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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 22:14:39 GMT -5
Are you a fan of championships changing hands at Live Events or would your perfer it to stay on TV and PPVs?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 22:19:25 GMT -5
It depends on the title and the show. The WWE title should never change hands at a house show, it should be reserved for PPVs or at the least, a RAW, and that should be a rare occurrence and either a cash in or a really built up match. IC title and down, I'm okay with it, especially on a bigger house show or under the right circumstances. I mean, if you have two guys feuding and they go down a show in the challenger's hometown, why not give them the big home town win? You could easily drop it back the next night or play it up on TV and run with it. And now with the Network, you can air a few house shows a year and have a title change hands once in a while to make it special. And that's what it really boils down to, a once in awhile thing to make house shows seem "worth" going to(which they are regardless in my opinion) isn't a bad idea. It should just make sense and have some good booking behind it.
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Post by | NLS™ | on Jun 25, 2015 22:33:57 GMT -5
At live events you ask? ing bullshit. Bret Hart's first World Title victory was taken from me because of that. It should have been made into a big deal at a major event, but instead it was in the middle of nowhere and untelivised. ing. Bullshit.
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Post by Bandit on Jun 26, 2015 1:26:22 GMT -5
At live events you ask? ing bullcrap. Bret Hart's first World Title victory was taken from me because of that. It should have been made into a big deal at a major event, but instead it was in the middle of nowhere and untelevised. ing. Bullcrap. Hart won the WWF Championship from Ric Flair at a Superstars taping at Saskatchewan Place in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan on October 12 of that year (1992). The match not originally broadcast on WWF television - the match was instead made available on a series of Coliseum/WWE Home Video releases. Bandit - I thought this match was shown on an episode of Prime Time Wrestling? Update - Bandit - Guess it didn't air on Prime Time Wrestling - HistoryOfWWE Website has the following - Bret Hart defeated WWF World Champion Ric Flair (w/ Mr. Perfect) via submission with the Sharpshooter following a superplex to win the title at 26:29. (Smack'em Whack'em, German Fan Favorites, Bret Hitman Hart - His Greatest Matches, WWE's Top 50 Superstars of All Time.) The website would have listed Prime Time Wrestling - if it indeed was shown on that show. Oh well, at least theres video of the title change.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Jun 26, 2015 1:54:17 GMT -5
I think it's silly unless you plan on putting them back on the other champions before the next TV or unless the champion is injured because otherwise it doesn't make sense.
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Post by | NLS™ | on Jun 26, 2015 2:05:08 GMT -5
At live events you ask? ing bullcrap. Bret Hart's first World Title victory was taken from me because of that. It should have been made into a big deal at a major event, but instead it was in the middle of nowhere and untelevised. ing. Bullcrap. Hart won the WWF Championship from Ric Flair at a Superstars taping at Saskatchewan Place in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan on October 12 of that year (1992). The match not originally broadcast on WWF television - the match was instead made available on a series of Coliseum/WWE Home Video releases. Bandit - I thought this match was shown on an episode of Prime Time Wrestling? Update - Bandit - Guess it didn't air on Prime Time Wrestling - HistoryOfWWE Website has the following - Bret Hart defeated WWF World Champion Ric Flair (w/ Mr. Perfect) via submission with the Sharpshooter following a superplex to win the title at 26:29. (Smack'em Whack'em, German Fan Favorites, Bret Hitman Hart - His Greatest Matches, WWE's Top 50 Superstars of All Time.) The website would have listed Prime Time Wrestling - if it indeed was shown on that show. Oh well, at least theres video of the title change. That doesnt mean squat, brother. It was a World title change at a house show AND it stuck. Read The Hitman's book, you'll see it from the horses mouth himself. It was a goddamn house show. What utter disrespect! I can see a US title or Tag Title change at a random house show... but THE most coveted Title in Professional Wresling History? Give me a ing break! Why did the Rockers win the damn TAG TITLES at a house show and have to give them back to their opponents before WWF returned to TV because nobody saw it? The hiphocracy baffles me!
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Post by Too Sweet on Jun 26, 2015 2:08:27 GMT -5
I'm for it, because it makes House shows less bland and predictable, therefore encouraging more people to come.
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Post by BØRNS on Jun 26, 2015 2:15:12 GMT -5
I was there for when Primo and Epico won the tag titles from Air Boom. I think it's always an option if they're in a pinch like that, but shouldn't happen often.
