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Post by Planktung on Feb 14, 2015 12:18:01 GMT -5
We live in a world where Kevin Steen, El Generico, KENTA and Prince Devitt are being protected by Triple H and groomed to be the future of WWE.
I like this world.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 12:42:20 GMT -5
We live in a world where Kevin Steen, El Generico, KENTA and Prince Devitt are being protected by Triple H and groomed to be the future of WWE. I like this world. We live in a world where SGT Slaughter was WWE champion over Mr. Perfect. I do not like this world. |
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Post by Planktung on Feb 14, 2015 13:06:38 GMT -5
We live in a world where Kevin Steen, El Generico, KENTA and Prince Devitt are being protected by Triple H and groomed to be the future of WWE. I like this world. We live in a world where SGT Slaughter was WWE champion over Mr. Perfect. I do not like this world. The world can't be perfect.........  |
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Post by jacktunney on Feb 14, 2015 13:10:53 GMT -5
I couldn't care less about any of this stuff, but if you swaped out the names of the Indy darlings with some other random guys people would be having a hissy fit
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Post by Planktung on Feb 14, 2015 13:16:38 GMT -5
I couldn't care less about any of this stuff, but if you swaped out the names of the Indy darlings with some other random guys people would be having a hissy fit "Some other random guys" wouldn't have the credentials of Owens, Balor, Zayn and Itami. The four of them have earned preferential treatment in my eyes. Maybe not to the extent that the report would suggest, but they don't need to do the same drills as someone with much less experience. It's redundant and a slap to their faces. |
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on Feb 14, 2015 13:35:13 GMT -5
I believe that Triple H has picked them (just look at how they're booked), but I seriously doubt them not doing drills and such, especially with Owens apparently shedding a few pounds every week. He's obviously working harder than ever.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Feb 14, 2015 16:04:13 GMT -5
Sheamus did get pushed for that reason. Balor will be pushed bc he is  ing amazing. And yes, I have seen the documentary and have kept in contact with Fergal for years. Dude is overly humble and so ing thankful. About one of the nicest guys I have ever met in pro wrestling. And what concrete proof do you have to back that up? What else explains it? LOL!! The fact is this thread is nothing but conjecture. Why Sheamus got pushed is something none of us know for a absolute fact. Being HHH's workout buddy, having a unique look/accent, right place/right time, fits WWE mold....all opinion. Mine just happens to be a mix of all of the above. Sheamus did get pushed for that reason. Balor will be pushed bc he is ing amazing. And yes, I have seen the documentary and have kept in contact with Fergal for years. Dude is overly humble and so ing thankful. About one of the nicest guys I have ever met in pro wrestling. Sheamus got pushed because he's talented. He's one of the most consistent workers on the entire roster and is ing good at what he does. That's why he was pushed. He is an ABSOLUTE horrid babyface, who got a main event run too early. Consistent worker....check. You wont hear me disagree with you. Stellar worker....uh, no. Wasn't Sheamus or Hunter interviewed a few years ago and were asked if Sheamus was Trip's boy, and they said the only reason people think that is because they worked out together once in Melbourne or somewhere like that? If Sheamus was a Triple H guy, why has he spent the last few years doing nothing of great notice. He won the 2012 Rumble and the World Title, that's about it. Thats it?!?!?! Winning the RR isnt small potatoes. There is 1 winner each year. What I wanna know is what does Hawkins get for reporting stiff like this? Where is the benefit? Does he get his jollies by trying to one up WWE? Does he feel better