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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on May 9, 2015 9:49:16 GMT -5
So in watching the old Raw shows from 1995, I forgot that once Mabel became King, he didn't walk to the ring, but he was carried to the ring on his thrown, much like Randy Savage and Haku had done years prior. The only difference is the weight.
I felt so bad for these enhancement talents carrying King Mabel. Some looked like they were struggling hard, which isn't shocking being Mabel was like 560lbs. There were a few times where I thought Mabel was gonna crash too with how rocky his thrown was being.
So I ask.... what the hell was Vince thinking with that?? And those poor enhancement talent, I hope they got paid extra for having to walk and carry that giant man down to the ring.
On another side note, Mabel sucked. The guy had no talent. The fact he remained with the WWE for as many years as he did is astonishing to be honest!
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on May 9, 2015 10:25:02 GMT -5
What I find most interesting is they didn't do much with Mabel after winning the 1995 King of The Ring. He was gone after the 1996 Royal Rumble. I do agree, he did suck on all levels. Hard to believe he had three stints with the WWE.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 9, 2015 12:14:04 GMT -5
The booking of the 1995 King of the Ring baffles me to this day. You had a Tournament that included the Undertaker and a freshly babyface turned Shawn Michaels. So what do you do? You put Mabel over Undertaker, have HBK go to a draw with the awful Kama and have Savio Vega work four times in one damn night.
On topic, I also felt bad for those guys. I believe I remember seeing D-Lo Brown as one of the guys holding Mabel up once.
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Post by jason1980s on May 9, 2015 13:59:26 GMT -5
On another side note, Mabel sucked. The guy had no talent. The fact he remained with the WWE for as many years as he did is astonishing to be honest! I think he did his best with the dancing face character. It seemed to fit him. Anything afterwards, just seemed to stink. His being brought back and kept on the roster several times always made me wonder if Vince really had his hands on the product like we think. You'd think that someone who never got, over playing any character, wouldn't be given chance after chance. Or perhaps Mabel had a loyalty about him and served the purpose of various characters and that's what counts with WWE. |
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Post by dakis on May 9, 2015 14:09:39 GMT -5
I read that the reason he won King of the ring that year was McMahon wanted to push "giants." However due to the steroid crack down from the previous years the roster was thin and Mabel was the best he could do. He had a program with diesel and the undertaker if I'm not mistaken but nothing big ever came of it.
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Post by A-Rob on May 9, 2015 14:13:14 GMT -5
Mabel was a massive man who Vince thought was the perfect person for Diesel to beat but that failed since Diesel was taller and the match sucked.
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Post by mikey1974 on May 9, 2015 15:34:46 GMT -5
Mabel was a walking abomination of a WWF Superstar. no charisma, VERY dangerous in the ring ( injuring BOTH Diesel and Taker in their feuds), and no one cared about him,especially after he turned heel.
as far as the Jobbers, I'm not surprised. Vince didn't care about half of his actual under contract talent at that time, I doubt he gave any thought to the welfare of the curtain jerkers.
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Post by mikey1974 on May 9, 2015 15:38:12 GMT -5
What I find most interesting is they didn't do much with Mabel after winning the 1995 King of The Ring. He was gone after the 1996 Royal Rumble. I do agree, he did suck on all levels. Hard to believe he had three stints with the WWE. he was almost fired the night after Summerslam for injuring Diesel's back by doing a move he was specifically told NOT to do ( dropping on the opponents lower back while they were face down). he was almost fired for that. then, only a few weeks later, he injures Undertaker by breaking his orbital bone with a legdrop! that's 2 of the very top guys in the company injured by the same wrestler in a span of a few weeks. I've always assumed that had something to do with his massive depletion of push in the fall of 1995. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 15:40:58 GMT -5
Mabel injured a Samoan. A  ing Samoan. That's how dangerous he was. |
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on May 9, 2015 16:20:41 GMT -5
What I find most interesting is they didn't do much with Mabel after winning the 1995 King of The Ring. He was gone after the 1996 Royal Rumble. I do agree, he did suck on all levels. Hard to believe he had three stints with the WWE. he was almost fired the night after Summerslam for injuring Diesel's back by doing a move he was specifically told NOT to do ( dropping on the opponents lower back while they were face down). he was almost fired for that. then, only a few weeks later, he injures Undertaker by breaking his orbital bone with a legdrop! that's 2 of the very top guys in the company injured by the same wrestler in a span of a few weeks. I've always assumed that had something to do with his massive depletion of push in the fall of 1995. I do buy Mabel being unsafe with both Diesel and the Undertaker as a sufficient cause to de-push him. I remember when 'Taker had to wear that mask. Of which, looked ridiculous to say the least. After watching those RAW's from 1993-1994 on the network, I can tell Mabel was unsafe even during his Men on a Mission days. |
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Post by Hulk Who? on May 9, 2015 16:36:12 GMT -5
Yea Mabel sucked, but I still wish he or Brodus Clay played a King Hippo gimmick of sorts. Mabel had the crown off to the side which always reminded me of Hippo. He was just a sight to be seen but that's about it, guess that was enough for Vince in his case. Here's one of the injuries.  Says he told Vince not to fire him though. |
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Post by Prophet of Ash on May 9, 2015 16:44:34 GMT -5
Mabel injured a Samoan. A ing Samoan. That's how dangerous he was. one of the best things I've ever read on this site. |
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Post by Dante, The Voc on May 9, 2015 17:11:38 GMT -5
I still don't understand the rationale for pushing Mabel. Vince wants a "giant" to challenge Diesel but he fails to realize no one on his roster, save for maybe 'Taker, is Diesel's height. You could have a heavier guy challenge him, but with the limited talent pool they had at the time I can't see why they would waste their best workers on a midcard feud to have a heavy dude with little wrestling ability challenge for the World Title.
