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Post by jayrod2009 on Jun 22, 2015 18:28:05 GMT -5
New Jack hasn't had a figure since 2000 Blue Meanie has never had a figure That is one reason why I like this Legends concept. But, ECW has plenty of guys who are big names that could get in this line. Shane Douglas, Raven, Tommy Dreamer, Taz, Sabu, Stevie Richards, Too Cold Scorpio, Pitbulls, Terry Funk, Mike Awesome, Super Crazy, Tajiri, Rob Van Dam, Bill Alfanso, Jerry Lynn, Dudleys Boys, Psicosis ( masked), Rey Mysterio, Juventud Guerrero, Chris Candido... Come on, sone if these guys haven't had figures in 15 years, sone never at all. I wonder if they can get rights to the ECw titles? WWE owns ECW trademarks. You'll never see ECW titles in this series. But They don't own the belt rights, and Mattel stated They nor WWE would attempt a license rights for them. So... Its a possibility. It would help sales. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 18:44:10 GMT -5
By legends I would think they would throw a Stan Hansen, Pedro Morales, or actual guy who needs a RA figure and made an impact on wrestling
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 19:09:08 GMT -5
By legends I would think they would throw a Stan Hansen, Pedro Morales, or actual guy who needs a RA figure and made an impact on wrestling Hansen would be cool. Morales would sit. Status in the business doesn't always translate to sales. Look at pegwarmers like classic Lex Luger, Barry Windham, Dynamite Kid etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 19:22:00 GMT -5
Stoked for Blue Meanie but I don't think the company has the rights to any torso that would look good for him.
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Post by micco on Jun 22, 2015 19:22:45 GMT -5
I have no problem with ecw guys, but some of these guys just aren't big names. Obviously, the biggest ecw names got scooped up by wwe, wcw and tna and have had figures, so if you're an ecw guy that's never had a figure, there's a reason for it. It's because you're not that good and not a big name legend. Depending on how they look, I'll probably be getting all of the guys announced thus far, but I can see a lot of people passing. If this company has the opportunity to make a figure of a bonafide big name legend like a Pedro morales, who's never had a figure, that would be a much better signing IMO. I don't know how much these guys are getting paid and perhaps some have the mentality that, it's just free money that they don't have to do anything for and therefor will accept even a very small amount. Justin credible was working at target not long ago and he's probably made more in his career that Mikey whipwreck, new jack and blue meanie combined, so all these guys probably need any money they can get. Point is, anyone doing well financially or that was an actual big star might value the use of their likeness at a price point that is out of this company's ball park and thus that could be the reason why we're not seeing a variety of talent signed. New Jack hasn't had a figure since 2000 Blue Meanie has never had a figure That is one reason why I like this Legends concept. But, ECW has plenty of guys who are big names that could get in this line. Shane Douglas, Raven, Tommy Dreamer, Taz, Sabu, Stevie Richards, Too Cold Scorpio, Pitbulls, Terry Funk, Mike Awesome, Super Crazy, Tajiri, Rob Van Dam, Bill Alfanso, Jerry Lynn, Dudleys Boys, Psicosis ( masked), Rey Mysterio, Juventud Guerrero, Chris Candido... Come on, sone if these guys haven't had figures in 15 years, sone never at all. I wonder if they can get rights to the ECw titles? Most of those guys already have ra style figs. Some of the ones that don't I'd definitely want, like the franchise, candido, Mike awesome and too cold who I brought earlier in this thread. Gary wolf, however is not a big name. Neither is bill alphons. Some of those guys like Rey, dudleys, sabu and rvd are just highly unlikely because the money won't be enticing enough and they have a shot at a wwe legends deal. If it's so much about the time period, why not try to get guys from the same era that competed in wcw. Scott Norton, mortis, wrath, Alex wright, disco inferno, David flair, Sean ohaire, Hugh Morris, the wall etc. |
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jun 22, 2015 19:48:28 GMT -5
New Jack hasn't had a figure since 2000 Blue Meanie has never had a figure That is one reason why I like this Legends concept. But, ECW has plenty of guys who are big names that could get in this line. Shane Douglas, Raven, Tommy Dreamer, Taz, Sabu, Stevie Richards, Too Cold Scorpio, Pitbulls, Terry Funk, Mike Awesome, Super Crazy, Tajiri, Rob Van Dam, Bill Alfanso, Jerry Lynn, Dudleys Boys, Psicosis ( masked), Rey Mysterio, Juventud Guerrero, Chris Candido... Come on, sone if these guys haven't had figures in 15 years, sone never at all. I wonder if they can get rights to the ECw titles? Most of those guys already have ra style figs. Some of the ones that don't I'd definitely want, like the franchise, candido, Mike awesome and too cold who I brought earlier in this thread. Gary wolf, however is not a big name. Neither is bill alphons. Some of those guys like Rey, dudleys, sabu and rvd are just highly unlikely because the money won't be enticing enough and they have a shot at a wwe legends deal. If it's so much about the time period, why not try to get guys from the same era that competed in wcw. Scott Norton, mortis, wrath, Alex wright, disco inferno, David flair, Sean ohaire, Hugh Morris, the wall etc. I'm all for WCW guys. Psicosis ( black/white) LA Parka Raven Saturn Kronik Scotty Rigs Are all guys I wanted from the Jakks days that we never saw. This line, be it Legends, Indy, or ROH has so much potential. I hope that everyone we want can get on board. I want this to blossom into store shelves. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 22:07:44 GMT -5