because he calls up dirt sheets to "tattle on" WWE? I mean no disrespect to Hawkins because I always was a fan, but this just seems like a huge waste of time and energy. I'm sorry Curt, but it's time to move on. Agreed.....its like the other dude Reks constantly raking up sh*t on Cena.....time to move on lads. Although I did like their team and would've like to see them get more of a run. So....they should just accept they got ed and move on? They should just accept their dreams of maineventing WM were unjustly stolen from them? PLEASE! Someone says one bad word about CM Punk on WFigs and this forum goes ape shit, but these guys gets ed out of their livelihoods and you say....just move on. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 16:15:04 GMT -5
And what concrete proof do you have to back that up? What else explains it? LOL!! The fact is this thread is nothing but conjecture. Why Sheamus got pushed is something none of us know for a absolute fact. Being HHH's workout buddy, having a unique look/accent, right place/right time, fits WWE mold....all opinion. Mine just happens to be a mix of all of the above. Sheamus got pushed because he's talented. He's one of the most consistent workers on the entire roster and is ing good at what he does. That's why he was pushed. He is an ABSOLUTE horrid babyface, who got a main event run too early. Consistent worker....check. You wont hear me disagree with you. Stellar worker....uh, no. Wasn't Sheamus or Hunter interviewed a few years ago and were asked if Sheamus was Trip's boy, and they said the only reason people think that is because they worked out together once in Melbourne or somewhere like that? If Sheamus was a Triple H guy, why has he spent the last few years doing nothing of great notice. He won the 2012 Rumble and the World Title, that's about it. Thats it?!?!?! Winning the RR isnt small potatoes. There is 1 winner each year. Agreed.....its like the other dude Reks constantly raking up sh*t on Cena.....time to move on lads. Although I did like their team and would've like to see them get more of a run. So....they should just accept they got ed and move on? They should just accept their dreams of maineventing WM were unjustly stolen from them? PLEASE! Someone says one bad word about CM Punk on WFigs and this forum goes ape crap, but these guys gets ed out of their livelihoods and you say....just move on. First off, Sheamus IS a stellar worker. He puts on consistently good to great matches, and is a damn good heel. I'll agree he's not great as a babyface, but in the ring he's one of the best on the main roster. Sheamus damn well deserves the push he's gotten over the years. I get that you don't like Sheamus, but to say he's where he is simply because he's Triple H's buddy is just wrong is so many ways. 2nd, Hawkins and Reks were never going to be main eventing Wrestlemania. Anybody saying otherwise I'm assuming has never seen them work. CM Punk cleared up why he walked out. Hawkins and Reks were released simply because they didn't have any value in keeping them, that and I believe Reks asked for his release, but I might be wrong on that one. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 17:55:54 GMT -5
I don't see what the big deal is or how this is anything we all couldn't figure out ourselves with a little common sense.
This is just about drills? Isn't drills just more or less running ropes, falling down, flipping, chain wrestling and basic bumps being done rapidly? I'm sure there's a bit more to it too.
That's not the same as the many others things that guys are in development for. Things like learning to wrestle at various stages such as very basic early stuff for models or athletes that have never set foot in a ring. Cutting promos. Knowing where cameras are at on the stage, ramp and ring area. Timing. Psychology. Weight training and cardio are totally separate from all of that.
Just because a few guys don't do drills does not mean they are not working out, learning to eat better or improving mic skills or a million other things that they may have never had the opportunity to experience.
