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Post by Halloween King on Jul 9, 2015 9:52:10 GMT -5
No it's not fair, people use kids as an excuse every day So if my son gets sick and I need to call off it's the same as you not wanting to go to work because you want to stay home and watch tv? Many of you miss the difference. As a parent the last thing I want to do is miss work. I need to work, as a parent I am no responsible for another life. If I do not go to work my baby will not have food to eat, clothes to wear, and so on. The last thing I would think of doing is missing work to just stay home and watch Raw. It isnt that a parent is using a child as an excuse to miss work. It's just a parent being a parent and looking after their babies. You as a non parent want to stay home, I need to stay home.
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Post by Ben - #6 Munchie on Jul 9, 2015 10:31:18 GMT -5
No it's not fair, people use kids as an excuse every day So if my son gets sick and I need to call off it's the same as you not wanting to go to work because you want to stay home and watch tv? Many of you miss the difference. As a parent the last thing I want to do is miss work. I need to work, as a parent I am no responsible for another life. If I do not go to work my baby will not have food to eat, clothes to wear, and so on. The last thing I would think of doing is missing work to just stay home and watch Raw. It isnt that a parent is using a child as an excuse to miss work. It's just a parent being a parent and looking after their babies. You as a non parent want to stay home, I need to stay home. But that's not always the case though, let's be realistic here. At my work there is a woman who uses her child as an excuse to not come to work when she can't be bothered. There are parents who do legitimately need to stay at home to look after their child, but to say that's the case for every single parent is asinine.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 10:33:26 GMT -5
So if my son gets sick and I need to call off it's the same as you not wanting to go to work because you want to stay home and watch tv? Many of you miss the difference. As a parent the last thing I want to do is miss work. I need to work, as a parent I am no responsible for another life. If I do not go to work my baby will not have food to eat, clothes to wear, and so on. The last thing I would think of doing is missing work to just stay home and watch Raw. It isnt that a parent is using a child as an excuse to miss work. It's just a parent being a parent and looking after their babies. You as a non parent want to stay home, I need to stay home. But that's not always the case though, let's be realistic here. At my work there is a woman who uses her child as an excuse to not come to work when she can't be bothered. There are parents who do legitimately need to stay at home to look after their child, but to say that's the case for every single parent is asinine. Bingo! Someone gets it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 10:34:56 GMT -5
So if my son gets sick and I need to call off it's the same as you not wanting to go to work because you want to stay home and watch tv? Many of you miss the difference. As a parent the last thing I want to do is miss work. I need to work, as a parent I am no responsible for another life. If I do not go to work my baby will not have food to eat, clothes to wear, and so on. The last thing I would think of doing is missing work to just stay home and watch Raw. It isnt that a parent is using a child as an excuse to miss work. It's just a parent being a parent and looking after their babies. You as a non parent want to stay home, I need to stay home. But that's not always the case though, let's be realistic here. At my work there is a woman who uses her child as an excuse to not come to work when she can't be bothered. There are parents who do legitimately need to stay at home to look after their child, but to say that's the case for every single parent is asinine. Yeah, but OP is arguing that it isn't fair that parents get to call out sick for the kids PERIOD. He feels like they shouldn't be able to do it at all because he can't do it at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 10:49:38 GMT -5
But that's not always the case though, let's be realistic here. At my work there is a woman who uses her child as an excuse to not come to work when she can't be bothered. There are parents who do legitimately need to stay at home to look after their child, but to say that's the case for every single parent is asinine. Yeah, but OP is arguing that it isn't fair that parents get to call out sick for the kids PERIOD. He feels like they shouldn't be able to do it at all because he can't do it at all. No. He's talking about how parents are exempt from certain policies in his company. Such as having to work one of two holidays, etc. Please, read his post.
