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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 19:38:23 GMT -5
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Post by HHH316 on Jan 15, 2015 19:45:12 GMT -5
Nothing new. They did this last year & were really pissed about WC being right across the street from Axxess. Good for WWE, sucks for the fans.
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Post by BØRNS on Jan 15, 2015 19:50:37 GMT -5
they can try but this ain't gonna fly
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Post by Chip on Jan 15, 2015 20:10:49 GMT -5
to be honest, indy feds shouldn't be using Wrestlemania & the WWE for free promotion
WWE wants people to pay to go to THEIR events...not other feds. This isn't "wrestling celebration weekend" it's WWE Fan AXXess & Wrestlemania.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 15, 2015 20:14:52 GMT -5
to be honest, indy feds shouldn't be using Wrestlemania & the WWE for free promotion WWE wants people to pay to go to THEIR events...not other feds. This isn't "wrestling celebration weekend" it's WWE Fan AXXess & Wrestlemania. You hit the nail on the head. And they say we're all just irrational indy wrestling lovers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 20:48:14 GMT -5
to be honest, indy feds shouldn't be using Wrestlemania & the WWE for free promotion WWE wants people to pay to go to THEIR events...not other feds. This isn't "wrestling celebration weekend" it's WWE Fan AXXess & Wrestlemania. You hit the nail on the head. And they say we're all just irrational indy wrestling lovers. Had to quote both, as I couldn't agree more.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 15, 2015 20:54:18 GMT -5
Makes sense to crack down on it. WWE should limit all wrestling activities in town to stuff they have control over, as much as possible. If parents and kids are in town for WrestleMania and see a poster for some smaller show, and it turns out to be some awful deathmatch thing or has guys swearing at each other, that spoils their trip.
What WWE should do really is have plenty of NXT shows that weekend in the smaller venues. Run two a day, a matinee and an evening show. Hell, maybe even have two different crews -- between the NXT show roster and the ready/half-ready trainees, they've got more than enough guys to be running a couple of venues. Zayn vs Owens headlining one crew. Neville, Itami and Balor on the other crew. Even throw in a main roster guy or two that isn't on the Mania card.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jan 15, 2015 21:05:38 GMT -5
You hit the nail on the head. And they say we're all just irrational indy wrestling lovers. Had to quote both, as I couldn't agree more. I'll continue the quoting cause you're all right. I feel a little bad for the indy promotions that depend on the Wrestlemania week to do shows, but I agree with WWE trying to stop indy promotions from promoting near them. I can see them booking NXT shows on the arenas where the indy promotions would normally go at
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Post by K5 on Jan 15, 2015 21:20:17 GMT -5
I understand wwe's reasoning for wanting this but I disagree with it. They don't own wrestling.
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Post by jakksking1 on Jan 15, 2015 21:36:20 GMT -5
They did a real bang up job since the two biggest events, Wrestlecon and ROH already have events in place for that weekend in Silicon Valley .
Why do people want them to ban these events? Have you ever been to a Wrestlemania? Having 24/7 immersion and interaction with past superstars is amazing. They aren't protecting themselves. I've been to several axxess sessions and you can't move in them or meet anyone unless you are VIP
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 21:45:33 GMT -5
They did a real bang up job since the two biggest events, Wrestlecon and ROH already have events in place for that weekend in Silicon Valley . Why do people want them to ban these events? Have you ever been to a Wrestlemania? Having 24/7 immersion and interaction with past superstars is amazing. They aren't protecting themselves. I've been to several axxess sessions and you can't move in them or meet anyone unless you are VIP I don't recall anybody saying they wanted them to. They said they understand why they are, and it's a smart move by WWE. That's all.
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Post by Chip on Jan 15, 2015 21:52:05 GMT -5
I think the word "ban" just turns people off.
Their approach should be that they say they want the area free so they can run their own shows. The WWE has a glorified indy promotion of their own....it's called nXt....do a weekend of special attraction nXt shows with main talent, guys who aren't used alot and the regular nXt roster.
