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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Aug 9, 2015 17:38:56 GMT -5
I'm kind of OK with it because I can repaint this belt easily enough, but others are going to be much harder and for the money spent, I shouldn't have to paint it. My BIGGEST problem with this belt is the missed opportunity of getting the design correct! Those side bars are still right next to the side plates leaving an enormous gap between them and the main plate. It looks stupid. On the real belt, the side plates, main plate and gold bars are all nicely spaced together. This is one gigantic fail, no other way to spin it. If you're going to mold it as one piece, then get the mold CORRECT!!  To me that is the worst part. If the design was correct it would still look pretty cool, but that's the clincher. They cheaped out, AND botched the design. Epic Fail... |
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Post by CAT-ion Figures on Aug 9, 2015 18:27:37 GMT -5
As a community we must fight back. They tried this a few years ago with the dull belts and people revolted and they went back to the shiny belts. We must do the same thing again. There is no justifying this. Yes Mattel makes great figures, but that doesn't mean were not allowed to criticize them. This type of cost cutting is unacceptable. I don't care that prices go up as long as it means that we get the same quality. But I refuse to buy figures if the cost goes up and the quality goes down. It's unethical. The whole point of rising prices is to keep the same quality. I hope this is just a one time thing like the hardcore belt but I have a feeling it won't be. Mattel is testing us. If people sit back and say oh it's not a big deal and try justifying it, then they will continue doing this. And then it will not only be belts, but accessories, less detail etc. This is unacceptable and anybody who defends Mattel will lead to the lines downfall. Jakks barely raised the price of their figures in a decade. Mattel continues to raise prices all while sacrificing important aspects of the elites. I lovethe elite figures, but don't raise prices and then cut more out. Either keep prices stable and cut costs or raise the price and keep the details the same. Not both. Keep the cost cutting for the basics. This is infuriating that people just stand by and defend Mattel for this. They're testing us to see what they can get away with. How do people not see this?
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Post by vashts on Aug 9, 2015 19:21:36 GMT -5
Was disappointed when I heard this as well. Was on the fence about the new Brock figure because I wanted the belt. This made it a no buy. I'll wait for the Seth and hope it's different. In Bill's SDCC interview he did talk about cost cutting. Would suck if this is what they decided on. Cost cutting? THey should be giving double joints and improving the figures? Cost cutting? |
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Post by vashts on Aug 9, 2015 19:29:15 GMT -5
I'm contemplating quitting this hobby too and have been for a couple weeks. Stuff like this doesn't help. Quality going down... prices going up. I think the lack of NWO Hogan and the fact that Target seemed to remove him was my break. SJW's and feminism over their actual fans....reminds me of Gamergate. |
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Post by vashts on Aug 9, 2015 19:45:42 GMT -5
As a community we must fight back. They tried this a few years ago with the dull belts and people revolted and they went back to the shiny belts. We must do the same thing again. There is no justifying this. Yes Mattel makes great figures, but that doesn't mean were not allowed to criticize them. This type of cost cutting is unacceptable. I don't care that prices go up as long as it means that we get the same quality. But I refuse to buy figures if the cost goes up and the quality goes down. It's unethical. The whole point of rising prices is to keep the same quality. I hope this is just a one time thing like the hardcore belt but I have a feeling it won't be. Mattel is testing us. If people sit back and say oh it's not a big deal and try justifying it, then they will continue doing this. And then it will not only be belts, but accessories, less detail etc. This is unacceptable and anybody who defends Mattel will lead to the lines downfall. Jakks barely raised the price of their figures in a decade. Mattel continues to raise prices all while sacrificing important aspects of the elites. I lovethe elite figures, but don't raise prices and then cut more out. Either keep prices stable and cut costs or raise the price and keep the details the same. Not both. Keep the cost cutting for the basics. This is infuriating that people just stand