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Post by Robert69 on Mar 13, 2015 19:50:49 GMT -5
Youse, Y'all, You All etc. The attitude the board in general takes to Roman Reigns is remarkably bad. He said in his interview a lot of valid stuff but people still jumped onto him acting as if he had insulted Jesus. He's doing his best to improve, and to try to get a better public image, but fans like those in this thread continue to treat him terribly for that. I meant it as a joke. But, the only thing equal to the blind Roman Reigns hate is the high horse stance people on the other side take. I'm too short to get on a high horse... :/ And I'm now counting down until this gets locked. It's going down that road real quick.
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Post by Planktung on Mar 13, 2015 19:51:16 GMT -5
People can like Reigns People can dislike Reings It's really that simple. People who like Roman Reigns will: - Say they like him. - Defend him when he's getting unnecessarily bad feedback. People who dislike Roman Reigns will: - Discredit everything he says. - Act as if everything he says is a joke. - Never realise he's improving. - Continue to say they're being rational then make a ton of crapty jokes at his expense. - Have a snarky undertone of "You like Roman Reigns? Really?" The people who like Roman have just as much of a snarky undertone. You glorified that section of people tremendously.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 13, 2015 19:54:20 GMT -5
I meant it as a joke. But, the only thing equal to the blind Roman Reigns hate is the high horse stance people on the other side take. I'm too short to get on a high horse... :/ And I'm now counting down until this gets locked. It's going down that road real quick. You're one of the only Reigns supporters that I can have a real conversation with. No snarky comments or high horse statements.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 19:54:46 GMT -5
All you're doing is proving my point.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 19:57:33 GMT -5
Youse, Y'all, You All etc. The attitude the board in general takes to Roman Reigns is remarkably bad. He said in his interview a lot of valid stuff but people still jumped onto him acting as if he had insulted Jesus. He's doing his best to improve, and to try to get a better public image, but fans like those in this thread continue to treat him terribly for that. I meant it as a joke. But, the only thing equal to the blind Roman Reigns hate is the high horse stance people on the other side take. Yeah, I hate those snarky Roman Reigns supporters like... Who? #RoadToRomanaia? W? robert69? NMS? The last one has been a little upfront in the past but he doesn't go on the board near as much and almost never takes part in Roman Reigns threads.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 20:01:50 GMT -5
All you're doing is proving my point. I really don't care dude.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 13, 2015 20:02:23 GMT -5
I meant it as a joke. But, the only thing equal to the blind Roman Reigns hate is the high horse stance people on the other side take. Yeah, I hate those snarky Roman Reigns supporters like... Who? #RoadToRomanaia? W? robert69? NMS? The last one has been a little upfront in the past but he doesn't go on the board near as much and almost never takes part in Roman Reigns threads. You've done it. Robert69 and W are easy to have REAL conversations about the topic with. #RoadtoRomania says a lot of things I disagree with but isn't snarky. So you sometimes and definitely NMS when he's around. It's his gimmick and all he's got. I admit there are more on the Reigns hate side but they are more angry than snarky. Regardless, it's absurd for you to play like that side is innocent.
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Post by Robert69 on Mar 13, 2015 20:02:54 GMT -5
I meant it as a joke. But, the only thing equal to the blind Roman Reigns hate is the high horse stance people on the other side take. Yeah, I hate those snarky Roman Reigns supporters like... Who? #RoadToRomanaia? W? robert69? NMS? The last one has been a little upfront in the past but he doesn't go on the board near as much and almost never takes part in Roman Reigns threads. To be COMPLETELY fair, a lot of the 'newer' members that get on here and support Reigns can get kind of crappy about it. Even I find it annoying when 2 Stars McGee is like "YAY ROMAN SHUT UP HATAS!!!" on the RAW thread weekly. You know who Reigns is? He compared himself to Pitt. No. Roman, you're Ben Affleck. Through and through. Right now you're Mallrats/Reindeer Games/Daredevil Ben Affleck. Once in a while people see a glimmer of potential (like Mallrats, or Good Will Hunting) -- but mostly everyone is like "The only reason you matter is because someone else wants you to matter"...patience, bro. You'll be Argo Affleck one day.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 20:04:58 GMT -5
Yeah, I hate those snarky Roman Reigns supporters like... Who? #RoadToRomanaia? W? robert69? NMS? The last one has been a little upfront in the past but he doesn't go on the board near as much and almost never takes part in Roman Reigns threads. You've done it. Robert69 and W are easy to have REAL conversations about the topic with. #RoadtoRomania says a lot of things I disagree with but isn't snarky. So you sometimes and definitely NMS when he's around. It's his gimmick and all he's got. I admit there are more on the Reigns hate side but they are more angry than snarky. Regardless, it's absurd for you to play like that side is innocent. Mother er acting as if I proclaim Roman Reigns as the new son of God. I don't even like him!! NMS hasn't been on the board in 10 days now yet you still continue to make jokes at his expense. Says something, don't it...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 20:07:34 GMT -5
Anyways, I like Reigns but his attitude reminds me a lot of a young Batista.