Better then nothing I suppose, with regards to Meanie.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Jun 22, 2015 22:22:04 GMT -5
Another ECW name?? Not that he isn't deserving but come on, mix it up a little, we need some WCW/NWO era guys as well please. Guys like La Parka, Alex Wright, Disco Inferno, Chris Kanyon, Norman Smiley, Vampiro, Psicosis... those are the kind of names I'm waiting to hear. There's also guys like Bryan Clark and Big Vito who have been quite outspoken in their dislike of WWE, they would be prime candidates for this line IMO. Parka is a Mexican talent and they said international rights can be tricky. Norman Smiley is a NXT trainer. Vampiro is in Lucha Underground. Bryan Clark was done as Adam Bomb. Psicosis already was a RA shelfwarmer. None of those guys are very likely. The only guy besides Parka that would be cool there is Disco. Someone in Mexico wrestles as La Parka, but the guy who was La Parka in WCW wrestles under a different name (L.A. Park last I heard) in the States, using the same attire. I'd say he's possible. WWE owns ECW trademarks. You'll never see ECW titles in this series. But They don't own the belt rights, and Mattel stated They nor WWE would attempt a license rights for them. So... Its a possibility. It would help sales. Did Mattel not just release the ECW title last year with Punk? |
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jun 22, 2015 22:25:30 GMT -5
Another ECW name?? Not that he isn't deserving but come on, mix it up a little, we need some WCW/NWO era guys as well please. Guys like La Parka, Alex Wright, Disco Inferno, Chris Kanyon, Norman Smiley, Vampiro, Psicosis... those are the kind of names I'm waiting to hear. There's also guys like Bryan Clark and Big Vito who have been quite outspoken in their dislike of WWE, they would be prime candidates for this line IMO. Parka is a Mexican talent and they said international rights can be tricky. Norman Smiley is a NXT trainer. Vampiro is in Lucha Underground. Bryan Clark was done as Adam Bomb. Psicosis already was a RA shelfwarmer. None of those guys are very likely. The only guy besides Parka that would be cool there is Disco. Psicosis was a shelf warmer because we got a Current Mexicoole version. We begged Jeremy for a WCW Crusierweight version, and he always told us budget was an issue. Meanwhile, an online store got an exclusive Ultimo Dragon with entrance gear. Psicosis is a must! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 22:36:49 GMT -5
Parka is a Mexican talent and they said international rights can be tricky. Norman Smiley is a NXT trainer. Vampiro is in Lucha Underground. Bryan Clark was done as Adam Bomb. Psicosis already was a RA shelfwarmer. None of those guys are very likely. The only guy besides Parka that would be cool there is Disco. Someone in Mexico wrestles as La Parka, but the guy who was La Parka in WCW wrestles under a different name (L.A. Park last I heard) in the States, using the same attire. I'd say he's possible. But They don't own the belt rights, and Mattel stated They nor WWE would attempt a license rights for them. So... Its a possibility. It would help sales. Did Mattel not just release the ECW title last year with Punk? LA Park is not a US worker. He's the original Parka with a name change due to rights issues in Mexico about who owns what. That's the kind of situation the company stated they did not want to get into because it may mean having to license rights from whatever wrestling fed trademarked it, which could cost more. |
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Jun 22, 2015 22:45:45 GMT -5
Someone in Mexico wrestles as La Parka, but the guy who was La Parka in WCW wrestles under a different name (L.A. Park last I heard) in the States, using the same attire. I'd say he's possible. Did Mattel not just release the ECW title last year with Punk? LA Park is not a US worker. He's the original Parka with a name change due to rights issues in Mexico about who owns what. That's the kind of situation the company stated they did not want to get into because it may mean having to license rights from whatever wrestling fed trademarked it, which could cost more. I didn't say he was from the US. I said he works in the indies in the US (sometimes). |
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Jun 22, 2015 23:23:32 GMT -5
LA Park is not a US worker. He's the original Parka with a name change due to rights issues in Mexico about who owns what. That's the kind of situation the company stated they did not want to get into because it may mean having to license rights from whatever wrestling fed trademarked it, which could cost more. I didn't say he was from the US. I said he works in the indies in the US (sometimes). no he doesn't |
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Jun 22, 2015 23:47:05 GMT -5
I didn't say he was from the US. I said he works in the indies in the US (sometimes). no he doesn't Well I'll just take your word for it... I assumed that was the whole reason he took up the LA Park name after AAA took La Parka away from him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 8:24:57 GMT -5
That's good to hear.
