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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jun 7, 2015 14:18:05 GMT -5
On "Viewer's Choice" Raw five years ago, the Nexus debuted during a main event between CM Punk and John Cena. Their debut remains one of the craziest moments in history. Obviously, their impact fizzled out quickly but what are your thoughts on Nexus? The way they were handled, who became stars out of the group, etc.?
Not sure if this should be on the Classics Board so sorry about that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 14:19:12 GMT -5
Amazing idea. Handled badly.
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Jun 7, 2015 14:30:47 GMT -5
Wow 5 years already. that went by so quick haha
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 14:39:00 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan really didn't fit being in the Nexus.
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Post by shenmue on Jun 7, 2015 15:53:33 GMT -5
Watching this live was awesome, it came out of nowhere and truly was shocking. the aftermath was the opposite. I try not to watch any of the stuff from this period, especially PPV matches with Wade Barrett because it would just make me angry again, they had a chance to create a mega heel with him but "Cenawins" got in the way.
there was some good raw's when this started but it then became silly (Cena being in the group but not being a heel was horrible TV, i won't ever re watch those raw's), it was done horribly after a few weeks of intrigue, probably along with the invasion the worst big story line/angle they have done.
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Post by McBlake on Jun 7, 2015 16:15:41 GMT -5
Half a decade? Wow.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 7, 2015 16:19:29 GMT -5
The Nexus angle was built so John Cena could have 7 new talents to beat.
Out of all those Nexus guys, not one has become a main event star. Barrett is mid-card for life, yet in 2010 he could have been seen as a main event star on the rise. He even had a WWE Title match with Randy Orton on a PPV. Ryback is now IC Champion - which I am okay with - but a few years ago you would have thought he was going to be a future WWE Champion with how over he was with the crowd. One got fired, one asked for his release, one does WWE Raw pre-show on the WWE Network, Young is in a tag team and Slater is the new Stevie Richards of this era. If Sunday Night Heat was still around, it would be Slater Night Heat now.
Thankfully Daniel Bryan got released and came back as a face. He really didn't belong in that heel group. And Bryan was the only one out of the original 8 to become World Champion.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 16:24:18 GMT -5
I wasn't a fan. Bryan was the only one worth a damn at the time and was released after the first attack. Barrett shouldn't have been in the WWE Championship picture in my opinion. A group made of mainly green guys that always attacked people they out numbered. Years later we got The Shield which did the same with less members and way more talent.
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Post by dylan on Jun 7, 2015 16:27:50 GMT -5
I loved the Nexus, it's just the whole thing was handled poorly. I'm just glad figures of all 7 came out
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jun 7, 2015 16:32:47 GMT -5
The biggest flop in professional wrestling.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Jun 7, 2015 16:43:04 GMT -5
Jericho said in his book that Cena was both the one behind the idea of the Summerslam finish and that he was totally wrong in the idea. They were built so well only to fall so hard from August to October. The final nail in the coffin was Cena beating Barrett at TLC and dousing him with chairs. Many saw them as jobbers but collectively all 8 had/have talent that, if brought out in the correct way, would've shone. No one was gonna believe the dancing, air-guitar wielding redhead was a viable heel, but bring him out in sunglasses, black tights and lack of a smile and he's viable.
Not to mention they buried the Undertaker at Bragging Rights and went nowhere with that storyline.
Not to mention the NXT pros beat up the NXT season 2 rookies on their premiere episode and that was stupid too.
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Post by JC Motors on Jun 7, 2015 16:43:18 GMT -5
It seems like it was only yesterday
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Post by A-Rob on Jun 7, 2015 18:13:23 GMT -5
One of the best angles i've ever seen. They had so much potential until Cena tapped Wade Barrett out at Summerslam.
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Jun 7, 2015 19:07:29 GMT -5
I remember the show was blowing loads and then this, this amazing moment happen.
It was good TV.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 19:48:32 GMT -5
Horrendous to watch it play out...a good idea got kiboshed in the worst way possible...
