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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 15:24:25 GMT -5
Sometimes, two wrestlers just keep butting heads, usually over a championship belt, and a true rivalry forms.
Pretty fair list. What are your thoughts?
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Post by TheNinthCloud on May 4, 2015 17:08:16 GMT -5
Cena/Orton has no place on that list. Where's the Matt Hardy/Edge feud over Lita?
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Post by mikey1974 on May 4, 2015 17:34:43 GMT -5
I didn't even watch the video, but my personal list of the Top 10 Wrestling Rivalries Ever:
1) Hulk Hogan vs Andre the Giant
2) Stone Cold Steve Austin vs Vince McMahon
3) WCW vs nWo
4) Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat
5) Hulk Hogan vs Macho Man Randy Savage
6) Raven vs Tommy Dreamer
7) Ric Flair vs Sting
8) Undertaker vs Mankind
9) Stone Cold Steve Austin vs The Rock
10) Rick Rude vs Sting
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 12:08:37 GMT -5
solid enough list......but there was some inaccuracies in there!!
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Post by Scarlet Begonias on May 5, 2015 13:44:39 GMT -5
Hogan/Andre
Rock/Austin
HHH/HBK
Lita/Trish
Bryan/Authority- the whole saga including Brie and Steph.
Edge/Matt Hardy
CM Punk/his own bad attitude.
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Post by marino13 on May 5, 2015 13:51:44 GMT -5
I was going to fill out my top ten WWE feuds, but they had a very solid list. Personally I would have had Triple H/HBK feud in there somewhere.
LOVE how she mention Savage never getting a clean victory over Hogan. That eats me alive to this day.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 13:52:11 GMT -5
1. Bret Hart vs. Stone Cold
2-10. Everything else
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on May 5, 2015 14:22:22 GMT -5
solid enough list......but there was some inaccuracies in there!! |
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Post by Hendrix83 on May 5, 2015 22:36:05 GMT -5
My WWE-only list:  1. Stone Cold vs. The Rock - This one beats out Austin vs. Bret only because that one didn't last long enough to be as great as it could. But Austin vs. Rock defined an entire Era of professional wrestling. And, unlike Hogan vs. Savage, these two had amazing chemistry in the ring together. From their first rivalry in late-1997 all the way until their last match at Wrestlemania in 2003, this should go down as the greatest of all time.  2. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels - Their destinies were intertwined from the beginning. All the way from the days of Hart Foundation vs. Rockers, through the Intercontinental and World Championship divisions, they were neck and neck all the way through the 90's. Probably the two best in-ring workers of their generation, the only thing that disappointed about their rivalry is the fact that they didn't meet more while they were both in their prime.  3. Undertaker vs. Mankind - The damnedest rivalry in wrestling history, these guys undoubtedly took years off of each others career. From the moment Mankind debuted he gave Undertaker more problems than anyone before him. 1996 saw classic gimmick-matches like the Boiler Room Brawl, Buried Alive, and others. 1997 saw them fight for the WWF Championship and eventually led to the storyline debut of Kane. And of course, one of the most iconic moments in wrestling history happened at King of the Ring 1998 when Mankind was tossed from the top of Hell in a Cell.  4. Stone Cold vs. Bret Hart - As mentioned above, the only reason this isn't my number one rivalry is because it was cut short. But what an incredible time to be a wrestling fan. These guys single-handedly made RAW interesting on a weekly basis. It was one of those rivalries where the suspension of disbelief was easy. They brought more intensity to the ring than anyone else at the time, topped off by the all-time classic Wrestlemania 13 encounter.  5. Randy Savage vs. Hulk Hogan - Just as Stone Cold and The Rock defined the 90's, Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage defined the 80's. It's a rivalry that was scripted brilliantly from Wrestlemania 4 to their "Mega-Powers Collide" encounter at Wrestlemania 5. The main problem with this rivalry was that they just didn't follow-up on it and I think they should have met again down the line. Their chemistry wasn't the best in the ring either so that could have influenced the decision.  6. The Rock vs. Triple H - These guys, like Bret and Shawn, were intertwined from the very beginning and have never been able to escape one another. Triple H never had the charisma of Stone Cold so their rivalry was more defined by how they performed together in the ring. And The Rock and Triple H had their best matches ever with each other, there's no doubt about that. From the moment rookie Rock won the Intercontinental Title from HHH in February 1997, through their amazing 1998 rivalry which pitted The Nation against DX, through 2000 where they were headlining PPV's while Stone Cold was injured, they always delivered in the ring. The main problem with this rivalry after Triple H turned heel was the reliance on McMahon-Helmsley vs. Rock type of storyline, which really got old by the summer of 2000.  