A flabby Regal RA26 torso just won't cut it...
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Jun 23, 2015 8:38:01 GMT -5
What is the price point for these things? $25? $20? No offense to the guys, but I honestly can't see many people spending more than $15 on a Blue Meanie or Whipwreck figure.
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Post by micco on Jun 23, 2015 8:56:51 GMT -5
What is the price point for these things? $25? $20? No offense to the guys, but I honestly can't see many people spending more than $15 on a Blue Meanie or Whipwreck figure. I kinda agree, but not solely because they're probably gonna be in the 20-25 range. I think some people wouldn't pay the price of a Mattel basic for either of those guys. This is why I think the toy company should do a poll rather than just give guys contracts before knowing what the main consumer base is really interested in buying. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 9:23:11 GMT -5
What is the price point for these things? $25? $20? No offense to the guys, but I honestly can't see many people spending more than $15 on a Blue Meanie or Whipwreck figure. I kinda agree, but not solely because they're probably gonna be in the 20-25 range. I think some people wouldn't pay the price of a Mattel basic for either of those guys. This is why I think the toy company should do a poll rather than just give guys contracts before knowing what the main consumer base is really interested in buying. Blue Meanie was one of the most requested guys on Twitter. So was Bullet Club guys which is prob why Omega got signed. Their rep has said they are speaking with a lot of talent. Remember this is just the beginning. He also said he's been a fan for years and is familiar with and friendly with guys on the indy scene so they have ideas of who to go after. It feels like everyone here forgets the info we have already heard lol. Maybe edit the 1st post to include all released info? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 9:39:02 GMT -5
Also remember just because we want certain guys doesn't mean they can get them. I have a dream lineup just like anyone but I don't think the company will be able to get everyone. ECW guys are a good hook to start but I don't want them forever...however there are also other people mentioned that would be just as so-so. Scott Norton or Alex Wright would not do well IMO.
Also remember these are guys still active on indies and at shows and they said a goal was not just to "make figures" but give these guys some new merch to sell. A guy like Stan Hansen may do well but its risky because he's not active in promoting or selling his figure like a Myers or Compton etc. We saw with JAKKS that older legends can be hard to move
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Post by micco on Jun 23, 2015 11:04:55 GMT -5
Also remember just because we want certain guys doesn't mean they can get them. I have a dream lineup just like anyone but I don't think the company will be able to get everyone. ECW guys are a good hook to start but I don't want them forever...however there are also other people mentioned that would be just as so-so. Scott Norton or Alex Wright would not do well IMO. Also remember these are guys still active on indies and at shows and they said a goal was not just to "make figures" but give these guys some new merch to sell. A guy like Stan Hansen may do well but its risky because he's not active in promoting or selling his figure like a Myers or Compton etc. We saw with JAKKS that older legends can be hard to move Obviously you and I have different opinions, and a third person will disagree with both of us, hence the reason for a poll. I'm not talking about a poll that lists a thousand dream names, just people with whom they've been in contact with who have shown interest in signing a deal. Just because one guy in charge of the line is a fan of wrestling himself doesn't mean he can read the minds of thousands of consumers. And just because twitters vocal minority says they want a blue meanie figure doesn't mean that it will predict the success of said figures sales. The type of poll I'm referring to is the same kind of research that all companies, big and small, use. And instead of paying people to be a part of focus groups, they can collect the same data for free by way of an online poll. |
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Post by Chip on Jun 23, 2015 11:09:24 GMT -5
but a poll is only going to reach the number of people that actually vote
and what's stopping someone from voting a hundred times for their own personal favorite?
online polls are a tool for marketing, yes, but to base any real decisions on them without a MASSIVE turnout would be foolish.
these guys are contacting indy workers and well-known wrestling talent that still are active at shows and conventions in an effort to sell figures. they aren't going to go after a guy like scott norton who doesn't wrestle anymore and i dont even think does any wrestling conventions. so who are they gonna sell his figure to? 10 guys on this board?
this isnt a guessing game of who collectors want to see...it's an effort to get wrestling figures out of guys who are on the indies and "legends" of the industry who are able to also buy & sell their OWN figures of themselves.
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