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Post by Himmy! on Apr 22, 2015 2:03:20 GMT -5
Such a shame. Was a brilliant finisher.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 4:58:43 GMT -5
I wouldn't doubt it's much to do with the 'technicalities' of the move. How it's going to injure 'skulls' and 'vertebrae'... they are all trained to be able to take any of the moves performed as safely as possible... but more to do with visually, it is easy to replicate in real life. There's a lot of impressionable people out there, and this is an easy, off the cuff maneuver that would cause serious damage to a person.
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Post by McBlake on Apr 22, 2015 6:55:03 GMT -5
I wouldn't doubt it's much to do with the 'technicalities' of the move. How it's going to injure 'skulls' and 'vertebrae'... they are all trained to be able to take any of the moves performed as safely as possible... but more to do with visually, it is easy to replicate in real life. There's a lot of impressionable people out there, and this is an easy, off the cuff maneuver that would cause serious damage to a person. That's actually a fair point. Just look at the RKO. Who the hasn't RKO'd someone before?
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Post by Bandalero on Apr 22, 2015 9:35:02 GMT -5
I'm late to the game but honestly I don't see how mesmerizing and innovative the curb stomp is. He's jumping up in the air with his boot across the neck/head and his opponent is really selling the move on the up and down motion. It looks quite simple, it looks like any ordinary thing anyone would do if they were in a real scuffle on the sidewalk. What's so big about the curb stomp?
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Post by Casty on Apr 22, 2015 9:58:17 GMT -5
I'm late to the game but honestly I don't see how mesmerizing and innovative the curb stomp is. He's jumping up in the air with his boot across the neck/head and his opponent is really selling the move on the up and down motion. It looks quite simple, it looks like any ordinary thing anyone would do if they were in a real scuffle on the sidewalk. What's so big about the curb stomp? I think it just fits Rollins, a curb stomp isn't entirely a dolph or a Bryan move, it's not a "wrestlers" finisher, it's a brawler, gritty finisher.
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Post by The Future on Apr 22, 2015 10:11:30 GMT -5
I'm late to the game but honestly I don't see how mesmerizing and innovative the curb stomp is. He's jumping up in the air with his boot across the neck/head and his opponent is really selling the move on the up and down motion. It looks quite simple, it looks like any ordinary thing anyone would do if they were in a real scuffle on the sidewalk. What's so big about the curb stomp? I think it just fits Rollins, a curb stomp isn't entirely a dolph or a Bryan move, it's not a "wrestlers" finisher, it's a brawler, gritty finisher. Yeah, but Seth is not a brawler. Iyam, he should use an opportunistic finisher. Something he can hit quick. Maybe a strike of the back of the knee then a double arm sit out DDT. Orrrr close to a curb stomp but less imitatable: the shining wizard. He can get that glazed look in his eyes when an opponent is stumbling up, bounce off the ropes and use his athleticism. Its more graceful than a curb stomp and everyone's stolen Japanese finishers for the last decade anyway.
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Post by Slim on Apr 22, 2015 10:12:27 GMT -5
Seth Rollins better change his finisher.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 22, 2015 15:13:51 GMT -5
Its certainly possible. I'd love to know who told him to say that. I cant imagine Rollins was like....this is gonna be my finisher and call it the wrong name....The Curb Stomp. If Rollins had some gimmick that was tied to the road, streets, curbs.....then yes. Otherwise, Cole or someone on the headset to Cole just ed this up just like when Cole calls Orton's power slam a scoop slam. Vince? Hunter? The writers? It's a well known fact that there's always someone in the commentators head sets telling them what to say. Paul Burchill did a modified Curb stomp and they called it by the correct name, a ing curb stomp. I don't see how the curb stomp is even an incorrect name for it. Super dragon/burchill/Rollins versions are all different variations of the same move. How is Rollins doing a version of Super Dragon's curb stomp? They might both be kicks to the back of the head, but they arent the same move. Funny thing is.....in reality, what Rollins does resembles stomping a curb more than what Super Dragon does.
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Post by Miztery on Apr 22, 2015 15:31:47 GMT -5
I wouldn't doubt it's much to do with the 'technicalities' of the move. How it's going to injure 'skulls' and 'vertebrae'... they are all trained to be able to take any of the moves performed as safely as possible... but more to do with visually, it is easy to replicate in real life. There's a lot of impressionable people out there, and this is an easy, off the cuff maneuver that would cause serious damage to a person.
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Post by tehforoh on Apr 22, 2015 16:36:26 GMT -5
Vince? Hunter? The writers? It's a well known fact that there's always someone in the commentators head sets telling them what to say. Paul Burchill did a modified Curb stomp and they called it by the correct name, a ing curb stomp. I don't see how the curb stomp is even an incorrect name for it. Super dragon/burchill/Rollins versions are all different variations of the same move. How is Rollins doing a version of Super Dragon's curb stomp? They might both be kicks to the back of the head, but they arent the same move. Funny thing is.....in reality, what Rollins does resembles stomping a curb more than what Super Dragon does. I never claimed he was doing dragons version. I said he did a variation of the move. Different set up but a similar endgame. You were the one that said it was misnamed instead of just being renamed.