So yeah, these guys with years and years of experience don't run drills. They don't need that from development. I doubt anyone in WWE or NXT has a problem with it and it's probably pretty normal. Triple H should be proud of himself and the guys. He hired some great talent that will take WWE into the future and he works closely with them because they are some of the best he has.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 19:25:59 GMT -5
And what concrete proof do you have to back that up? What else explains it? LOL!! The fact is this thread is nothing but conjecture. Why Sheamus got pushed is something none of us know for a absolute fact. Being HHH's workout buddy, having a unique look/accent, right place/right time, fits WWE mold....all opinion. Mine just happens to be a mix of all of the above. Sheamus got pushed because he's talented. He's one of the most consistent workers on the entire roster and is ing good at what he does. That's why he was pushed. He is an ABSOLUTE horrid babyface, who got a main event run too early. Consistent worker....check. You wont hear me disagree with you. Stellar worker....uh, no. Wasn't Sheamus or Hunter interviewed a few years ago and were asked if Sheamus was Trip's boy, and they said the only reason people think that is because they worked out together once in Melbourne or somewhere like that? If Sheamus was a Triple H guy, why has he spent the last few years doing nothing of great notice. He won the 2012 Rumble and the World Title, that's about it. Thats it?!?!?! Winning the RR isnt small potatoes. There is 1 winner each year. Agreed.....its like the other dude Reks constantly raking up sh*t on Cena.....time to move on lads. Although I did like their team and would've like to see them get more of a run. So....they should just accept they got ed and move on? They should just accept their dreams of maineventing WM were unjustly stolen from them? PLEASE! Someone says one bad word about CM Punk on WFigs and this forum goes ape crap, but these guys gets ed out of their livelihoods and you say....just move on. Your anger in relation to this topic is disproportionate. It must be something else... .Did Amell or one of the Arrow cast get sacked or something? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 19:35:22 GMT -5
Definetly can't imagin Balor having a 'hissy fit'. Also suprised HHH isn't high on Adrian Neville, I mean, he is the best guy in NXT. Without a doubt.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 20:24:56 GMT -5
Definetly can't imagin Balor having a 'hissy fit'. Also suprised HHH isn't high on Adrian Neville, I mean, he is the best guy in NXT. Without a doubt. Last part is certainly debatable. I'd put him in 4th or 5th. |
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Post by Mr Wrestling Jr. on Feb 14, 2015 21:58:32 GMT -5
And what concrete proof do you have to back that up? What else explains it? LOL!! The fact is this thread is nothing but conjecture. Why Sheamus got pushed is something none of us know for a absolute fact. Being HHH's workout buddy, having a unique look/accent, right place/right time, fits WWE mold....all opinion. Mine just happens to be a mix of all of the above. Sheamus got pushed because he's talented. He's one of the most consistent workers on the entire roster and is ing good at what he does. That's why he was pushed. He is an ABSOLUTE horrid babyface, who got a main event run too early. Consistent worker....check. You wont hear me disagree with you. Stellar worker....uh, no. Wasn't Sheamus or Hunter interviewed a few years ago and were asked if Sheamus was Trip's boy, and they said the only reason people think that is because they worked out together once in Melbourne or somewhere like that? If Sheamus was a Triple H guy, why has he spent the last few years doing nothing of great notice. He won the 2012 Rumble and the World Title, that's about it. Thats it?!?!?! Winning the RR isnt small potatoes. There is 1 winner each year. Agreed.....its like the other dude Reks constantly raking up sh*t on Cena.....time to move on lads. Although I did like their team and would've like to see them get more of a run. So....they should just accept they got ed and move on? They should just accept their dreams of maineventing WM were unjustly stolen from them? PLEASE! Someone says one bad word about CM Punk on WFigs and this forum goes ape crap, but these guys gets ed out of their livelihoods and you say....just move on. Potatoes? Did you say that because Sheamus is Irish xD Anyway to my point after he lost the world title, what has he done? Lost to the SHIELD a few times, tried to be funny and failed, a money in the bank or two, got the United States Title, injured. If he was Triple H's buddy as much as people say he is, I'd think he'd have spent the last few years like Orton. In and out of the WWE Title scene and feuding with upper midcard, main event talents. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Feb 14, 2015 22:43:46 GMT -5
