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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Mar 3, 2015 11:44:27 GMT -5
Cringing because I can picture that happening right now. The booking for reigns hasn't ceased to shock me... Okay but still not as cringe as this post.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 11:48:26 GMT -5
Granted I haven't seen the previous Raw, but I thought he was in line for a match with Ziggler or Sheamus? Either way, Cena is facing a mid carder for a tertiary title, and he's still the man. This entire Mania screams of WM11 booking where most of the top guys were booked against midcarders. Bryan's been legitimized now to he point where he won't ever not be a star. Just look at Bret in the 90s, he had feuds with a dentist and a pirate but he was still the #1 guy. And with the exception of WrestleMania XI with Backlund, Bret was never in a bad spot at Mania. It seems like Bryan is going to be shoehorned into the IC Title stuff. While a guy like him, booked right, could bring prestige back to the title, I don't have faith in the booking. He'd win and it would be a prop so Michael Cole can spot off "Bryan has held the IC Title for x amount of days!" Plus, the booking for this multi man ladder match has kind of sucked. Ah well that does sound silly. Though like I said, Bryan is cemented, he's never going to be anything less than a main eventer in the eyes of the fans. If it's a multiman ladder match I don't expect him to win. His injury and not particularly knowing when or if he was going to return is probably what's done him in. Wrestlemania is usually booked a year in advance, if not more.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 3, 2015 11:53:06 GMT -5
And with the exception of WrestleMania XI with Backlund, Bret was never in a bad spot at Mania. It seems like Bryan is going to be shoehorned into the IC Title stuff. While a guy like him, booked right, could bring prestige back to the title, I don't have faith in the booking. He'd win and it would be a prop so Michael Cole can spot off "Bryan has held the IC Title for x amount of days!" Plus, the booking for this multi man ladder match has kind of sucked. Ah well that does sound silly. Though like I said, Bryan is cemented, he's never going to be anything less than a main eventer in the eyes of the fans. If it's a multiman ladder match I don't expect him to win. His injury and not particularly knowing when or if he was going to return is probably what's done him in. Wrestlemania is usually booked a year in advance, if not more. Usually yes, but this Mania seems like all they've had booked in advance was Reigns/Brock, HHH/Sting and maybe Taker/Wyatt. Everything else seems like it's thrown together and rushed. It's the same feeling I got last year. Also, I expect Ambrose to win the IC TItle. I mean...he has to win a PPV match at least once right?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 11:53:23 GMT -5
Cringing because I can picture that happening right now. The booking for reigns hasn't ceased to shock me... Okay but still not as cringe as this post. Don't feed the trolls man.....
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Post by Zigzag on Mar 3, 2015 11:54:03 GMT -5
If anything, I think if Rollins cashes in and wins (which I want to have happen), Rollins' heel heat will be extinguished and he'll be forced into a babyface position.
Interesting to hear all the WM 11 comparisons. That was my first WM in person. I hope and look forward to Bryan participating in the IC title match, and hopefully winning the belt. He may have fallen from where he was a year ago, but as long as it keeps him far away from Sheamus, I'm good. Saw that one in person the first time, too...No thanks. As a top guy according to fans, if anyone can bring the title back to prestige, it's Bryan. Here's hoping.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Mar 3, 2015 11:54:33 GMT -5
Lack of heels, too. They could've had Bryan vs Rollins as a WrestleMania match, but Orton vs Rollins was already set up as a story (albeit one that could've happened at Fastlane).
Here's some Daniel Bryan fantasy booking. Bryan returns for an advertised promo at the Royal Rumble (rather than in the match), and the next night, Seth Rollins curbstomps him. Rollins is going for another curbstomp, but Randy Orton makes his return and chases Rollins off. Orton vs Rollins is the Fastlane match. Night after Fastlane, Bryan comes back and brawls with Rollins and says he's cleared to compete.
Of course, then the Fastlane main event would have been Roman Reigns vs Big Show or something. And Orton would probably end up fighting Kane at WrestleMania.
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Post by punksnotdead on Mar 3, 2015 11:55:26 GMT -5
It only works if he tries to cash in and someone interferes and makes him lose. I wouldn't be against it, it'd give Rollins plenty to b*tch about for the foreseeable future.But when he cashes in, he'll win. The only scenario in which I think that would work is if Ambrose did a run-in to stop Rollins. Even then, I have a very that mentality about the entire idea of a failed cash-in. As if they haven't done enough for Reigns already.