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Post by cripplercrossface on Apr 22, 2015 18:04:38 GMT -5
WWE might as well ban the ddt too, because if the move is botched that wrestler taking it will suffer more than a concussion. The curb stomp being banned does not make sense at all. The move might be one if the most protective finishers in the business.
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Post by The Yes Man on Apr 22, 2015 21:18:25 GMT -5
Has the number of injuries gone down at all since WWE started banning moves? It's generally always the little stuff that causes injuries anyway, not big stuff.
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Post by Fave on Apr 22, 2015 21:29:02 GMT -5
Dolph Ziggler is spiking dudes every night with his DDT yet Rollins can't even do this move.. which he drives 0% of their head into the mat with because it's all on them. Btw I love Ziggler and I hope they don't ban his move next, it was just an observation.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 23, 2015 16:49:43 GMT -5
How is Rollins doing a version of Super Dragon's curb stomp? They might both be kicks to the back of the head, but they arent the same move. Funny thing is.....in reality, what Rollins does resembles stomping a curb more than what Super Dragon does. I never claimed he was doing dragons version. I said he did a variation of the move. Different set up but a similar endgame. You were the one that said it was misnamed instead of just being renamed. When did I say you said he was doing Dragons version? You need to reread what I said. I stand by my statement....its misnamed.
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Post by The IT Factor on Apr 24, 2015 10:37:09 GMT -5
Why not just get rid of wrestling altogether in WWE, while we're at it?
I mean, if no one uses any moves on anybody, no one would get hurt, right? /sarcasm
If the Curb Stomp is banned, that will be a f**king stupid move, in my opinion. A move that has never caused any injuries whatsoever whenever Rollins used it gets banned, how idiotic is that?
Hopefully the move isn't banned, and the DDT move Rollins used is just another finisher move.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 10:54:51 GMT -5
I never claimed he was doing dragons version. I said he did a variation of the move. Different set up but a similar endgame. You were the one that said it was misnamed instead of just being renamed. When did I say you said he was doing Dragons version? You need to reread what I said. I stand by my statement....its misnamed. Just because you say it is, doesn't mean it is. It's just a variation of a curb stomp. Like how DDTs and Suplexes can have variations and different setups for similar moves. A t-bone suplex is obviously different than a regular one, but if you only called it a suplex, you wouldn't be wrong. Same thing here. As for the banning, I don't buy it.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 24, 2015 23:33:40 GMT -5
When did I say you said he was doing Dragons version? You need to reread what I said. I stand by my statement....its misnamed. Just because you say it is, doesn't mean it is. It's just a variation of a curb stomp. Like how DDTs and Suplexes can have variations and different setups for similar moves. A t-bone suplex is obviously different than a regular one, but if you only called it a suplex, you wouldn't be wrong. Same thing here. As for the banning, I don't buy it. IMO, if you called a tbone suplex just a suplex....that would be incorrect. A tbone suplex, a "modified" suplex....something to that extent. But to me I see it like you calling a half crap....a boston crab. While a half crab is clearly a version of the Boston crab....its clearly not the same move and has its own name.
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Post by WrestlingRebook on Apr 24, 2015 23:40:28 GMT -5
What's next the pedigree? Oh wait nope that won't happen
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 0:05:41 GMT -5
Just because you say it is, doesn't mean it is. It's just a variation of a curb stomp. Like how DDTs and Suplexes can have variations and different setups for similar moves. A t-bone suplex is obviously different than a regular one, but if you only called it a suplex, you wouldn't be wrong. Same thing here. As for the banning, I don't buy it. IMO, if you called a tbone suplex just a suplex....that would be incorrect. A tbone suplex, a "modified" suplex....something to that extent. But to me I see it like you calling a half crap....a boston crab. While a half crab is clearly a version of the Boston crab....its clearly not the same move and has its own name. It's different for the Boston Crab and single legged because they have two different conclusions to the move, while a T bone and most modified suplexes have the same finish, being a pretty basic flip bump. The angle it's done from doesn't matter, it's still not wrong to call it a suplex. Curb stomp regardless of Rollins or Dragon have the same face bump finish. It's all semantics and irrelevant anyway, though I do prefer Super Dragon's, but his is also more dangerous.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Apr 25, 2015 2:39:36 GMT -5
Just because you say it is, doesn't mean it is. It's just a variation of a curb stomp. Like how DDTs and Suplexes can have variations and different setups for similar moves. A t-bone suplex is obviously different than a regular one, but if you only called it a suplex, you wouldn't be wrong. Same thing here. As for the banning, I don't buy it. IMO, if you called a tbone suplex just a suplex....that would be incorrect. A tbone suplex, a "modified" suplex....something to that extent. But to me I see it like you calling a half crap....a boston crab. While a half crab is clearly a version of the Boston crab....its clearly not the same move and has its own name. They call it a curb stomp because "Modified Curb Stomp" is a stupid name for a finisher. And no, calling a T-Bone suplex just a suplex would not be incorrect. Lazy, sure... but not incorrect.
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