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Post by Halloween King on Jul 9, 2015 11:01:34 GMT -5
So if my son gets sick and I need to call off it's the same as you not wanting to go to work because you want to stay home and watch tv? Many of you miss the difference. As a parent the last thing I want to do is miss work. I need to work, as a parent I am no responsible for another life. If I do not go to work my baby will not have food to eat, clothes to wear, and so on. The last thing I would think of doing is missing work to just stay home and watch Raw. It isnt that a parent is using a child as an excuse to miss work. It's just a parent being a parent and looking after their babies. You as a non parent want to stay home, I need to stay home. But that's not always the case though, let's be realistic here. At my work there is a woman who uses her child as an excuse to not come to work when she can't be bothered. There are parents who do legitimately need to stay at home to look after their child, but to say that's the case for every single parent is asinine. This is true. I can see people using kids as an excuse to just stay home. I just take issue with someone saying that Staying home to watch Raw is equally as important as having to stay home to care for a child.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 11:05:39 GMT -5
Yeah, but OP is arguing that it isn't fair that parents get to call out sick for the kids PERIOD. He feels like they shouldn't be able to do it at all because he can't do it at all. No. He's talking about how parents are exempt from certain policies in his company. Such as having to work one of two holidays, etc. Please, read his post. I did. He also mentions sick time. Go re-read it. You must have missed it the first time you read it. The point I made is still valid. OP's point is about policy, the post I was responding to is about abuse of policy. It's two separate things.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 12:01:36 GMT -5
Yes. He mentions his company having a zero tolerance policy when it comes to calling out sick... except for people with children.
He then goes on to talk about how his company work around flexible availability. Meaning they need to you to be a available on different days each week, like most retail businesses do. However, mentions that people with children are allowed to have "set schedules" because they apparently can't find a babysitter, etc.
Now that I've reiterated his entire post, do you understand what he meant?
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Post by Adam on Jul 9, 2015 19:17:25 GMT -5
My fiancée dealt with the same thing at her old job, she was the only one that didn't have kids. Drove her nuts that people got to cut out early for that, especially when weather was bad.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 19:24:39 GMT -5
My fiancée dealt with the same thing at her old job, she was the only one that didn't have kids. Drove her nuts that people got to cut out early for that, especially when weather was bad. Or getting called in because "So and so's kid doesn't have school because of snow."
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Post by Nick the Quick on Jul 9, 2015 23:39:42 GMT -5
If you think that's bad, Thanksgiving and Christmas, as well as the weeks before them, are the blackouts periods at my job.
If anyone here is unfamiliar with the term blackout period, it's a period where you are not allowed to request time off from work and calling off is prohibited.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Jul 10, 2015 2:03:31 GMT -5
If you think that's bad, Thanksgiving and Christmas, as well as the weeks before them, are the blackouts periods at my job. If anyone here is unfamiliar with the term blackout period, it's a period where you are not allowed to request time off from work and calling off is prohibited. My job has about 5-6 of these a year. The last one we had was last weekend actually.
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Post by JC Motors on Jul 10, 2015 10:58:24 GMT -5
Have you ever worked with smokers? I swear they take breaks every 15 minutes. They get more breaks than anybody. Yeah I work with a couple of smokers who are outside taking more 15 minute breaks than they are allowed. The one lady when she is not outside smoking complains that I take too long of a break in the breakroom. Oh The Irony
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 12:05:16 GMT -5
Have you ever worked with smokers? I swear they take breaks every 15 minutes. They get more breaks than anybody. I smoke but never take smoke breaks at work.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 12:09:46 GMT -5
Yes. He mentions his company having a zero tolerance policy when it comes to calling out sick... except for people with children. He then goes on to talk about how his company work around flexible availability. Meaning they need to you to be a available on different days each week, like most retail businesses do. However, mentions that people with children are allowed to have "set schedules" because they apparently can't find a babysitter, etc. Now that I've reiterated his entire post, do you understand what he meant? Of course I do. I'm not having a problem with comprehension. Do you get what I meant? OP has a problem with policy, not abuse of policy. Therefore using your kids as an excuse when you're making up a reason to call out is NOT what he's talking about. Do you understand now?