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Post by marino13 on Jun 7, 2015 19:52:22 GMT -5
It was a great moment. But I think the problem was only a select few had the perception they were ready for the main roster. Barrett, Bryan, Skip, & Gabriel seemed like potential stars. While Young, Slater, Otunga, & especially Tarver had much more work to do before anyone would consider them a threat.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Jun 7, 2015 19:56:42 GMT -5
I wasn't a fan. Bryan was the only one worth a damn at the time and was released after the first attack. Barrett shouldn't have been in the WWE Championship picture in my opinion. A group made of mainly green guys that always attacked people they out numbered. Years later we got The Shield which did the same with less members and way more talent. Green? I beg to differ. Here is the proof: Wade Barrett - Six years of experience as of June 2010 Daniel Bryan - Ten years of experience as of June 2010 Darren Young - Eight years of experience as of June 2010 Ryback - Five/Six years of experience as of June 2010 Michael Tarver - Five years of experience as of June 2010 Justin Gabriel - Thirteen years of experience as of June 2010 Heath Slater - Six years of experience as of June 2010 David Otunga - The only one who didn't have experience prior to WWE Most of the Nexus guys weren't spring chickens to the industry. You can't compare The Nexus to The Shield. The Shield was one of the first major things we saw on WWE TV after Triple H took control of talent relations and completely overhauled the developmental system. When The Nexus came on to the scene, John Laurinaitis was in charge of talent relations. Comparing Nexus to Shield is apples and oranges.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 20:04:11 GMT -5
I wasn't a fan. Bryan was the only one worth a damn at the time and was released after the first attack. Barrett shouldn't have been in the WWE Championship picture in my opinion. A group made of mainly green guys that always attacked people they out numbered. Years later we got The Shield which did the same with less members and way more talent. Green? I beg to differ. Here is the proof: Wade Barrett - Six years of experience as of June 2010 Daniel Bryan - Ten years of experience as of June 2010 Darren Young - Eight years of experience as of June 2010 Ryback - Five/Six years of experience as of June 2010 Michael Tarver - Five years of experience as of June 2010 Justin Gabriel - Thirteen years of experience as of June 2010 Heath Slater - Six years of experience as of June 2010 David Otunga - The only one who didn't have experience prior to WWE Most of the Nexus guys weren't spring chickens to the industry. You can't compare The Nexus to The Shield. The Shield was one of the first major things we saw on WWE TV after Triple H took control of talent relations and completely overhauled the developmental system. When The Nexus came on to the scene, John Laurinaitis was in charge of talent relations. Comparing Nexus to Shield is apples and oranges. They may have had years of experience in wrestling but apparently for most, not all, they were not accustomed to the "WWE style" because their ring work left a lot to be desired.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Jun 7, 2015 20:11:25 GMT -5
Green? I beg to differ. Here is the proof: Wade Barrett - Six years of experience as of June 2010 Daniel Bryan - Ten years of experience as of June 2010 Darren Young - Eight years of experience as of June 2010 Ryback - Five/Six years of experience as of June 2010 Michael Tarver - Five years of experience as of June 2010 Justin Gabriel - Thirteen years of experience as of June 2010 Heath Slater - Six years of experience as of June 2010 David Otunga - The only one who didn't have experience prior to WWE Most of the Nexus guys weren't spring chickens to the industry. You can't compare The Nexus to The Shield. The Shield was one of the first major things we saw on WWE TV after Triple H took control of talent relations and completely overhauled the developmental system. When The Nexus came on to the scene, John Laurinaitis was in charge of talent relations. Comparing Nexus to Shield is apples and oranges. They may have had years of experience in wrestling but apparently for most, not all, they were not accustomed to the "WWE style" because their ring work left a lot to be desired. Excellent point. What really set The Shield apart from The Nexus is the former were already accustomed to the "WWE Style". The changed in developmental in 2012 really helped The Shield. Granted The Shield were byproducts of FCW, FCW as a whole was a detriment to the WWE. The FCW under the time The Nexus were there is living proof. The WWE learned their lesson with The Nexus. That is one of many reasons why The Shield were heavily protected upon their debut.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 20:16:42 GMT -5
They may have had years of experience in wrestling but apparently for most, not all, they were not accustomed to the "WWE style" because their ring work left a lot to be desired. Excellent point. What really set The Shield apart from The Nexus is the former were already accustomed to the "WWE Style". The changed in developmental in 2012 really helped The Shield. Granted The Shield were byproducts of FCW, FCW as a whole was a detriment to the WWE. The FCW under the time The Nexus were there is living proof. The WWE learned their lesson with The Nexus. That is one of many reasons why The Shield were heavily protected upon their debut. I was more pointing out that if Nexus was booked like Shield it would have worked better for them. The comparison itself is two different worlds.
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