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Post by McBlake on Mar 3, 2015 11:58:46 GMT -5
I don't know about him losing or not but... A cash-in at Wrestlemania needs to happen as its never been done before. To add, a Money In The Bank cash-in would be a big deal since this is the tenth anniversary of the first MITB ladder match. Good point actually.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 12:02:28 GMT -5
Ah well that does sound silly. Though like I said, Bryan is cemented, he's never going to be anything less than a main eventer in the eyes of the fans. If it's a multiman ladder match I don't expect him to win. His injury and not particularly knowing when or if he was going to return is probably what's done him in. Wrestlemania is usually booked a year in advance, if not more. Usually yes, but this Mania seems like all they've had booked in advance was Reigns/Brock, HHH/Sting and maybe Taker/Wyatt. Everything else seems like it's thrown together and rushed. It's the same feeling I got last year. Also, I expect Ambrose to win the IC TItle. I mean...he has to win a PPV match at least once right? Yeah I think it's probably a real lack of heels like Next Manufactured’s Sweater said. Rollins and Lesnar are the only legit main event heels at the moment (apart from... gulp... Big Show and Kane), and the up and coming mid card heels (Rusev and Wyatt) are all tied up too. The best thing would have been heel Ziggler, or heel Sheamus vs. Bryan. There's no need right now for Ziggler to be a face, plus he was a better heel IMO. EDIT: Jericho as a heel vs. Bryan would have been a good idea too.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 3, 2015 12:04:13 GMT -5
Lack of heels, too. They could've had Bryan vs Rollins as a WrestleMania match, but Orton vs Rollins was already set up as a story (albeit one that could've happened at Fastlane). Here's some Daniel Bryan fantasy booking. Bryan returns for an advertised promo at the Royal Rumble (rather than in the match), and the next night, Seth Rollins curbstomps him. Rollins is going for another curbstomp, but Randy Orton makes his return and chases Rollins off. Orton vs Rollins is the Fastlane match. Night after Fastlane, Bryan comes back and brawls with Rollins and says he's cleared to compete. Of course, then the Fastlane main event would have been Roman Reigns vs Big Show or something. And Orton would probably end up fighting Kane at WrestleMania. Cena vs. Rusev could have gone on last. The US Title being in the main event could be a big deal for it and I'd like to see the midcard belts main event with Brock gone.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Mar 3, 2015 12:51:02 GMT -5
It only works if he tries to cash in and someone interferes and makes him lose. I wouldn't be against it, it'd give Rollins plenty to b*tch about for the foreseeable future.But when he cashes in, he'll win. The only scenario in which I think that would work is if Ambrose did a run-in to stop Rollins. Even then, I have a very that mentality about the entire idea of a failed cash-in. As if they haven't done enough for Reigns already. Rollins is so talented, there's a lot of ways he can look good win or lose. Personally, I'd have him cash in mid-match at WM and pin Lesnar. It'd give Reigns an actual storyline post-WM and it makes Rollins out to be the ultimate opportunist.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 13:18:41 GMT -5
The only scenario in which I think that would work is if Ambrose did a run-in to stop Rollins. Even then, I have a very that mentality about the entire idea of a failed cash-in. As if they haven't done enough for Reigns already. Rollins is so talented, there's a lot of ways he can look good win or lose. Personally, I'd have him cash in mid-match at WM and pin Lesnar. It'd give Reigns an actual storyline post-WM and it makes Rollins out to be the ultimate opportunist. I'd love this. It's something new with the money in the bank contract and could lead to a nice Summerslam feud, maybe add a stipulation to it.
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Post by iamkrang on Mar 3, 2015 13:36:34 GMT -5
I am rooting for him to cash and win it really. WM has the possibility of ending with boos if Reigns wins and I doubt WWE would want that. The crowd should go crazy if Rollins wins, experiencing a cash in is an awesome experience I'd imagine. It is. I saw Edge cash in after a cage match between Undertaker and Batista after Wrestlemania on Smackdown. It was even cooler because I saw Undertaker win the title at Wrestlemania that year. It was neat to see the beginning and end of a title reign.