by and defend Mattel for this. They're testing us to see what they can get away with. How do people not see this? You get it as a fan. A lot, about 30 percent who are fine do not get it. You must put your foot down. Mattel is not your friend. They are a corporation. THey hate fans who demand better. They had a DCUC line and flat out did NOT want to compete with Hasbro. This is the gauntlet they threw down, higher prices, lower quality, lack of accessories. Took me 8 pages, but someone got it right, fight against Mattel....they are NOT your friend. You pay them, they should not give you trash for your hard work. Many work hard to the best of their abilities, shouldn't you demand MAttel's best? I see some here trashing Jakks. Jakks gave great accessories, nice face sculpts and kept prices down. THeir prices are still low for their TNA figures. Mattel is taking advantage of us, we should let them know it is unacceptable. |
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Post by becks007 on Aug 9, 2015 19:50:10 GMT -5
So it went from great quality, shiny plastic, figure size belts that got rave reviews every time...  To this somewhat dull looking, one piece rubber mold? >>>  Yup, Mattel's quality for the belts has dropped, at least for now. I hope the future belts they do after this will go back to being the shiny painted plastic plates. Hey Mattel, if you're reading this, stick those rubber molds for the basics or two packs. Use the norm plastic plates belts for the Elite figures. At the prices we pay for the Elites, we deserve better than just simply an all rubber belt accessory which is somewhat underwhelming to be honest. |
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Post by JHTB® on Aug 9, 2015 20:04:22 GMT -5
Did this for fun...   Comparing to ckhybrid 's pic  |
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Post by RKSimm on Aug 9, 2015 20:56:07 GMT -5
This better be the only belt they do this with. The design of the belt in real life is horrible anyway, should have just stuck with the spinner design or better yet, the Big Gold. This one has no gold on the main plate. The black background behind the W should be gold.
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Post by TheChamp420 on Aug 9, 2015 21:07:02 GMT -5
You people are making it seem like they're scraping the bottom of the barrel for cash to make this. This might just be experimenting with new ways of sculpting and molding, while being cost effective. Figures now, are better than they have ever been and there's more of a variety. Bills an expert and has that job for a reason (reasons why many of you dont), I'm sure this was the best bet to make the new title. Agree! |
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Post by KPnDC on Aug 9, 2015 23:00:09 GMT -5
ckhybrid posted some really HQ pics of the title.  I can understand the frustration, but that belt looks great. I'm not sure how'd they pull of the VAC effect w/ a belt like that. Most of it is leather. EDIT: Thanks for the comparison pics. I forgot they did the scratch logo in this design before w/ the VAC effect. IDK, Its not big deal to me, however I'll stand with you all. No good Mattel. Give us what we want. |
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Post by R.A. The Rugged Man on Aug 9, 2015 23:23:10 GMT -5
ckhybrid posted some really HQ pics of the title. I can understand the frustration, but that belt looks great. I'm not sure how'd they pull of the VAC effect w/ a belt like that. Most of it is leather. EDIT: Thanks for the comparison pics. I forgot they did the scratch logo in this design before w/ the VAC effect. IDK, Its not big deal to me, however I'll stand with you all. No good Mattel. Give us what we want. Good man. |
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Post by tehforoh on Aug 10, 2015 4:36:33 GMT -5
I can understand the frustration, but that belt looks great. I'm not sure how'd they pull of the VAC effect w/ a belt like that. Most of it is leather. EDIT: Thanks for the comparison pics. I forgot they did the scratch logo in this design before w/ the VAC effect. IDK, Its not big deal to me, however I'll stand with you all. No good Mattel. Give us what we want. Yeah, that's true. The new title is mostly leather which is probably why they went with this design. If something was really up, then the cruiserweight title that comes with Dean Malenko would've been in the same style if it were a cost cutting thing. Not necessarily. The Cruiserweight title isn't a new mold, it's been used before. It wouldn't make any sense to spend the time and money on an entire new sculpt for a title that might not be released again. |
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Aug 10, 2015 5:22:54 GMT -5