They want to sell their own product, not let other companies mooch off the area being filled with wrestling fans
i mean ROH doesn't really need the promotion...i think they are doing well enough themselves and if you're a convention you should be focused on putting on a great show with great talent, not booking just because the WWE is in town and you'll get "trickle tickets" and other indy feds who are nobodies should be focusing on making their product better, not getting random fans in the door for a one-off most of the indy wrestling scene is full of scum and degenerates anyway....i say most....i dont mean all....the good promotions are run the way they should be and their success resonates. but there are plenty of shitbag promotions out their who would be all over the opportunity to get causal fans in the door because they can book Shelton Benjamin or Brodus Clay on their show
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Post by MattelsRule on Jan 15, 2015 21:52:29 GMT -5
I'm staying at the wrestlecon hotel so party on!
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Post by Boy Wonder on Jan 15, 2015 23:01:37 GMT -5
Absolutely ridiculous. No reason for them to do this. If someone wants to go to Mania, they will. If they decide on going to an indy event too, so what?
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Post by JC Motors on Jan 15, 2015 23:23:05 GMT -5
Yeah good luck with that WWE
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Jan 15, 2015 23:31:46 GMT -5
Unfortunately for them I don't think it'll actually work. But I totally understand where they are coming from and it is justified. You can't leech off the advertising, promotion and money invested into someone's work. You can't just set up a baseball game outside of an mlb venue. It's pretty wrong. Especially given the brutality people could be exposed to at Indy events that mistakenly identify it as belonging to WWE. I'd say there is a fair amount of casial fans or parents who think both are linked and that reflects terribly on the clean image of wwe.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jan 15, 2015 23:48:23 GMT -5
Do any of the events directly conflict with any WWE event? I really don't see what the problem is here. I highly doubt anybody, except the indie crowd, would choose an indie show over anything the WWE does. I'm sure there are some that travel to the cities that WrestleMania it's held in just to go to indie shows. Those numbers have to be small and it's not like the WWE is losing out on their money because they weren't going to get it anyway. This is just petty. It's got nothing nothing to do with business, this is the WWE trying to convince those that don't know any better that they invented wrestling.
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Post by BØRNS on Jan 16, 2015 0:44:16 GMT -5
Hear me out, please. Independent promotions, especially larger ones like ROH, do not get to tour the entire country mainly because they are regional with the support of their regional fans. Having an opportunity to reach thousands of die-hard wrestling fans who travel by plane/train/automobile is an exceptional way not only to share their work, but is ALSO a chance for local people to see these shows. Fans in California never get the opportunity to see ROH or any other major independent promotion like Dragon Gate or Evolve, etc. It is not worth it for them to travel to the other side of the country at a random time like November or something, because it's just not economic for them. Having a surplus (and I mean SURPLUS) of wrestling fans in the area provides them enough fans willing to attend a show to make it worth their long-distance production travel and talent transportation. I LOOK FORWARD to the shows because I don't get a chance to see them elsewhere. People attend indy shows on their own accord. WWE doesn't own the city, and they are acting like spoiled babies. Typical corporate monopoly bull5hit. They think just because they have a bunch of money that they can do whatever they want. Go yourself!
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Post by BØRNS on Jan 16, 2015 0:47:38 GMT -5
Unfortunately for them I don't think it'll actually work. But I totally understand where they are coming from and it is justified. You can't leech off the advertising, promotion and money invested into someone's work. You can't just set up a baseball game outside of an mlb venue. It's pretty wrong. Especially given the brutality people could be exposed to at Indy events that mistakenly identify it as belonging to WWE. I'd say there is a fair amount of casial fans or parents who think both are linked and that reflects terribly on the clean image of wwe. WWE's image hasn't always been (and still isn't) squeaky clean! And let's not forget that a lot of the talent at these shows are former and FUTURE wrestlers in WWE.
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Post by BØRNS on Jan 16, 2015 0:59:16 GMT -5
Absolutely ridiculous. No reason for them to do this. If someone wants to go to Mania, they will. If they decide on going to an indy event too, so what? Exactly. And like I said, WWE is not losing out from having other shows in town. If anything, it's a draw for people to arrive early for WM "weekend" because they can catch a show or two ON TOP of paying hundreds/thousands to WWE alone.
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