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Post by Darkhawk on Mar 3, 2015 13:55:06 GMT -5
I'm pretty much with everybody in terms of wanting to see someone cash in at Wrestlemania.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 14:04:58 GMT -5
I DVR'ed Raw last night, and only got through the first segment where Reigns stumbled over his words and Seth looked like the star of the show.
With the real life heat between Lesnar and Vince right now I see Rollins being worked into the main event, sort of like an insurance policy.
Reigns pins Rollins for the win, Lesnar kicks Reigns ass after the bell, Rollins cashes in. That way, Reigns gets his victory, Lesnar looks strong, and Seth leaves as champion. Everyone goes home happy.
The best part of my scenario is that we all get treated to Rollins vs Bryan for the title after Mania. It's a perfect world!!!
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Mar 3, 2015 14:06:53 GMT -5
If Rollins cashes in and loses, it will be a huuuuge mistake. He's more ready to be WWE Champion than the guy who is GOING to be the new Champion, Roman Reigns.
But Vince McMahon is obsessed with Roman, so it's going to happen no matter how many fans Vince has to piss off, or how man other people need to get buried in the process.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Mar 3, 2015 16:23:18 GMT -5
If Rollins cashes in and loses, it will be a huuuuge mistake. He's more ready to be WWE Champion than the guy who is GOING to be the new Champion, Roman Reigns. But Vince McMahon is obsessed with Roman, so it's going to happen no matter how many fans Vince has to piss off, or how man other people need to get buried in the process. While I don't agree on many of your posts but this I can really sink my teeth into. I agree when Seth Rollins cashes in, he should be the champion. As for Roman Reigns, I have to feel bad for him. He has been placed into a tough spot that he isn't sure whether of not he is going to sink or swim. Since Roman Reigns is going to be anointed as their next mega star, the IWC in general has to face facts. Reigns is going to give the WWE the longevity the company is looking for. Daniel Bryan has about 3-5 years left. The WWE is looking for guys in their late-20's to their early-30's. Bryan doesn't fall into that category. I wished more and more people accept that Reigns is going to be anointed as their next main star, not Daniel Bryan.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 17:45:43 GMT -5
If Rollins cashes in and loses, it will be a huuuuge mistake. He's more ready to be WWE Champion than the guy who is GOING to be the new Champion, Roman Reigns. But Vince McMahon is obsessed with Roman, so it's going to happen no matter how many fans Vince has to piss off, or how man other people need to get buried in the process. While I don't agree on many of your posts but this I can really sink my teeth into. I agree when Seth Rollins cashes in, he should be the champion. As for Roman Reigns, I have to feel bad for him. He has been placed into a tough spot that he isn't sure whether of not he is going to sink or swim. Since Roman Reigns is going to be anointed as their next mega star, the IWC in general has to face facts. Reigns is going to give the WWE the longevity the company is looking for. Daniel Bryan has about 3-5 years left. The WWE is looking for guys in their late-20's to their early-30's. Bryan doesn't fall into that category. I wished more and more people accept that Reigns is going to be anointed as their next main star, not Daniel Bryan. People do accept that. People also say he's not ready for it yet. Keyword is yet.
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Post by BROKEN on Mar 3, 2015 17:50:38 GMT -5
Brock should keep the belt
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Mar 3, 2015 18:18:34 GMT -5
While I don't agree on many of your posts but this I can really sink my teeth into. I agree when Seth Rollins cashes in, he should be the champion. As for Roman Reigns, I have to feel bad for him. He has been placed into a tough spot that he isn't sure whether of not he is going to sink or swim. Since Roman Reigns is going to be anointed as their next mega star, the IWC in general has to face facts. Reigns is going to give the WWE the longevity the company is looking for. Daniel Bryan has about 3-5 years left. The WWE is looking for guys in their late-20's to their early-30's. Bryan doesn't fall into that category. I wished more and more people accept that Reigns is going to be anointed as their next main star, not Daniel Bryan. People do accept that. People also say he's not ready for it yet. Keyword is yet. I am with you. As Triple H alluded to on Steve Austin's podcast, nobody is ever 100% ready for that top spot. I am willing to give Roman Reigns a chance. Daniel Bryan can be used as those mechanic type workers who can make guys Roman Reigns look good and strong. Bryan doesn't need to be in the main event. He is one of those guys people would take to and see why he is there. Bryan gave Reigns his best singles match. I wouldn't mind seeing them feud for the WWE Championship in the future. One thing people would like about that is it is a fresh main event for the championship.
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