What else explains it? LOL!! The fact is this thread is nothing but conjecture. Why Sheamus got pushed is something none of us know for a absolute fact. Being HHH's workout buddy, having a unique look/accent, right place/right time, fits WWE mold....all opinion. Mine just happens to be a mix of all of the above. He is an ABSOLUTE horrid babyface, who got a main event run too early. Consistent worker....check. You wont hear me disagree with you. Stellar worker....uh, no. Thats it?!?!?! Winning the RR isnt small potatoes. There is 1 winner each year. So....they should just accept they got ed and move on? They should just accept their dreams of maineventing WM were unjustly stolen from them? PLEASE! Someone says one bad word about CM Punk on WFigs and this forum goes ape crap, but these guys gets ed out of their livelihoods and you say....just move on. First off, Sheamus IS a stellar worker. He puts on consistently good to great matches, and is a damn good heel. I'll agree he's not great as a babyface, but in the ring he's one of the best on the main roster. Sheamus damn well deserves the push he's gotten over the years. I get that you don't like Sheamus, but to say he's where he is simply because he's Triple H's buddy is just wrong is so many ways. 2nd, Hawkins and Reks were never going to be main eventing Wrestlemania. Anybody saying otherwise I'm assuming has never seen them work. CM Punk cleared up why he walked out. Hawkins and Reks were released simply because they didn't have any value in keeping them, that and I believe Reks asked for his release, but I might be wrong on that one. As a heel, Sheamus is a great character. I love his unique look. But I do NOT consider him to be stellar. Stellar is Rollins. Stellar is DB. Stellar is Balor. Sheamus is consistent and good, not great. Thats my opinion. It is also my opinion that Sheamus got an early break for his connection to HHH. Hawkins is a great worker. He aint Rollins or Balor, but he is DAMN good. Hawkins bumps and can sell with the best of them. Why do you think he was selected to work with Rock to get Rock ready for his return at WM? Reks is solid. Unique look. Good agility for a big man. Hawkins was released b/c WWE was never going to use him and was paying him a nice contract to sit at home. WWE has released a lot of VERY talented guys before just ask Paul London, Matt Sydal, Chris Hero or even Daniel Bryan. Being super talented isnt enough to keep a job in WWE. Yes, Reks asked for his release. He had grown tired of the BS and had some other business ventures he could work on, while staying home with his daughter and not have to miss her growing up. I dont know for a fact, but things might have been different had Hawkins/Reks were being used better at the time. What else explains it? LOL!! The fact is this thread is nothing but conjecture. Why Sheamus got pushed is something none of us know for a absolute fact. Being HHH's workout buddy, having a unique look/accent, right place/right time, fits WWE mold....all opinion. Mine just happens to be a mix of all of the above. He is an ABSOLUTE horrid babyface, who got a main event run too early. Consistent worker....check. You wont hear me disagree with you. Stellar worker....uh, no. Thats it?!?!?! Winning the RR isnt small potatoes. There is 1 winner each year. So....they should just accept they got ed and move on? They should just accept their dreams of maineventing WM were unjustly stolen from them? PLEASE! Someone says one bad word about CM Punk on WFigs and this forum goes ape crap, but these guys gets ed out of their livelihoods and you say....just move on. Potatoes? Did you say that because Sheamus is Irish xD Anyway to my point after he lost the world title, what has he done? Lost to the SHIELD a few times, tried to be funny and failed, a money in the bank or two, got the United States Title, injured. If he was Triple H's buddy as much as people say he is, I'd think he'd have spent the last few years like Orton. In and out of the WWE Title scene and feuding with upper midcard, main event talents. Ever think that they might not be buds anymore or perhaps HHH just moved onto something else or a number of other things? |
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Post by Brad on Feb 14, 2015 22:50:20 GMT -5
I wouldn't even mind this being true. DeMott: "Are you ing deaf?!?! I SAID GET YOUR ASS OUT THERE!!!" Balor: "Nope." Me either lol |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 22:53:35 GMT -5
First off, Sheamus IS a stellar worker. He puts on consistently good to great matches, and is a damn good heel. I'll agree he's not great as a babyface, but in the ring he's one of the best on the main roster. Sheamus damn well deserves the push he's gotten over the years. I get that you don't like Sheamus, but to say he's where he is simply because he's Triple H's buddy is just wrong is so many ways. 2nd, Hawkins and Reks were never going to be main eventing Wrestlemania. Anybody saying otherwise I'm assuming has never seen them work. CM Punk cleared up why he walked out. Hawkins and Reks were released simply because they didn't have any value in keeping them, that and I believe Reks asked for his release, but I might be wrong on that one. As a heel, Sheamus is a great character. I love his unique look. But I do NOT