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Post by Robert69 on Mar 4, 2015 19:46:21 GMT -5
dude! I'm saying he is wrong if he thinks we don't understand how it works. That's literally what I said in my post! I did let say it's his fault Bryan is not main eventing . Right, and...you're wrong. Let the IWC book Wrestlemania, and you'll have one of the worst and poorly booked shows of all time. Triple H is not wrong in saying that the internet doesn't know crap about the business. 98% of the IWC knows absolutely nothing. For example, you're pissed that Bryan isn't in the main event. That's fair, but are you against them trying to propel a new star for the future? Bryan is not the future, he's a short term guy. That neck injury was bad and it won't hold up forever. Reigns, as much as I don't think he should main event this year, is a guy that can be on top for years to come and is still improving. What's best for business is to invest in the guy you know is going to be around awhile. Bryan could take a bad bump tomorrow and re-injure that neck. Granted, it makes putting him in the ladder match (if they do) even more questionable, but so be it. Reigns is a guy that can be a top guy for nearly a decade going forward, maybe more. Bryan has maybe 2-4 years left before I assume that neck injury flares up and forces him to retire. Not to mention, Bryan wasn't even expected back until late February. He was probably slotted to be in a quick feud and light up the show at Wrestlemania, had they waited on his return, you would not be saying any of this. By the time he came back, the plans were set. They assumed he was going to be out longer (rightfully so I'd say), so the plans went ahead without him. It's not rocket science. Don't bring your logic around here, Palmer!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 19:46:48 GMT -5
Funny, everyone will cry about how the IC title and US title should mean more, and then they start making them mean something and you guys cry because the person going for it isn't who you want. Newsflash! If Daniel Bryan competes for the IC title, it makes the IC title look like something that someone like Daniel Bryan would want. It makes the title valuable. Yep. I'd rather it be with less guys in it, so that whoever wins it looks better for going over in a match that involved Bryan. Slight bump, but gives credibility to the belt and the guy who wins it.
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Post by Hulk Who? on Mar 4, 2015 19:48:31 GMT -5
Yea HHH isn't in charge overall but Imagine Vince is your father in law, then imagine what he did for you, and the position you're in if you think Vince is slipping. Then you have to deal with injuries, contracts, part timers that have real appeal, running NXT etc. I know its difficult, Roman Reigns aside. The business is a big unwieldy mess now, not like running 4 PPVs a year. It's not rocket science, but it's still a nightmare in terms of logistics and a lot of other things. It would be fun to talk to them, but I would NEVER want to run that company. I would have been counting on Kurt and Brock for the next 10 years in 2003.
Isn't Seth Rollins HHH's guy? That's been great if he is, sure didn't get hurt by that pic leak, he went straight into a big spot with Jon Stewart.
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Post by Charlie f'n Kelly on Mar 4, 2015 19:50:12 GMT -5
Funny, everyone will cry about how the IC title and US title should mean more, and then they start making them mean something and you guys cry because the person going for it isn't who you want. Newsflash! If Daniel Bryan competes for the IC title, it makes the IC title look like something that someone like Daniel Bryan would want. It makes the title valuable. Yep. I'd rather it be with less guys in it, so that whoever wins it looks better for going over in a match that involved Bryan. Slight bump, but gives credibility to the belt and the guy who wins it. Honestly, my ONLY two problems with the match is: 1. R-Truth being in it. 2. Everyone stealing the title for no reason, it made sense when Dean did it, now everyone's doing it with no sort of explanation. I honestly was sitting at home Monday getting furious every time someone new grabbed the title.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 19:51:24 GMT -5
Yep. I'd rather it be with less guys in it, so that whoever wins it looks better for going over in a match that involved Bryan. Slight bump, but gives credibility to the belt and the guy who wins it. Honestly, my ONLY two problems with the match is: 1. R-Truth being in it. 2. Everyone stealing the title for no reason, it made sense when Dean did it, now everyone's doing it with no sort of explanation. I honestly was sitting at home Monday getting furious every time someone new grabbed the title. I don't get why Truth is there either. I was a fan of Dean stealing the title at Fast Lane to hold it hostage into a match, but yeah I agree, everybody stealing it is making it seem more like the Hardcore title and less like one held by Randy Savage.
