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Post by marino13 on Jan 26, 2015 19:05:29 GMT -5
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Post by greenjack1992 on Jan 26, 2015 19:05:54 GMT -5
Hundred percent agree.
I've cancelled mine.
I have also made plans tonight to stop myself from being tempted to watch Raw.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 26, 2015 19:06:02 GMT -5
I kind of agree. I love the Network, but a lot of the value of it is tied up in NXT and old content for me. It's good to put the fear of the true gods (fans) into Vince and Co. LOL WHAT?! In what world are the fans "the true Gods"... And also in none of those worlds would Vince and and Co EVER fear a few thousand pissed off, pouty little brat fans... Good god some fans are so delusional. I doubt the number is true, but if it is, that's not a few thousand pouty little brats. That's a big chunk of the 700,000 or so subscribers. That's a big hit if it were true. Let's not be delusional here. |
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Post by noir on Jan 26, 2015 19:06:16 GMT -5
FYI people, NXT is on hulu and is cheaper than the network.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 26, 2015 19:08:05 GMT -5
Hundred percent agree. I've cancelled mine. I have also made plans tonight to stop myself from being tempted to watch Raw. No Raw tonight. At least nothing live. Watch Lucha Underground or RAWlternative tonight. Should be fun. |
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Post by wyleecyotee on Jan 26, 2015 19:17:20 GMT -5
Factor in how many of those will re-subscribe for Mania or when this whole thing blows over and they calm down a bit. |
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Post by Duck Holliday on Jan 26, 2015 20:37:53 GMT -5
I kind of agree. I love the Network, but a lot of the value of it is tied up in NXT and old content for me. It's good to put the fear of the true gods (fans) into Vince and Co. LOL WHAT?! In what world are the fans "the true Gods"... And also in none of those worlds would Vince and and Co EVER fear a few thousand pissed off, pouty little brat fans... Good god some fans are so delusional. Yeah, some are. I understand that my verbiage was somewhat hyperbolic, but the "true gods" is a commentary on the legit power of the fans. Fans buy shirts and merch, go to shows, buy DVD's and video games, cheer and makes waves in public and social media. WCW went out of business cause they lost the ratings war cause fans decided that the product sucked compared to the WWF. Cena is still the guy cause cause fans buy his merch. Daniel Bryan became the man from the Rumble-WM/Extreme Rules last year because the fans legit made their voices heard. Yeah, Vince and the WWE might push certain things to see if they work, but if something is straight up not working they eventually bow to what the fans want. Another example that comes to mind is Lugar failing to get over enough to be the guy. Vince wanted him so badly to be the man, dumped all the money he could into it; slamming Yoko, the tour bus, main eventing Summer Slam and Survivor Series, co-winning the rumble-- whatever, but he never got over as much as Bret, so Vince put the title back on Bret. A lot of that vote comes from money. Whether they decide to cancel their subscriptions, buy merch from their favorite stars, to go or not to go to shows and to boo or cheer. |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 26, 2015 21:04:03 GMT -5
There were reports that the cancellation page went down due to mass traffic.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Jan 26, 2015 21:31:45 GMT -5
People that cancel their Network subs just because they're butthurt over their favorite internet darlings are only hurting themselves.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 27, 2015 1:24:16 GMT -5
That's irrelevant. Alternatives exist. And in particular, anyone crying about WWE on a wrestling forum likely sees hundreds of avatars and signatures for other promotions, as well as subforums for them on a lot of boards -- alternatives right in front of their face. The sad reality, though, is that a lot of people are more interested in hating WWE than enjoying any other wrestling. the point is actually very relevant. False. And if someone doesn't like "WWE's lack of creative direction and shoddy product" but continues to watch it and complain about it, that's on them. The bigger fool is the person who spends hours (and money) every week/month/year watching something they know they hate. Anvil Fan will always have a delightful array of gifs for such occasions. Yes. You confused crying with laughing. |
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Post by K5 on Jan 27, 2015 1:27:44 GMT -5
People that cancel their Network subs just because they're butthurt over their favorite internet darlings are only hurting themselves. nope. enough subscriptions lost would undoubtedly be detrimental and would inarguably hurt the WWE. the fans, on the other hand, will survive. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 27, 2015 1:33:08 GMT -5
Considering they only had like 677.000 at last report, I don't fully believe this total. It's fictional. WWE aren't releasing those numbers. We'll never really know how many people canceled in the last 24 hours... The closest we'll get is the conference call in April or May that'll have the total subscriptions and cancellations for Q1, but that'll also include everyone who signs up for Mania and cancels right after. Plus, you have to remember, tons of people cancel the network anyway. They lose massive amounts of subscribers every quarter, that's why the total numbers are so bad. The retention rate is atrocious considering it's such a niche service. |
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Post by K5 on Jan 27, 2015 1:45:58 GMT -5
I don't consider diehard fans of wrestling to be fools, they're passionate about the 'sport' and certain talents. and those fans can and do lose hope for change and stop watching eventually.