7. Undertaker vs. Kane - Their initial feud in 1997 and 1998 remains to this day one of the most well-written storylines in professional wrestling history. The path was set in motion with Paul Bearers heel turn in 1996. He revealed Kane's secret in Spring of 1997, and months later at Badd Blodd '97 the world first laid their eyes on the Undertaker's little brother. The feud included many classic moments like Kane setting Undertaker's casket on fire, destroying their parents graves, their first confrontation at Wrestlemania after Undertaker swore to never fight his brother, the inferno match. This was the closest thing wrestling has ever had to its own mythology, and remains one of my favorites.  8. Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect - If Hulk Hogan, the Ultimate Warrior, Yokozuna and guys like that were at the top of the card during this time, it wasn't due to them being the best. The honor of best technical wrestlers at the time goes to these two - Bret Hart and Mr. Perfect. They put on some of my favorite matches ever in the WWF and elevated the Intercontinental Championship to the status it deserves. It's a shame Vince didn't utilize this rivalry while Bret was on top, as Mr. Perfect would have made a credible World Wrestling Federation Champion.  9. Triple H vs. Mankind/Cactus Jack - Starting at King of the Ring 1997, these guys brought out the best in each other. They fought all summer long that year and brought about the WWF debut of Foley's most sadistic alter-ego, Cactus Jack. Not to mention a memorable segment where Mankind/Dude Love/Cactus Jack were all in the same room together! And who could forget Royal Rumble 2000, which gave Triple H a certain amount of credibility as World Champion that he didn't have up until then.  10. John Cena vs. CM Punk - These two reignited the wrestling world with their classic confrontations, highlighted by Money in the Bank in 2011. At the time, they had a rivalry that was potentially the best in many years. As with many things in the modern era however, this rivalry was eventually ruined by bad booking and poor storyline decisions. But for what they accomplished initially and how they performed together in the ring, this rivalry deserves a spot on the list. |
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Post by TheNinthCloud on May 5, 2015 22:41:10 GMT -5
What makes a rivalry a great one, by the way? Quality of matches? Story? Longevity? Magnitude?
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 23:09:23 GMT -5
If its longevity and amount of matches...
Sheik and Bobo Brazil went 30+ years and 5 decades.
Lawler and Dundee went 28+ years.
Flair and Dusty went 20+ years.
Steamboat and Flair had their first match in '77 and their last in 94...quantity amd quality.
Hogan and Heenan went through 3 federations and 20 years.
Freebirds and Von Erichs went 4 years and burned bright the whole time...weekly katches, HUGE crowds.
Cornette vs the Rock n Roll Express went 12 years.
Abby vs Colon lasted a long, long time.
Dusty "the egg sucking dog" vs Terry Funk...heck, they went at it in 2013!
Gagne vs Bock...20+
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Post by Mark Martin on May 6, 2015 2:35:20 GMT -5
It's not my #1 or anything but one I haven't seen mentioned that I liked was DX vs The Nation. They had some good stuff going in 98.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 5:20:41 GMT -5
My WWE-only list: 1. Stone Cold vs. The Rock - This one beats out Austin vs. Bret only because that one didn't last long enough to be as great as it could. But Austin vs. Rock defined an entire Era of professional wrestling. And, unlike Hogan vs. Savage, these two had amazing chemistry in the ring together. From their first rivalry in late-1997 all the way until their last match at Wrestlemania in 2003, this should go down as the greatest of all time. 2. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels - Their destinies were intertwined from the beginning. All the way from the days of Hart Foundation vs. Rockers, through the Intercontinental and World Championship divisions, they were neck and neck all the way through the 90's. Probably the two best in-ring workers of their generation, the only thing that disappointed about their rivalry is the fact that they didn't meet more while they were both in their prime. 3. Undertaker vs. Mankind - The damnedest rivalry in wrestling history, these guys undoubtedly took years off of each others career. From the moment Mankind debuted he gave Undertaker more problems than anyone before him. 1996 saw classic gimmick-matches like the Boiler Room Brawl, Buried Alive, and others. 