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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 7:12:31 GMT -5
I Honestly don't understand why they are getting booed or getting the you suck chants.I'm not talking about just last night's raw but still.Some people say they are "Cheesy" but whos to say Damien Mizdow isn't "cheesy" or bo Dallas(gimmick wise) isn't cheesy?.It's still Kofi Kingston,Big E and Xavier Woods 3 very talented men that could go in the ring and its a damn shame they are getting treated the way they are.Great Tag Team Too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 7:17:40 GMT -5
"Do it for the day"
"I ain't gonna do it"
That is cheesy.
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Post by The Future on Mar 31, 2015 7:23:24 GMT -5
It's not that they're cheesy, it's that we have no reason whatsoever to invest in them. Mizdow, we've gotten behind because he's been pushed, bullied and dominated by an overbearing Miz. Bo Dallas actually, you know, says stuff and gets under people's skin. He's almost a Kurt-Angleish figure.
New Day? I know nothing about them other than 'they're positive!' and they act like Baptist preachers. I really enjoyed Big E and Woods in NXT. They had personality. Big E had it when he was with Dolph and AJ. Kofi had it for a little bit, but he lost it somewhere. They need some impetus to push the fans to give a damn. They need to turn heel or invest in an actual sense of character. I love all three as in-ring workers, but as storytellers and 'Superstars' they're blander than their theme song and catchphrase of the DAMN NAME OF THEIR STABLE. Even their damn slogan is lazily booked.
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Post by T R W on Mar 31, 2015 7:25:15 GMT -5
Mostly because we know nothing about them at all except that they like to dance and clap and shout. That's it. They have had zero character development, and we are left with what we have gotten which is nothing. We don't know why they do what they do, who they are, why they do it, or what their purpose is. They come across as generic, corny, dancing jobbers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 7:38:47 GMT -5
It's not that they're cheesy, it's that we have no reason whatsoever to invest in them. Mizdow, we've gotten behind because he's been pushed, bullied and dominated by an overbearing Miz. Bo Dallas actually, you know, says stuff and gets under people's skin. He's almost a Kurt-Angleish figure. New Day? I know nothing about them other than 'they're positive!' and they act like Baptist preachers. I really enjoyed Big E and Woods in NXT. They had personality. Big E had it when he was with Dolph and AJ. Kofi had it for a little bit, but he lost it somewhere. They need some impetus to push the fans to give a damn. They need to turn heel or invest in an actual sense of character. I love all three as in-ring workers, but as storytellers and 'Superstars' they're blander than their theme song and catchphrase of the DAMN NAME OF THEIR STABLE. Even their damn slogan is lazily booked. But they were already faces before new day began so they were always positive(except that one night when they looked like they were going heel but was scrap I guess).If the booking is the problem then Why boo the talent? There's a Ton of other ways this could be handled twitter,etc.I just dont think it's right to boo the talent when its not there fault they are in this position.Because there ring work is still good there matches are good I just Don't see the big fuss is about them so much to boo them.This gimmick to me is just another Tons of funk type nothing more nothing less you know fun for the casual fans and the little kids. |
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Post by Himmy! on Mar 31, 2015 7:40:05 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of theirs at all.
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Post by T R W on Mar 31, 2015 7:42:21 GMT -5
It's not that they're cheesy, it's that we have no reason whatsoever to invest in them. Mizdow, we've gotten behind because he's been pushed, bullied and dominated by an overbearing Miz. Bo Dallas actually, you know, says stuff and gets under people's skin. He's almost a Kurt-Angleish figure. New Day? I know nothing about them other than 'they're positive!' and they act like Baptist preachers. I really enjoyed Big E and Woods in NXT. They had personality. Big E had it when he was with Dolph and AJ. Kofi had it for a little bit, but he lost it somewhere. They need some impetus to push the fans to give a damn. They need to turn heel or invest in an actual sense of character. I love all three as in-ring workers, but as storytellers and 'Superstars' they're blander than their theme song and catchphrase of the DAMN NAME OF THEIR STABLE. Even their damn slogan is lazily booked. But they were already faces before new day began so they were always positive(except that one night when they looked like they were going heel but was scrap I guess).If the booking is the problem then Why boo the talent? There's a Ton of other ways this could be handled twitter,etc.I just dont think it's right to boo the talent when its not there fault they are in this position.Because there ring work is still good there matches are good I just Don't see the big fuss is about them so much to boo them.This gimmick to me is just another Tons of funk type nothing more nothing less you know fun for the casual fans and the little kids. Because booing is the only way fans have to express their frustrations. They don't exactly have a "comment box" for you to drop notes in for the writing staff on the way out of the arena. It's the same reason the fans booed Rocky Maivia. It was cheesy and stupid. |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Mar 31, 2015 7:43:58 GMT -5