People will defend anything the WWE does on here.
And lol @ your total avoidance of explaining how the music industry alternatives and wrestling industry alternatives aren't in the ways I discussed relevant to one another.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Jan 27, 2015 1:55:39 GMT -5
People that cancel their Network subs just because they're butthurt over their favorite internet darlings are only hurting themselves. nope. enough subscriptions lost would undoubtedly be detrimental and would inarguably hurt the WWE. the fans, on the other hand, will survive. And so would the WWE. And let's say the WWE didn't survive. Where would the "surviving" fans go from there? TNA? |
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Post by | NLS™ | on Jan 27, 2015 1:58:12 GMT -5
It's amusing to me how many people do not understand "vote with your wallet" and instead think this is an attack on the WWE Network's value or even Roman Reigns himself as an individual. WWE will not go under if 200k people unsubscribe from The Network. The whole point of this is to directly impact them for their questionable decision making and refusal to properly utilize organically made stars. If a substantial amount of people unsubscribe and if critical social media trends make news headlines, they'll have to directly face the facts that force feeding people things THEY want over things the paying customers want may not be a good business strategy going forward. They listen to dollars and to an extent crowd response. If you enjoy their product and don't mind having stars decided ahead of time at the expense of others who got over on their own volition, by all means, ignore this whole thing and continue to enjoy WWE's direction. Well said and I will enjoy it's direction. I think this year's WrestleMania main event is shaping up to be a good one. Also, I couldn't agree with your "vote with your wallet" more. The problem is, all that's gonna happen is people will bitch and complain and piss and moan like they always do but continue to watch the product anyways. It gets old. Look fellas, if ya don't like the product, then by all means... GO AWAY! Not to be a dick but you babies hi-jacking shows becoming weak ass, hostile crowds because your guy didn't come out on top is just bullsh*t. Bad crowds ruin shows. Regardless of the quality of it. Period. If I truly don't like something, guess what? I won't watch it. For example, I watched an episode of Total Divas once and thought it was Total Garbage and I. Never. Watched. Again. Write that down... |
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Post by Rob on Jan 27, 2015 1:58:44 GMT -5
I'm at my breaking point with WWE. I'm sick of Vince and his bullcrap"Those damn millennials wont grab the brass ring" Yet you push the weaklink of the Shield, You push the guy who starts his singles career, has a match with Orton, gets injuries then comes back and wins Superstar of the Year for literally doing nothing memorable. Starts a useless feud with Big Show that they never even finished and completely rushed a Royal Rumble win on him. Now we are suppose to believe this guy, 1 time tag team champion has a chance in hell against Brock Lesnar in the main event of WM, Who has decimated Undertaker, Kane, Big Show, and Cena without even hinting at looking weak. Does WWE really think this is what will sell? This is Goldberg vs Lesnar 2.0 except in a much higher caliber match. Fans have nothing to invest in. Roman Reigns never even had a road to climb, He has been given his spot on a diamond outlined platter. Why should fans care? Dear WWE, Fans see through this bullshit. We aren't  ing stupid. |
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Post by K5 on Jan 27, 2015 2:27:13 GMT -5
nope. enough subscriptions lost would undoubtedly be detrimental and would inarguably hurt the WWE. the fans, on the other hand, will survive. And so would the WWE. And let's say the WWE didn't survive. Where would the "surviving" fans go from there? TNA? a very interesting question - undoubtedly, the wrestling industry would have to be reshaped as we know it. |
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Post by Colter on Jan 27, 2015 2:31:03 GMT -5
Lol, I'm not cancelling jack dick. I'm keeping my NXT and ECW PPV's, bruh.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Jan 27, 2015 2:33:46 GMT -5
And so would the WWE. And let's say the WWE didn't survive. Where would the "surviving" fans go from there? TNA? a very interesting question - undoubtedly, the wrestling industry would have to be reshaped as we know it. Yeah, well that's not gonna happen because all the crybaby's will continue to watch, continue to complain and continue to annoy. |
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Post by K5 on Jan 27, 2015 2:43:55 GMT -5
a very interesting question - undoubtedly, the wrestling industry would have to be reshaped as we know it. Yeah, well that's not gonna happen because all the crybaby's will continue to watch, continue to complain and continue to annoy. as a fellow longtime member of the board, surely you must see the dwindled numbers even of forum members here as the years have gone by - wrestling is at a lowpoint. the fans DO stop watching. I am one of the only fans of it remaining that I even know. WWE is not omnipotent. |
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