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Post by Charlie f'n Kelly on Mar 4, 2015 19:53:32 GMT -5
Yea HHH isn't in charge overall but Imagine Vince is your father in law, then imagine what he did for you, and the position you're in if you think Vince is slipping. Then you have to deal with injuries, contracts, part timers that have real appeal, running NXT etc. I know its difficult, Roman Reigns aside. The business is a big unwieldy mess now, not like running 4 PPVs a year. It's not rocket science, but it's still a nightmare in terms of logistics and a lot of other things. It would be fun to talk to them, but I would NEVER want to run that company. I would have been counting on Kurt and Brock for the next 10 years in 2003. Isn't Seth Rollins HHH's guy? That's been great if he is, sure didn't get hurt by that pic leak, he went straight into a big spot with Jon Stewart. I honestly don't even think that hurt Seth Rollins. The segment was great and helped build Seth vs Randy at Mania. It didn't hurt Seth at all, Jon pointed out bad things about Seth, but it was just bullet points on what Seth Rollin's current character is, and the kick to the nuts didn't hurt HIS IMAGE because he was distracted and it's not like a kick to the nuts wouldn't hurt someone else, it's not like they had Seth job to Jon.
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Post by RKOrton #ThankYouLesnar on Mar 4, 2015 19:53:44 GMT -5
Am I his friend? It's a figure of speech my friend lol! I hope you don't take everything literal in everyday life. Wow for a mod your pretty petty Lol!!!
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Post by HHH316 on Mar 4, 2015 19:56:04 GMT -5
People getting pissy about HHH again? Hmm, seems like things are getting back to normal around here.
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Post by Charlie f'n Kelly on Mar 4, 2015 19:56:32 GMT -5
Honestly, my ONLY two problems with the match is: 1. R-Truth being in it. 2. Everyone stealing the title for no reason, it made sense when Dean did it, now everyone's doing it with no sort of explanation. I honestly was sitting at home Monday getting furious every time someone new grabbed the title. I don't get why Truth is there either. I was a fan of Dean stealing the title at Fast Lane to hold it hostage into a match, but yeah I agree, everybody stealing it is making it seem more like the Hardcore title and less like one held by Randy Savage. Well, Dean's explanation for stealing it made sense, and I considered him the IC champion. He said Barrett doesn't defend it and when he does, he ties to run away from the match and gets himself DQ'ed and he said he didn't lose the match because he's the one who beat Barrett and he was the one to walk out and stand tall. What I would of done is had guys like Ziggler, lets say, challenge Dean for the IC title at Mania after a Barrett match and have Barrett yelling about how he's the champion and Dolph should be challenging him. And than make that lead into a multi man Ladder match.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 19:58:40 GMT -5
I think it's awesome when HHH makes references to the IWC. It makes me feel like maybe he has read something I've posted. I wonder what boards he reads.
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Post by Robert69 on Mar 4, 2015 19:59:16 GMT -5
As Palmer said, D Bry doesn't have longevity. Did you see the bumps he took with Harper on Monday? He can't do those for 5 more years. That's about his shelf life. I'll give him 5 more years.
Now we have Reigns, Rollins, Ambrose, Ziggler, Wyatt, Barrett, and a whole list of young talent, not even counting the guys in NXT that'll be headlining soon enough...
How many of those guys on the roster do people see doing Make A Wish visits? Doing the toy sales? Basically doing all the stuff Cena does? Do you really want Bray Wyatt on Toys R Us commercials? And Ambrose/Rollins playing WWE action figures back stage? Can you see Rollins smiling with a make a wish kid now, without not thinking of his d**k pic?
Reigns is tailor made to sell to the kiddies, and the women. He has a surprisingly HUGE following. You only need to look at Twitter/Facebook to see this. So let him be marketed for that. Why can't we just be happy someone NEW is being built up?