My work here is done, to the Bartcave!
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 13, 2015 20:07:46 GMT -5
You've done it. Robert69 and W are easy to have REAL conversations about the topic with. #RoadtoRomania says a lot of things I disagree with but isn't snarky. So you sometimes and definitely NMS when he's around. It's his gimmick and all he's got. I admit there are more on the Reigns hate side but they are more angry than snarky. Regardless, it's absurd for you to play like that side is innocent. Mother er acting as if I proclaim Roman Reigns as the new son of God. I don't even like him!! NMS hasn't been on the board in 10 days now yet you still continue to make jokes at his expense. Says something, don't it... I've never said you act like hes Jesus. You don't act like that. You say snarky comments about people disliking Reigns. You and NMS get off on it and I guess I get off at making jabs at his expense. Again, im not playing innocent like you. Says something, don't it?
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Post by Joey Cush on Mar 13, 2015 20:09:42 GMT -5
Not a big fan of Reigns. I like what he brings to the table but I just do not buy into what he is selling right now. It's a shame because if he was in the mid card right now, he would be pretty much on fire doing well for himself. He just has no back story to make me believe he can be a consistent main eventer.
Tally that up with the obvious forcing down our throats, its a recipe for disaster. I hope this doesnt hurt his career towards the future, which I can see it going down that road if they dont change things up for him. The crowd loved Cena at first when he won the WWE Championship but they grew tired of his usual sh*t. Roman hasnt even won it yet and the crowd is giving him crap.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 20:10:01 GMT -5
Mother er acting as if I proclaim Roman Reigns as the new son of God. I don't even like him!! NMS hasn't been on the board in 10 days now yet you still continue to make jokes at his expense. Says something, don't it... I've never said you act like hes Jesus. You don't act like that. You say snarky comments about people disliking Reigns. You and NMS get off on it and I guess I get off at making jabs at his expense. Again, im not playing innocent like you. Says something, don't it? I may sometimes be a little bit "exuberant" when it comes to talking about Roman Reigns haters. But this is maybe the third time I've talked out against it, you make jokes at his expense every single thread about him, countless amounts in banter and I'm sure lots of times in the Raw thread. Says something, ain't it?
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Post by Mr Angry Cena on Mar 13, 2015 20:15:35 GMT -5
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 13, 2015 20:16:27 GMT -5
I've never said you act like hes Jesus. You don't act like that. You say snarky comments about people disliking Reigns. You and NMS get off on it and I guess I get off at making jabs at his expense. Again, im not playing innocent like you. Says something, don't it? I may sometimes be a little bit "exuberant" when it comes to talking about Roman Reigns haters. But this is maybe the third time I've talked out against it, you make jokes at his expense every single thread about him, countless amounts in banter and I'm sure lots of times in the Raw thread. Says something, ain't it? And again, I admit it's not cool. I admit that I can be an ass. Not a little "exuberant". I'm beyond tired of his act and I dont let that go. Yes, I'm guilty. I admit it. You seem to not be able to grasp that concept. This is off topic though and has become personal. We don't like things that the other guy does. Thats fine. On topic, I don't hate Roman Reigns blindly. I like him but his recent booking has sucked and turned me against him. Not just because hes getting pushed hard but the cheesy promos and poorly booked matches against Big Show, Kane and Seth have hurt.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 20:20:50 GMT -5
I may sometimes be a little bit "exuberant" when it comes to talking about Roman Reigns haters. But this is maybe the third time I've talked out against it, you make jokes at his expense every single thread about him, countless amounts in banter and I'm sure lots of times in the Raw thread. Says something, ain't it? And again, I admit it's not cool. I admit that I can be an ass. Not a little "exuberant". I'm beyond tired of his act and I dont let that go. Yes, I'm guilty. I admit it. You seem to not be able to grasp that concept. This is off topic though and has become personal. We don't like things that the other guy does. Thats fine. On topic, I don't hate Roman Reigns blindly. I like him but his recent booking has sucked and turned me against him. Not just because hes getting pushed hard but the cheesy promos and poorly booked matches against Big Show, Kane and Seth have hurt. It's not as if our talk hasn't added to the thread. It was more of a discussion than the continual busting of Roman Reigns' proverbial chops.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 13, 2015 20:24:59 GMT -5
And again, I admit it's not cool. I admit that I can be an ass. Not a little "exuberant". I'm beyond tired of his act and I dont let that go. Yes, I'm guilty. I admit it. You seem to not be able to grasp that concept. This is off topic though and has become personal. We don't like things that the other guy does. Thats fine. On topic, I don't hate Roman Reigns blindly. I like him but his recent booking has sucked and turned me against him. Not just because hes getting pushed hard but the cheesy promos and poorly booked matches against Big Show, Kane and Seth have hurt. It's not as if our talk hasn't added to the thread. It was more of a discussion than the continual busting of Roman Reigns' proverbial chops. True. It just seemed like it was gonna go down a bad road and I wanted to avoid that.