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Jun 26, 2015 3:12:56 GMT -5
I'm for it, because it makes House shows less bland and predictable, therefore encouraging more people to come. This time infinity. They want attendance to but up at all shows. If you only reserve title changes for regular shows you take away an element of surprise. This bores people, especially the older audience. Example, you know John Cena is not going to lose his US Title on a live event. Why not try it once? Talk about a surprise. Thats something the business rarely hits us with anymore surprises.
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Post by Liv Is Life on Jun 26, 2015 3:20:25 GMT -5
Im for it on a rare occasion. If we are to suspend belief and take things we see as a "sport" wouldnt it make sense that a title could change hands ANY time it's defended. Id rather not see someone get their first huge reign on a house show (ie Bret) but if it's done correctly it can certainly be a decent way to transition.
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Post by Flair Forever on Jun 26, 2015 5:53:18 GMT -5
I think they should occasionally televise their house shows on the WWE Network - not with all the stages/pyro/everything, just the simple "old school" regular Live Event sets.... maybe every Friday night, at least for a period of time.....
The smaller set would give the shows a different feel - you wouldn't feel like you're watching another Raw, Smackdown, or PPV....
Have some title changes there, and you've got Network gold....
The July 4th show is a great start!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 5:54:38 GMT -5
I do think its stupid. However, they can make it work if they don't change it back the SAME night and the next live RAW or the next smackdown they announce and show clips from the match.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jun 26, 2015 9:38:00 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind it occasionally as long as WWE has the entire match recorded. So something they can replay for us on Raw, or on the Network or put on a DVD. So exactly like the Japan show on July 4th, where we are to assume the NXT Title is changing hands. It adds the incentive of buying a ticket to an event with the idea that anything can happen.
I did feel cheated as a kid though that I didn't get to watch Nash actually win the WWF Championship. I think the clip was probably on the Diesel VHS or maybe they just replayed it on Raw or both, I know I ended up seeing it but I can't remember at what point, but I would have liked to have seen it live. It probably helps that it was only 8 seconds, so I only missed a jackknife and a 3 count and didn't feel extremely cheated.
If Ryback were to lose the IC Title at a house show right now, I really wouldn't care. So I guess it's all relative to the situation as well.
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Post by J12 on Jun 26, 2015 9:52:12 GMT -5
If it's going to happen, it should be extremely rare, and the match should then be shown on the Network. It's pretty feasible these days.
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Post by marino13 on Jun 26, 2015 10:00:44 GMT -5
I have no problem with it. Makes WWE feel far less scripted.
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Post by Sizzle on Jun 26, 2015 11:14:03 GMT -5
I'm for it, because it makes House shows less bland and predictable, therefore encouraging more people to come. This time infinity. They want attendance to but up at all shows. If you only reserve title changes for regular shows you take away an element of surprise. This bores people, especially the older audience. Example, you know John Cena is not going to lose his US Title on a live event. Why not try it once? Talk about a surprise. Thats something the business rarely hits us with anymore surprises. This.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 11:23:18 GMT -5
I think it should happen more often.
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Post by Bandit on Jun 26, 2015 12:40:28 GMT -5
That doesnt mean squat. It was a World title change at a house show AND it stuck. Read The Hitman's book, you'll see it from the horses mouth himself. It was a goddamn house show. What utter disrespect! I can see a US title or Tag Title change at a random house show... but THE most coveted Title in Professional Wrestling History? Give me a ing break! Why did the Rockers win the damn TAG TITLES at a house show and have to give them back to their opponents before WWF returned to TV because nobody saw it? Well I don't need to read his book because I know Bret Hart is wrong - he won the title at a WWF Superstars Of Wrestling TV Taping - not a house show. If you go watch the match you will see the Superstars Of Wrestling banners above the ring. As for the Rockers winning the tag titles-having to give them back - blame Jim Neidhart for that one. Neidhart was going to quit and WWF took the belts off them - then Neidhart had a change of "Hart" and decided to stick around so the WWF decided not to show the match.
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Post by Matt on Jun 26, 2015 13:50:24 GMT -5
It's pretty cool because it's such a rare occurrence.
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Post by Valbroski on Jun 27, 2015 1:17:58 GMT -5
I'm fine with it once in a while, except for when Khali won the WHC.
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