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Post by Zigzag on Feb 9, 2015 11:18:53 GMT -5
Last year, he was truly just shoehorned in, because the fans were just too loud to ignore. At least this year would be more justified.
This year, Bryan can claim a rematch he never got for a title he never lost. And if there's some sort of double-pin/DQ/screwy finish at FastLane, it would be logical for both he and Reigns to face Lesnar at WM.
That said, I do wish they'd cool it with the triple threat main events at Mania. 10 years ago, it was a novelty. These days, it's as common as a Dusty Finish used to be.
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Post by LtD73 on Feb 9, 2015 12:22:46 GMT -5
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Post by chaz on Feb 9, 2015 12:28:43 GMT -5
It makes no difference because ultimately Seth Rollins will walk away from WrestleMania as the new champion.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Feb 9, 2015 12:29:11 GMT -5
So the most popular and consistent performer in the company will probably headline the biggest show of the year? Way for WWE to really get crazy.
This never should have been the ordeal that it became. Bryan should have been the guy since day 1.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Feb 9, 2015 13:19:22 GMT -5
It needs to be a fatal four way.....and that is coming from a Bryan fan.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 13:27:12 GMT -5
I really dislike the triple threat idea. If Reigns is gonna win anyway, he needs to beat Brock one on one, otherwise it won't have the same effect from beating the guy who broke the streak.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Feb 9, 2015 13:50:54 GMT -5
Could say the same about Roman Reigns, tbh. Not really. This has been building with Reigns since Survivor Series 2013. In what way has it been building to that? The WWE never told that story. The only stories that would make sense are Cena, who has beef with Lesnar and never got a 1-on-1 rematch; Bryan, who never got a rematch and would prove the injury didn't end his story. Reigns' injury stopped his trajectory. And they didn't do anyhting to put him in that spot again when he got back. They have NOT toldthis story up to this point, which is 90% of the problem with it. But even if they did, that wouldn't mean that necessarily Reigns is not being "shoe-horned in to a match he doesn't belong in." To say he's earned that spot is "sufferin' succotash, son."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 13:55:24 GMT -5
Not really. This has been building with Reigns since Survivor Series 2013. In what way has it been building to that? The WWE never told that story. The only stories that would make sense are Cena, who has beef with Lesnar and never got a 1-on-1 rematch; Bryan, who never got a rematch and would prove the injury didn't end his story. Reigns' injury stopped his trajectory. And they didn't do anyhting to put him in that spot again when he got back. They have NOT toldthis story up to this point, which is 90% of the problem with it. But even if they did, that wouldn't mean that necessarily Reigns is not being "shoe-horned in to a match he doesn't belong in." To say he's earned that spot is "sufferin' succotash, son." Roman's SS'13 record breaking was the start of his build towards winning this years Rumble. He broke the '14 Rumble elimination record and was the runner up, he spent a fair amount of his non-injured months in high profile feuds. He earned the spot by being over (yes, he was over before the fans turned on him for being a guy picked by WWE), and by having "it".
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Post by Chip on Feb 9, 2015 14:01:10 GMT -5
Rollins should have won at Rumble Bryan wins Rumble
Bryan vs. Rollins main eventing Wrestlemania 30 in the greatest match in Wrestlemania history.