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Jul 11, 2015 12:15:21 GMT -5
Have you ever worked with smokers? I swear they take breaks every 15 minutes. They get more breaks than anybody. Bull crap, I'm a smoker, and I take my breaks at the times we're supposed to, and dont stay out longer than the allocated time. This is my gripe, I play by the book and other people dont.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Jul 11, 2015 12:23:28 GMT -5
So for the past 3 years ive worked Christmas day, we get the choice to work either Christmas or new years over the festive season as its only fair that you work one or the other. Unless you have childeren then youre exempt from that rule.. This bugs the hell out of me, i dont want kids, i have no plans to have kids, that doesn't make me any less of a person but i get really pissed off that people can use the "i have kids" card to get out of certain duties, were all have work contracts, and 0 tolerance to calling in "sick" but seems that the office is a lot more leniant to those with kids. Whys thay fair? I detest kids and feel like im the one being punished for someone elses bad decision. Also people work "set days" on a flexible contract?! Because they can't get baby sitters, I dont kick up a fuss if I'm working on Mondays and miss Monday night raw, I dont kick up a fuss if I work weekends and Wednesdays the old days i can see my girlfriend. Anyone else feel that parents get different treatment to those whithout kids? Parents need special treatment. If you dont want kids that's your choice. If you get sick, and are a single guy with no kids, then you only need a certain amount of sick days. Now if you, as a single non parent, took 2 days off for being sick your coworker, who is a parent, will prob also take 2 days off for being sick. BUT add to that the days your coworker will need to care for small children. It isnt hard to wrap your mind around. Just think back to your childhood. You had a mother and father. If you were sick as a child you had an adult look after you. I think it is laughable that you would compare a person missing a Monday so that they may care for a baby, to your wanting to miss monday so that you can sit at home and watch television. I mean really? You cant be serious. How can you compare the well being of another human being, a child, to your wanting to sit on tush and watch wrestling. When I was single and had no kids, I would go to work. If I called off I was either very sick or I had something I needed to do, or somewhere I wanted to go. I would never think of missing work, and a paycheck, just to sit at home and do nothing. I went to work with a broken finger, which I never had looked at. I went to work with a sprained knee and ankle. I've been to work with colds. I've been to work with vertigo. It would need to be something where I cant get out of bed to keep me from going to work. It's called Maning up. I've worked plenty of Holidays. Now that im a parent though if my baby needs me then he comes first above all else. I'll call off if needed, I'll leave work early if needed. I would hate to think something happened to my son because I wasnt there when he needed me. I know its not something we're gonna agree on, but what happened to equality in the workplace? someone is a parent so that grants them the power of dictatorship over when they're available to work? If your kid is ill fair enough, but dont tell me you NEED christmas and new years off because you have a child, thats not my fault. If anyone calls in sick we get the whole "you're letting your collegues and patients down" speech and possibly get fired. But there are repeat offenders, "my kids got the dentist, doctors, school meeting" just excuses. These people dont even try to find someone to cover a shift, and call in at the last minute making it hard to find someone to cover that shift. I work in a nursing home, and there can be 22 patients on one floor, to 2 members of staff, which goes down to 1 when "mummy" and it annoys me when they're allowed to get away with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 14:01:41 GMT -5
Have you ever worked with smokers? I swear they take breaks every 15 minutes. They get more breaks than anybody. Bull crap, I'm a smoker, and I take my breaks at the times we're supposed to, and dont stay out longer than the allocated time. This is my gripe, I play by the book and other people dont. Nobody is talking about you specifically. Just smokers in general.
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Post by @.@ Hempsterdance @.@ on Jul 11, 2015 16:14:05 GMT -5
I agree with you, im in the same boat with my gf, we dont want kids and never plan on having them. I was in a similar situation at one job i had. I dont believe its fair but i also see the point that parents should be with their children on Christmas.
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Post by @.@ Hempsterdance @.@ on Jul 11, 2015 16:15:33 GMT -5
Bull crap, I'm a smoker, and I take my breaks at the times we're supposed to, and dont stay out longer than the allocated time. This is my gripe, I play by the book and other people dont. Nobody is talking about you specifically. Just smokers in general. As a smoker most places ive worked gave me 2 breaks a day. Most companies would only gove 2 15 min breaks and a half hour lunch.
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