1997 saw them fight for the WWF Championship and eventually led to the storyline debut of Kane. And of course, one of the most iconic moments in wrestling history happened at King of the Ring 1998 when Mankind was tossed from the top of Hell in a Cell. 4. Stone Cold vs. Bret Hart - As mentioned above, the only reason this isn't my number one rivalry is because it was cut short. But what an incredible time to be a wrestling fan. These guys single-handedly made RAW interesting on a weekly basis. It was one of those rivalries where the suspension of disbelief was easy. They brought more intensity to the ring than anyone else at the time, topped off by the all-time classic Wrestlemania 13 encounter. 5. Randy Savage vs. Hulk Hogan - Just as Stone Cold and The Rock defined the 90's, Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage defined the 80's. It's a rivalry that was scripted brilliantly from Wrestlemania 4 to their "Mega-Powers Collide" encounter at Wrestlemania 5. The main problem with this rivalry was that they just didn't follow-up on it and I think they should have met again down the line. Their chemistry wasn't the best in the ring either so that could have influenced the decision. 6. The Rock vs. Triple H - These guys, like Bret and Shawn, were intertwined from the very beginning and have never been able to escape one another. Triple H never had the charisma of Stone Cold so their rivalry was more defined by how they performed together in the ring. And The Rock and Triple H had their best matches ever with each other, there's no doubt about that. From the moment rookie Rock won the Intercontinental Title from HHH in February 1997, through their amazing 1998 rivalry which pitted The Nation against DX, through 2000 where they were headlining PPV's while Stone Cold was injured, they always delivered in the ring. The main problem with this rivalry after Triple H turned heel was the reliance on McMahon-Helmsley vs. Rock type of storyline, which really got old by the summer of 2000. 7. Undertaker vs. Kane - Their initial feud in 1997 and 1998 remains to this day one of the most well-written storylines in professional wrestling history. The path was set in motion with Paul Bearers heel turn in 1996. He revealed Kane's secret in Spring of 1997, and months later at Badd Blodd '97 the world first laid their eyes on the Undertaker's little brother. The feud included many classic moments like Kane setting Undertaker's casket on fire, destroying their parents graves, their first confrontation at Wrestlemania after Undertaker swore to never fight his brother, the inferno match. This was the closest thing wrestling has ever had to its own mythology, and remains one of my favorites. 8. Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect - If Hulk Hogan, the Ultimate Warrior, Yokozuna and guys like that were at the top of the card during this time, it wasn't due to them being the best. The honor of best technical wrestlers at the time goes to these two - Bret Hart and Mr. Perfect. They put on some of my favorite matches ever in the WWF and elevated the Intercontinental Championship to the status it deserves. It's a shame Vince didn't utilize this rivalry while Bret was on top, as Mr. Perfect would have made a credible World Wrestling Federation Champion. 9. Triple H vs. Mankind/Cactus Jack - Starting at King of the Ring 1997, these guys brought out the best in each other. They fought all summer long that year and brought about the WWF debut of Foley's most sadistic alter-ego, Cactus Jack. Not to mention a memorable segment where Mankind/Dude Love/Cactus Jack were all in the same room together! And who could forget Royal Rumble 2000, which gave Triple H a certain amount of credibility as World Champion that he didn't have up until then. 10. John Cena vs. CM Punk - These two reignited the wrestling world with their classic confrontations, highlighted by Money in the Bank in 2011. At the time, they had a rivalry that was potentially the best in many years. As with many things in the modern era however, this rivalry was eventually ruined by bad booking and poor storyline decisions. But for what they accomplished initially and how they performed together in the ring, this rivalry deserves a spot on the list. Amazing post!!! |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 5:26:14 GMT -5
1. Bret Hart vs. Stone Cold 2-10. Everything else I'd extend that to Hart Foundation vs. Austin. Because Austin had some great matches with the other Harts too, and Team Austin vs. HF is the most fun match ever. |
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Post by mikey1974 on May 6, 2015 6:22:49 GMT -5
okay, gonna have some fun with this then! since I regularly watched not only the WWF, but also WCW and ECW once they started airing here, I'll post my top 10 list for EACH company!
WWF:
1) Hogan vs Andre - this feud brought out 93,000 people to see the first match. just think about that. it was THAT hot. sadly,the actual match quality wasn't up to the hype, but this still remains the original "Legend vs Icon" match, pitting the previous top guy vs the current top guy.
2) Stone Cold vs Vince McMahon - this feud single handedly changed the WWF, and helped put them back on top.in 1998 and 1999, there was NOTHING hotter than this feud.
3) Hogan vs Macho Man - Hendrix83 posted beautifully about this feud. it was pretty much the perfect, slow burn, year and a half long build to a Mega-Feud. it felt personal, and it felt REAL!