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ALL Fans Happy.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Feb 9, 2015 14:32:01 GMT -5
In what way has it been building to that? The WWE never told that story. The only stories that would make sense are Cena, who has beef with Lesnar and never got a 1-on-1 rematch; Bryan, who never got a rematch and would prove the injury didn't end his story. Reigns' injury stopped his trajectory. And they didn't do anyhting to put him in that spot again when he got back. They have NOT toldthis story up to this point, which is 90% of the problem with it. But even if they did, that wouldn't mean that necessarily Reigns is not being "shoe-horned in to a match he doesn't belong in." To say he's earned that spot is "sufferin' succotash, son." Roman's SS'13 record breaking was the start of his build towards winning this years Rumble. He broke the '14 Rumble elimination record and was the runner up, he spent a fair amount of his non-injured months in high profile feuds. He earned the spot by being over (yes, he was over before the fans turned on him for being a guy picked by WWE), and by having "it". I like Roman but he doesn't have "it" - yet. If he had "it," he could string two sentences together without sounding like an idiot (this may be a problem of WWE's scripting, I admit). Rusev has not been pinned or made to submit in over a year, but that doesn't mean the WWE has told a story justifying him entering the main event of the biggest event of the year. Like I said, I don't think people dislike Roman specifically (I know I don't), they just don't like that fact that WWE doesn't give us a reason to believe he's "the guy." They can tell us he is, but they haven't shown us. That's storytelling 101. It's the exact same thing with Batista. Even from the outside, it seems odd that he just got shotgunned into that spot without any build-up to it. If Roman had stayed healthy all year, I have no doubt he would have been on Team Cena and done Ziggler's role at Survivor Series, he would have feuded with the Authority and built up to the spot. But he wasn't, and he didn't. Which is the point I'm trying to make.
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Post by PJ on Feb 9, 2015 14:40:50 GMT -5
It's a mistake if true. I like Bryan but Vince shouldn't cave into anybody. Now every year it'll be the same thing. If "fill in the blank" doesn't win or headline WM we are going to boo/hijack every show until we get what we want. And as much as I like Bryan there's no way he should beat Brock cleanly for the title which is still what these people want to happen. Sorry but Brock ended the streak, they built him up as this unstoppable monster now have Bryan come back after being out almost a year and more than likely beat Brock on his first attempt now makes Bryan an unbeatable wrestler. He needs to stay an underdog.
I would rather they keep it as planned. Have Reigns beat Brock in a war. Then if they now feel Roman isn't ready just have Rollins cash in on him right after the match. Then have Bryan, Reigns, Rollins at the next PPV before moving into a Rollins vs Bryan program.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2015 14:41:02 GMT -5
Roman's SS'13 record breaking was the start of his build towards winning this years Rumble. He broke the '14 Rumble elimination record and was the runner up, he spent a fair amount of his non-injured months in high profile feuds. He earned the spot by being over (yes, he was over before the fans turned on him for being a guy picked by WWE), and by having "it". I like Roman but he doesn't have "it" - yet. If he had "it," he could string two sentences together without sounding like an idiot (this may be a problem of WWE's scripting, I admit). Rusev has not been pinned or made to submit in over a year, but that doesn't mean the WWE has told a story justifying him entering the main event of the biggest event of the year. Like I said, I don't think people dislike Roman specifically (I know I don't), they just don't like that fact that WWE doesn't give us a reason to believe he's "the guy." They can tell us he is, but they haven't shown us. That's storytelling 101. It's the exact same thing with Batista. Even from the outside, it seems odd that he just got shotgunned into that spot without any build-up to it. If Roman had stayed healthy all year, I have no doubt he would have been on Team Cena and done Ziggler's role at Survivor Series, he would have feuded with the Authority and built up to the spot. But he wasn't, and he didn't. Which is the point I'm trying to make. "It" is something you either have, or don't. You don't learn it. Roman has "it". Considering his injury, they've done a fine job building him. The execution of the Rumble was piss poor, but that doesn't mean Roman isn't ready. He is.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Feb 9, 2015 14:48:55 GMT -5
If this is true, I'm out. I'll watch Sting vs. HHH the next day and skip the rest altogether. I have no desire to see Bryan shoe-horned into a match that he has no business being in for the second year in a row. They should have called an audible when Reigns came back and was cutting worse promos. The fans want to like the guy but he has to come through naturally. Bryan should have been set to win the Rumble after he came back to a much bigger and better reaction or at least eliminated in a very screwball way. The Authority, who kayfabe despises Daniel Bryan, shouldn't be handing him a title opportunity. They back themselves into a very narrow corner this year because: if Bryan wins it makes very little sense, if Reigns wins he'll get booed worse than Cena in 2011, and if Brock wins we still have a part time champ.
