about you use a little common sense. Oh yeah. Goldberg interfered too |
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