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Post by Robert69 on Mar 13, 2015 20:33:57 GMT -5
Yayyyyyyy we're all friends, again!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 20:39:41 GMT -5
Roman will be fine.When he does win the title at Mania(unless seth cashes in that same night)he has a great group of guys he can work with for the next few months there's really nothing to worry about.I wish some people would just not take this whole thing so seriously.Don't worry bryan,seth are all eventually gonna win they will be fine.Who cares if its not at WM summerslam is just as important as WM too so there's always that to look forward to as well.
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Post by Hulk Who? on Mar 13, 2015 21:10:16 GMT -5
this is what the Reigns "supporters" don't seem to understand... That's EXACTLY why we are booing the guy and crapting all over his push. In fact I'd go out on a limb saying that MOST of the people who are booing Reigns and using the internet to vent on how boring his push is actually like Reigns and have no problems with him being a star. It's about the fact that this company is taking "superman" to an entirely new level with this guy and nobody is buying it, it's because the WWE is going OUT OF THEIR WAY to make this guy look like a million bucks while about a dozen others who work harder and who are just flat out better overall at everything (besides being samoan and being strong) are getting crap on, on a weekly basis by the very same company. The fact that most live crowds go NUTS for Dolph Ziggler, his t-shirts are everywhere, his merch flys, he's got a crap ton of twitter followers....and yet he consistently jobs out, gets made to look like a fool, has ONE big moment (SS main event) and then literally does NOTHING afterwards....hell, the way the commentators talked about that SS match it was like a second thought, second rate, "oh bTW" thing....but Reigns does one spear and its "OMG LOOK AT THE POWER OF ROOOOOMAN REIGNS! HE'S AMAZING!!!!" and Ziggler's just ONE example No, I get what you're saying, but you can't disagree that there are more than a few people who act like Roman Reigns' is going to steal their first born child. It's blown out of proportion for some people, and that's what he's saying here. It's a Production. "Did Brad Pitt deserve to play Achilles?" -- Gary Oldman is a better, more consistent actor. Should he have been Achilles instead? How about Denzel? RDJ? They're all reasonably 'better' actors. Some of which have been working longer. As I said, it's a reasonable argument. In 6 months, someone else will be champion, or challenging for the belt, and when Reigns/Ziggler headlines a PPV, people will be complaining that it's not Ambrose, or Bryan, etc. Some people are simply NEVER happy. It's scripted acting. It's make believe. It's a TV show. He's an actor; one of many. Whether or not he 'deserves' the WWEWHC is tantamount to arguing over who should have ended up with Buffy at the end of BtVS. I stick with Spike, but I understand arguments for Xander, and Angel. Hell, you could even make an argument for Faith. Just like Rollins, Ambrose, or Bryan. They're actors. I don't think thats exactly accurate because of the differences between acting, modeling, athletics and then wrestling. Wrestling is a hybrid bastard form sort of neither here nor there, part modeling, part acting, part athletics. Their product is also a live performance and a movie of the performance. Brad Pitt was the much better choice for Achilles as a model than Gary Oldman, Denzel and RDJ, WAY better. Brad Pitt is the perfect example of how movies are for models and the theater is for actors, he doesn't have to give a performance, it's little actions caught on film cobbled together, that is modeling work. This becomes painfully clear in Bresson movies, never used actors and his movies are 10x almost every single other movie. Malick shot a lot of his actors like models and some were pissed about it, like Plummer in the New World. In that case, Plummer has no idea what he's talking about and should just be grateful he gets to work with Malick. At a play, movie, or athletic event the audiences response has nothing to do with with how things play out, that is not the case with wrestling, and it's one of the big draws they have that they've become hostile towards. They trained the audience to hate the WWE as an evil authority since McMahon, the heat is on the company not a wrestler, and now they're punishing the fans for cheering the insurgent against the evil corporation? They did this to themselves, pretty weird stuff. I'm not much of a Bryan fan either, I like him but I don't think he's the greatest thing ever, I like Brock and Seth more. And blah blah blah, still looking forward to Mania. These thoughts aren't sorted out well btw, kind of a mess I just wrote. I found Cornette talking about some of the problems and it was a pretty good little talk, not sure where to put it but it's worth listening to.
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