consider him to be stellar. Stellar is Rollins. Stellar is DB. Stellar is Balor. Sheamus is consistent and good, not great. Thats my opinion. It is also my opinion that Sheamus got an early break for his connection to HHH. Hawkins is a great worker. He aint Rollins or Balor, but he is DAMN good. Hawkins bumps and can sell with the best of them. Why do you think he was selected to work with Rock to get Rock ready for his return at WM? Reks is solid. Unique look. Good agility for a big man. Hawkins was released b/c WWE was never going to use him and was paying him a nice contract to sit at home. WWE has released a lot of VERY talented guys before just ask Paul London, Matt Sydal, Chris Hero or even Daniel Bryan. Being super talented isnt enough to keep a job in WWE. Yes, Reks asked for his release. He had grown tired of the BS and had some other business ventures he could work on, while staying home with his daughter and not have to miss her growing up. I dont know for a fact, but things might have been different had Hawkins/Reks were being used better at the time. Potatoes? Did you say that because Sheamus is Irish xD Anyway to my point after he lost the world title, what has he done? Lost to the SHIELD a few times, tried to be funny and failed, a money in the bank or two, got the United States Title, injured. If he was Triple H's buddy as much as people say he is, I'd think he'd have spent the last few years like Orton. In and out of the WWE Title scene and feuding with upper midcard, main event talents. Ever think that they might not be buds anymore or perhaps HHH just moved onto something else or a number of other things? Great, you have opinions. Good for you. You're entitled to it, even if you have no idea what you're talking about. |
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Post by Starscream on Feb 14, 2015 23:29:37 GMT -5
As a heel, Sheamus is a great character. I love his unique look. But I do NOT consider him to be stellar. Stellar is Rollins. Stellar is DB. Stellar is Balor. Sheamus is consistent and good, not great. Thats my opinion. It is also my opinion that Sheamus got an early break for his connection to HHH. Hawkins is a great worker. He aint Rollins or Balor, but he is DAMN good. Hawkins bumps and can sell with the best of them. Why do you think he was selected to work with Rock to get Rock ready for his return at WM? Reks is solid. Unique look. Good agility for a big man. Hawkins was released b/c WWE was never going to use him and was paying him a nice contract to sit at home. WWE has released a lot of VERY talented guys before just ask Paul London, Matt Sydal, Chris Hero or even Daniel Bryan. Being super talented isnt enough to keep a job in WWE. Yes, Reks asked for his release. He had grown tired of the BS and had some other business ventures he could work on, while staying home with his daughter and not have to miss her growing up. I dont know for a fact, but things might have been different had Hawkins/Reks were being used better at the time. Ever think that they might not be buds anymore or perhaps HHH just moved onto something else or a number of other things? Great, you have opinions. Good for you. You're entitled to it, even if you have no idea what you're talking about. He said what he thinks, leave it at that. Sheamus is not stellar, he never said he sucked. Get over it. No need to be all superior "yeah, you have no idea what you are talking about". |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 23:35:27 GMT -5
Great, you have opinions. Good for you. You're entitled to it, even if you have no idea what you're talking about. He said what he thinks, leave it at that. Sheamus is not stellar, he never said he sucked. Get over it. No need to be all superior "yeah, you have no idea what you are talking about". Not the part I was referring to, try again later. |
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Post by Starscream on Feb 15, 2015 0:03:57 GMT -5
He said what he thinks, leave it at that. Sheamus is not stellar, he never said he sucked. Get over it. No need to be all superior "yeah, you have no idea what you are talking about". Not the part I was referring to, try again later. Good excuse. There are not "other parts", accept it and move on. It's really not that difficult. By all means kindly debate as to why you think the other way because from what I´ ve seen you are always in the middle of the fights around here. Again, there is no need to act superior. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 0:05:19 GMT -5
Not the part I was referring to, try again later. Good excuse. There are not "other parts", accept it and move on. It's really not that difficult. By all means kindly debate as to why you think the other way because from what I´ ve seen you are always in the middle of the fights around here. Again, there is no need to act superior. There were multiple points he made, the one you referred my comment to was not the point of his I was referring to. No, I don't get in a lot of fights, but I do like to discuss topics. There is a difference. Please learn them. |
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