Bam Bam should've won King of the Ring if Vince was desiring a big man challenging Diesel. It's a no-brainer; he woulda provided a more credible opponent than the Man on a Mission, woulda put on a better match, and was exponentially safer to work with. Hell, he coulda 86-ed the big man idea and had Jeff Jarrett or Razor Ramon or just someone to put on a good match with Diesel.
The King of the Ring shouldn't be a pushover. It should be a guy that WWE brass looks at and goes, "We have faith in him going long-term. We're confident in his abilities given his work to this point and we are confident he can be a big star." And clearly, none of that backing went into 1995's King of the Ring.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on May 9, 2015 20:32:11 GMT -5
I still don't understand the rationale for pushing Mabel. Vince wants a "giant" to challenge Diesel but he fails to realize no one on his roster, save for maybe 'Taker, is Diesel's height. You could have a heavier guy challenge him, but with the limited talent pool they had at the time I can't see why they would waste their best workers on a midcard feud to have a heavy dude with little wrestling ability challenge for the World Title. Bam Bam should've won King of the Ring if Vince was desiring a big man challenging Diesel. It's a no-brainer; he woulda provided a more credible opponent than the Man on a Mission, woulda put on a better match, and was exponentially safer to work with. Hell, he coulda 86-ed the big man idea and had Jeff Jarrett or Razor Ramon or just someone to put on a good match with Diesel. The King of the Ring shouldn't be a pushover. It should be a guy that WWE brass looks at and goes, "We have faith in him going long-term. We're confident in his abilities given his work to this point and we are confident he can be a big star." And clearly, none of that backing went into 1995's King of the Ring. I do agree, Bam Bam Bigelow would have been a far better choice. At least he was a very safe worker. I wish the WWF did more with Bigelow. He was very agile, safe, and could make people look good. No doubt, Bigelow vs. Diesel would have been a good match. The WWF's roster in 1995 was thin as ****. The 1995 King of the Ring Tournament is one of those vital pieces of evidence. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 22:04:51 GMT -5
Horrible.
His omission from the 'Giants' DVD does not go unnoticed either...
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 1:46:00 GMT -5
Dat theme doe.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 12:47:34 GMT -5
Mabels de push was 100% to do with hurting Nash & UT and the Kliq not wanting to work with him as a result. They were right in this case.
Bam Bam Bigelow should have won the 1995 KOTR by beating HBK in the final.HBK was heading to IYH2 to beat JJ for the IC strap anyway and feud with Razor so nobody would have been hurt. Vince had WAY too many faces in the Summer of 1995.
Bret
Taker
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Razor
HBK
Bigelow
Luger
Davey
ALL faces......vs Sid, Owen, JJ & Yoko on the proven over heels side......
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Post by China Claus on May 10, 2015 17:24:36 GMT -5
Seems like I remember Diesel squashing King Mabel in just seconds on Raw sometime after Summerslam 95 if I'm not mistaken.
Mabel was a believable monster, especially in my 10 year old eyes. That squash match destroyed all his credibility, and I always thought anything he was involved in was a snoozefest even up until his last WWE run.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on May 10, 2015 19:04:48 GMT -5
Mabel was awful. Just awful. I never understood him rising to the top in that tournament.
Alternately, I loved him as Viscera during his run with the Ministry. He just seemed to have that dark servant patsy muscle bit down perfect, and my only qualm is they didn't try and get a bit more out of him during that time.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 11:48:37 GMT -5
Yup I too liked him as Viscera....he fit that role perfectly IMO.
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