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Post by King Richius on Feb 9, 2015 14:52:05 GMT -5
It makes no difference because ultimately Seth Rollins will walk away from WrestleMania as the new champion. I agree. If the main event is Bryan vs. Lesnar (and I really hope it is) I'm not sure that Bryan gets the win or just gets to look strong before Brock beats him but is left too weak to counter a Rollins cash-in. It has been a few years since we had a heel walk out of WM with the title so we're overdue. This way leaves the door open to multiple future opponents for Brock should he sign on for another year or two. If Brock leaves, it still leaves plenty of opportunities for Rollins/Bryan/Reigns storylines heading into SummerSlam.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Feb 9, 2015 14:52:32 GMT -5
Last year, he was truly just shoehorned in, because the fans were just too loud to ignore. At least this year would be more justified. This year, Bryan can claim a rematch he never got for a title he never lost. And if there's some sort of double-pin/DQ/screwy finish at FastLane, it would be logical for both he and Reigns to face Lesnar at WM. That said, I do wish they'd cool it with the triple threat main events at Mania. 10 years ago, it was a novelty. These days, it's as common as a Dusty Finish used to be. I would argue they had a better reason last year as Bryan wasn't even in the Rumble and never lost a title match clean to Orton. The Authority hates Bryan, why would they give him another shot when they don't have to?
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Post by Zigzag on Feb 9, 2015 15:29:28 GMT -5
Last year, he was truly just shoehorned in, because the fans were just too loud to ignore. At least this year would be more justified. This year, Bryan can claim a rematch he never got for a title he never lost. And if there's some sort of double-pin/DQ/screwy finish at FastLane, it would be logical for both he and Reigns to face Lesnar at WM. That said, I do wish they'd cool it with the triple threat main events at Mania. 10 years ago, it was a novelty. These days, it's as common as a Dusty Finish used to be. I would argue they had a better reason last year as Bryan wasn't even in the Rumble and never lost a title match clean to Orton. The Authority hates Bryan, why would they give him another shot when they don't have to? Respectfully... It was never explicitly said that he was even in the Rumble match last year. They had no intention of putting him there. They were planning to pair him against Sheamus, somewhere in the mid-card of WM 30. I'll agree that he never lost clean in title matches against Orton (I was even ringside for Hell In The Cell in 2013, to see for myself). Anyway, once the fans realized their favorite guy wasn't going to be where they wanted him for Mania, they made themselves heard, until WWE had no real choice. At least this year, logic follows a real (but basic) storyline.
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Post by PVA on Feb 9, 2015 16:10:03 GMT -5
Bryan added to make 3,way to keep fans interested in match.
Reigns pins Bryan for title @ WM- fans boo. Save lesnar from being pinned or submitted.
Seth Rollins cashes mitb and wins - send fans home cheering.
Reigns beats Rollins next ppv to win title.
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Post by Rontaro13 on Feb 9, 2015 16:59:45 GMT -5
If this is true then I'm glad WWE won't ignore the fans like it seemed like they were going to. I would have much preferred if Bryan faced Lesnar 1 on 1, and Reigns faces Big Show at WM31 to end it between those 2, but a triple threat WWE title match is good with me.
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Post by GBM™ on Feb 9, 2015 17:09:45 GMT -5
If this is true then I'm glad WWE won't ignore the fans like it seemed like they were going to. I would have much preferred if Bryan faced Lesnar 1 on 1, and Reigns faces Big Show at WM31 to end it between those 2, but a triple threat WWE title match is good with me. Please God, no!
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Post by Nivro™ on Feb 9, 2015 17:27:52 GMT -5
The only way to end this properly is have Bryan give Roman a german suplex for a 1-2-3 but have the ref raise Roman's hand. Then let the crowd go ape crapand start throwing things and going crazy. Then have a 2nd ref and/or Triple H come out and review the footage and see Romans shoulders were down and Bryans were up and award the title to Bryan. The fans and everyone goes crazy but Roman is pissed so he attacked Bryan (thus turning Roman heel) and as he walks off, Seth Rollins comes down and cashes in and wins the title and the fans.....who at Mania are usually more "marky" anyway, will go home happy.
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