Everyone has their place. Reigns' place is in the WM main event this year. Should he be there? Arguable. Should we be happy he's there? I think yes, because why the hell NOT? At worst it's a bad match, and he needs more work. Lesnar breaks him in half, he's retired, and some people get what they want, anyways. At best? We get a great feud moving forward with Reigns/Rollins, two guys who should be headlining WM/WWE with those others I mentioned, and Balor/Owens/Zayn for a good 10-20 years moving forward. This is a GOOD thing, long term. But nobody wants to trust WWE may possibly know what they're doing. And that's exactly what HHH was pointing out.
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Post by johnnyb on Mar 4, 2015 20:02:02 GMT -5
Dude, Obviously HHH knows the concept of pushing the top guy but the fact WWE refuses to do it is insane to me. Yes Hunter is doing a great job with NXT but NXT is not the WWE main roster and that is where the issue is. Triple H doesn't run the main roster, it's only his character on TV... Yeah, he has a say, but so does everyone, Vince is the one running it. Why do you think WWE started to fail in the 90's? Because Vince doesn't know anything about wrestling outside of the Hulk Hogan era. ![](http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/edzorn/AttitudeEraWWF.jpg)
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Post by Charlie f'n Kelly on Mar 4, 2015 20:07:02 GMT -5
Triple H doesn't run the main roster, it's only his character on TV... Yeah, he has a say, but so does everyone, Vince is the one running it. Why do you think WWE started to fail in the 90's? Because Vince doesn't know anything about wrestling outside of the Hulk Hogan era. ![](http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo114/edzorn/AttitudeEraWWF.jpg) lol this guy thinks the attitude era was the only thing that happened in the 90's.
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Post by dakis on Mar 4, 2015 20:14:45 GMT -5
The very fact that you posted this means he did his job as a "heel." He touched a nerve. His character and his actual self are 2 very different people. Also he's not the booker. Last raw wasn't great but i see some improvements. I'm going to watch regardless whether I like the angles or not.
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Post by Midnight on Mar 4, 2015 20:18:57 GMT -5
I love when Triple H takes a shot at the Internet Wrestling Community. He's right people can pretend they know the wrestling business but H knows way more and is actually involved in the business. #Fact
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 20:36:10 GMT -5
"Reality" is the new Kafaybe. I thought that was obvious.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 20:54:07 GMT -5
Dude, Obviously HHH knows the concept of pushing the top guy but the fact WWE refuses to do it is insane to me. Yes Hunter is doing a great job with NXT but NXT is not the WWE main roster and that is where the issue is. Triple H doesn't run the main roster, it's only his character on TV... Yeah, he has a say, but so does everyone, Vince is the one running it. Why do you think WWE started to fail in the 90's? Because Vince doesn't know anything about wrestling outside of the Hulk Hogan era. If Hogan didn't have a metal rod in his back right now, he'd probably be WWE Champion
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Post by BROKEN on Mar 4, 2015 20:55:45 GMT -5
I would like to thank hhh for signing steen
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Post by johnnyb on Mar 4, 2015 20:56:43 GMT -5
lol this guy thinks the attitude era was the only thing that happened in the 90's. It was literally less than a two year stretch, between 1984 and today, where the WWF/WWE was not the #1 wrestling company in the world. I think you greatly exaggerate when you say "Vince doesn't know anything about wrestling outside of the Hulk Hogan era." That is just a ridiculous statement.
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Post by Chief on Mar 4, 2015 21:00:10 GMT -5
The hardcore wrestling fan base is just a fraction of their audience.
They have always catered to the casual fan.
The WWE knows how to book good wrestling because they've done it in the past.
The only difference between now and then is that there was an overlap between what they wanted to book and what the hardcore wrestling fan base wanted to see.
And to be completely honest I highly doubt booking a global wrestling and entertainment promotion is as easy as people like to say it is. There are millions upon millions things you need to juggle.
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