Because to cheer them means that we're a fan of the whole package when that is simply not the case. The gimmick is garbage and it comes across as garbage. I'm a huge Big E fan and I don't mind Kofi and Woods but this is doing no one any favors at all.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 31, 2015 7:46:27 GMT -5
I explained this in the Raw thread last night. Basically what T R W said. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 7:52:20 GMT -5
But they were already faces before new day began so they were always positive(except that one night when they looked like they were going heel but was scrap I guess).If the booking is the problem then Why boo the talent? There's a Ton of other ways this could be handled twitter,etc.I just dont think it's right to boo the talent when its not there fault they are in this position.Because there ring work is still good there matches are good I just Don't see the big fuss is about them so much to boo them.This gimmick to me is just another Tons of funk type nothing more nothing less you know fun for the casual fans and the little kids. Because booing is the only way fans have to express their frustrations. They don't exactly have a "comment box" for you to drop notes in for the writing staff on the way out of the arena. It's the same reason the fans booed Rocky Maivia. It was cheesy and stupid. I can understand that but I still feel like this whole thing can be handled better. |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Mar 31, 2015 7:53:04 GMT -5
What is Xavier Woods trying to convey to the crowd when he slaps the mat like that? Is it supposed to be like "A... New Day"? Because when he does it, he's just begging for the crowd to chant "New... Day Sucks."
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Post by sitruC on Mar 31, 2015 8:15:44 GMT -5
Because they are being booked bad and because they haven't done anything memorable yet, I like them all as much as the next guy, but only as individuals have they done anything that I'd talk about.
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Post by The Future on Mar 31, 2015 8:27:30 GMT -5
Because booing is the only way fans have to express their frustrations. They don't exactly have a "comment box" for you to drop notes in for the writing staff on the way out of the arena. It's the same reason the fans booed Rocky Maivia. It was cheesy and stupid. I can understand that but I still feel like this whole thing can be handled better. I don't feel like you truly understand any of it... It's pretty similar to the Reigns argument. Not pleased with the (lack of) development of (otherwise talented) wrestlers. Booing is the only way to voice that displeasure. |
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Post by T R W on Mar 31, 2015 8:45:52 GMT -5
Because booing is the only way fans have to express their frustrations. They don't exactly have a "comment box" for you to drop notes in for the writing staff on the way out of the arena. It's the same reason the fans booed Rocky Maivia. It was cheesy and stupid. I can understand that but I still feel like this whole thing can be handled better. And what better way is that? In what better way should the fans voice their displeasure than booing? |
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Post by marino13 on Mar 31, 2015 8:53:19 GMT -5
WWE has pigeon holed 3 very talented guys into cookie cutter roles because they didn't want backlash. With all the racial problem in the US right now they scaled back what they originally had planned and replace it with the blandest gimmick possible. They failed to realize you can have 3 black men in a heel faction without it being solely based on race. Hopefully now that they are getting hate, WWE will let them turn heel and give them a personality.
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Post by Midnight on Mar 31, 2015 8:58:20 GMT -5
New Day Sucks! I don't like them at all, and they haven't even given me a reason to.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 9:14:07 GMT -5
I can understand that but I still feel like this whole thing can be handled better. And what better way is that? In what better way should the fans voice their displeasure than booing? Well when the divas got that 30 second match fans went on twitter and wanted divas to get more time and now they are.I'm not saying start another trend but still. |
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Post by MikeMillenium on Mar 31, 2015 9:15:55 GMT -5
Because everyone knew that they couldve been awesome as heels
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 9:17:51 GMT -5
I can understand that but I still feel like this whole thing can be handled better. I don't feel like you truly understand any of it... It's pretty similar to the Reigns argument. Not pleased with the (lack of) development of (otherwise talented) wrestlers. Booing is the only way to voice that displeasure. No I get it I understand I just dont think booing the talent helps anything. |
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Post by T R W on Mar 31, 2015 9:19:39 GMT -5
And what better way is that? In what better way should the fans voice their displeasure than booing? Well when the divas got that 30 second match fans went on twitter and wanted divas to get more time and now they are.I'm not saying start another trend but still. Fans rallying for women to get better treatment on their programming is completely different than "We don't like this gimmick." SO again, how are fans supposed to voice displeasure? Complaining on twitter is about as helpful as complaining on WF |
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