4) Undertaker vs Mankind - being a Taker mark, no surprise it's this high! but this was a seriously great feud, spanning multiple years, and made both guys better. it turned Undertaker into a more human, more SYMPATHETIC character, and gave him much needed depth and storylines to expand his character. and it made Mankind a legitimate threat, and a realistic contender on the main event level, with multiple wins over the Undertaker, something no else had done up to that point besides Hogan.
5) Stone Cold vs The Rock - one of the greatest of all time, going from the IC title level where Rock got some rub from the rapidly ascending Austin , to their main event level matches starting in 1999, to their great WrestleMania series. this one was good because you anticipated it, because they didn't actually face off in the ring that much, but when they did it was magic
6) The Rock vs Triple H - in a Stone Cold-less WWF landscape, they took the ball and ran with it, having a GREAT series of matches throughout 2000. if there's any knock on this feud,it's that it went to long, starting with their first maine event-level PPV encounter at Survivor Series 99, and ending at Summerslam 2000. other than the December 1999 PPV, they had interaction with each other building their feud at EVERY PPV during a 9 month span.
7) Hogan vs Roddy Piper - it was during the early 80's, but, damn, this was a hot one! and it only helped usher in the first huge boon period for pro wrestling with the Rock n' Wrestling Era. also helped bring about the first WrestleMania. today, it would be looked on as a nice little feud, but at the time it was the biggest thing in the world.
8) Bret Hart vs Stone Cold - definitely a great feud, one of the best of all time, and had some of the best matched in WWF history, and a nearly unrivaled intensity and workrate. sadly, it only lasted a year, and not even a full year, and these 2 would be destined to never meet in the ring again,
9) Undertaker vs Kane - definitely a good one, for all the reasons Hendrix 83 listed. that said, they had a fair amount of clinkers in their matches as well as great ones, hence having it this far down the list.
10) Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels - they had a GREAT series of matches in 1997 into 1998, that seemingly was stopped short once HBK got injured , then retired. then the feud got reignited 11 years later on the grandest stage of all, with even BETTER matches than we saw from them before, even more emotion, and the ULTIMATE stipulation in their last match together. they weren't together long, but when they were,it was pure magic every time!!!
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Post by mikey1974 on May 6, 2015 7:59:50 GMT -5
NWA / WCW:
1) WCW vs nWo - encompassing multiple years, multiple wrestlers, and multiple angles / feuds, this was THE standard bearer for groups of wrestlers to go against each other since it's inception. groundbreaking for the US wrestling scene in the 90's, it made stars of almost everyone involved, crossed over into pop culture, and did what was once deemed impossible - cemented WCW as the #1 wrestling promotion and knocked Vince McMahon and the WWF off it's lofty perch. it also fundamentally changed the WWF, as in the wake of enormous losses of both revenue and talent, Vince was forced to change direction, and get edgier, leading to the Attitude Era. people can knock it for how they drew it out too long, and how it became a joke in the end. but fro almost 2 years, this feud was like printing money for WCW.
2) Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat - they had 2 major feuds in the NWA, but the one most fondly remembered was the 1989 series. innovative, fast-paced, just plain frigging GREAT, this 3-match series was incredible for it's time, and showed off how the NWA/WCW was taking the approach of focusing on the wrestling, while the WWF was focusing on the entertainment. the only knock is that it was a short program, and Steamboat never got a chance to get his Title back after dropping it to Flair ( in a disrespectful, and, quite frankly, uncomfortable sequence, he's pretty much just "ushered away" after dropping the World Title so Terry Funk can get in the ring and start his program with Flair). but the fact that these matches are still talked about TODAY with such reverence tells something about them. not to mention all the house show 1 hour draw matches they had during that time.
3) Ric Flair vs Sting - a long feud lasting almost 13 years, they would have long periods of time when they wouldn't face each other. but when they did come together, Flair had a knack for bringing out the best in the Stinger, and their first encounter at the inaugural Clash of Champions in 1988 basically made Sting's career. I personally never thought I saw a bad match between these two.
4) Sting vs Rick Rude - a great feud, only lasting a few years. but there was an intensity there, Sting was on his A-game, and Rude never looked better. Rude was a star in the WWF, but his feuds with Sting made him into a SUPERstar. it's too bad Rude got injured in, ironically enough, a match with Sting. seeing these 2 feud over the Big Gold Belt would've been a treat!
5) Ric Flair/ 4 Horsemen vs Dusty Rhodes - the prototypical 80's NWA feud. the much hated Flair vs the much beloved Dusty, with the World title at stake. the chase was the most important thing here, as they had a 2 match run of Starrcade main event's for Flair's World Title. it seemed like Dusty just couldn't get it done, and by the time Starrcade 85 came around, the fans wanted...no, they NEEDED Rhodes to win that World title. say what you want about the fat man, but Dusty in the 80's KNEW how to get emotion out of the fans! and once the Horsemen entered the mix, it went to a whole different level! just listen to the shoots by Arn anderson how they would literally incite RIOTS with the fans by attacking Rhodes!
6) Magnum TA vs Nikita Koloff - the textbook example of how to elevate a midcard Title . these 2 guys waged WARS over the nWA United States Championship during the height of the 80's Cold War era. their 7-match series for the Belt is the stuff of legends. and then magnum got in a near fatal car wreck, ending his career, and an emotional nikita turned face, and dedicated his career to his former rival, turning face and creating one of the truly genuine emotional moments in pro wrestling history.
7) The Steiner Brothers vs The Miracle Violence Connection - The Steiner's were well known for being bullies in the ring, and taking liberties with their opponents. I can't prove this drastically decreased the quality of their matches, but when you pretty much do what you want and don't care if you injure your opponents,well...it's hard not to imagine that a lot of opponents didn't want to work with them. then the Steiner's encountered the MVC, and discovered early on that their standard way of doing thing wasn't going to fly. Terry Gordy and Steve Williams weren't going to tke that crap, and threw the Steiner's around and bent them into positions they didn't plan to go into. and it made for a brutal,hard-hitting, yet again short feud that saw the Steiners finally have to actually WORK with their opponents, and saw guys legit beat the hell out of each other.
8) Steve Austin vs Ricky Steamboat - the exact opposite of the above entry. these 2 men waged classic matches over both the WCW Televesion and United States Championships. they never had a bad match together, never failed to entertain or keep the crowd and viewers enthralled, and both guys had the drive, the heart, and the skills that either of them could win the matches, and it believable. one of my favorite feuds ever.
9) Big Van Vader vs Sting - before coming to WCW, Vader was made in Japan. but he was nothing special in the States. until he pulled off the surprise win over Sting for the WCW World Championship at he GAB 1992! a lot of people prefer the Vader vs Cactus Jack feud, but I like this one better. they had multiple matches over 2 years, with multiple Title changes. and you felt like you were seeing a big-time match every time they locked up. they brought out the best in each other during this feud, helping elevate both guys.
10) Ric Flair vs Randy Savage - one of the few sustainable, long-term feuds during the early days of the Monday Night War. taking their feud from the WWF and turning the volume WAY up, you had a very bitter, very brutal, very PERSONAL feud involving ex-wives, alimony, the unthinkable in Elizabeth turning heel, and Championship Belts.it was always entertaining watching Savage go nuts, and flair enjoying himself by pushing the buttons to make savage go nuts. and their matches were ugly, but a good, brutal kind of ugly that a feud this personal should have.
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Post by joek13 on May 7, 2015 19:50:55 GMT -5
Hogan/Andre Rock/Austin HHH/HBK Lita/Trish Bryan/Authority- the whole saga including Brie and Steph.Edge/Matt Hardy CM Punk/his own bad attitude. [/quot Thank you for mentioning this one. We are still pretty "freshly" removed from it and I think as the time goes by, the appreciation for it may grow. I have been watching for a long time - more years than I care to admit and this one was one only a few that I have bought in recent times. I couldn't agree more with using the Brie/Steph stuff as well. Excellent lists so far. (everyone) You really can't wrong with any choice that anybody has made so far and this type of thing is always very subjective. |
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Post by HVMMONS on May 7, 2015 19:57:25 GMT -5
These are from the feuds I remember most.
1. Matt Hardy vs. Edge
2. Stone Cold vs. Mr. McMahon
3. John Cena vs. Edge
4. Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels
5. Undertaker vs. Kane
6. CM Punk vs. John Cena
7. Jeff Hardy vs. CM Punk
8. Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels
9. Jeff Hardy vs. Matt Hardy
10. Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 6:36:27 GMT -5
Always really loved Rocks feud with HHH, pretty underrated
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Post by LA Times on May 10, 2015 8:22:39 GMT -5
1) Hulk Hogan vs Andre the Giant
2) Hulk Hogan vs Macho Man Randy Savage
3) Stone Cold vs Vince McMahon
4) WCW vs NWO
5) Hulk Hogan vs Ric Flair
6) Sting vs Ric Flair
7) John Cena vs Edge
8) Sting vs Big Van Vader
9) Ultimate Warrior vs Rick Rude
10) Stone Cold vs The Rock
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