As a community we must fight back. They tried this a few years ago with the dull belts and people revolted and they went back to the shiny belts. We must do the same thing again. There is no justifying this. Yes Mattel makes great figures, but that doesn't mean were not allowed to criticize them. This type of cost cutting is unacceptable. I don't care that prices go up as long as it means that we get the same quality. But I refuse to buy figures if the cost goes up and the quality goes down. It's unethical. The whole point of rising prices is to keep the same quality. I hope this is just a one time thing like the hardcore belt but I have a feeling it won't be. Mattel is testing us. If people sit back and say oh it's not a big deal and try justifying it, then they will continue doing this. And then it will not only be belts, but accessories, less detail etc. This is unacceptable and anybody who defends Mattel will lead to the lines downfall. Jakks barely raised the price of their figures in a decade. Mattel continues to raise prices all while sacrificing important aspects of the elites. I lovethe elite figures, but don't raise prices and then cut more out. Either keep prices stable and cut costs or raise the price and keep the details the same. Not both. Keep the cost cutting for the basics. This is infuriating that people just stand by and defend Mattel for this. They're testing us to see what they can get away with. How do people not see this? You get it as a fan. A lot, about 30 percent who are fine do not get it. You must put your foot down. Mattel is not your friend. They are a corporation. THey hate fans who demand better. They had a DCUC line and flat out did NOT want to compete with Hasbro. This is the gauntlet they threw down, higher prices, lower quality, lack of accessories. Took me 8 pages, but someone got it right, fight against Mattel....they are NOT your friend. You pay them, they should not give you trash for your hard work. Many work hard to the best of their abilities, shouldn't you demand MAttel's best? I see some here trashing Jakks. Jakks gave great accessories, nice face sculpts and kept prices down. THeir prices are still low for their TNA figures. Mattel is taking advantage of us, we should let them know it is unacceptable. Are you two the type that though Daniel Bryan was awesome until he became world champ and then turned on him? Demand better? Always. They hate fans who demand better? What? Their business goes in cycles and they have crazy things caled budgets to follow. Last year we saw some places selling elites as low as $17. They (not Mattel by the way) raised prices up over $20 and people started buying less. How do they recoup losses? Probably trying new things to manage all the wheels that move in their business. And for the record I'm not a fan of this belt but let's see if they continue to use it. The Internet community doesn't represent the majority of buyers in the market, so don't think you're "fighting the power" by calling people to rise up against them. It's a free world and everyone should be able to voice their opinions, but knowing facts about things will help your argument more. |
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Aug 10, 2015 6:25:51 GMT -5
I'm kind of OK with it because I can repaint this belt easily enough, but others are going to be much harder and for the money spent, I shouldn't have to paint it. My BIGGEST problem with this belt is the missed opportunity of getting the design correct! Those side bars are still right next to the side plates leaving an enormous gap between them and the main plate. It looks stupid. On the real belt, the side plates, main plate and gold bars are all nicely spaced together. This is one gigantic fail, no other way to spin it. If you're going to mold it as one piece, then get the mold CORRECT!! To me that is the worst part. If the design was correct it would still look pretty cool, but that's the clincher. They cheaped out, AND botched the design. Epic Fail... Totally. There are actually some benefits to being one piece, it will sit closer on the figs without the humps on the back and the plates will also not separate from the strap when you bend them. But one huge downfall is the lack of paint on the sides of each plate and that just won't happen because its too expensive to add in. But if there is ONE thing they could have done with a molded belt is make this one cool! They could have indented the leather sections of the main plate so the big W's were raised but they didnt. The fact they couldn't even space the bars right is gravely concerning. This belt actually could have been cool, but its one gigantic botch in every sense. |
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Post by Slim Jim Macho on Aug 10, 2015 7:39:18 GMT -5
I don't know, I kind of like it.
I really like that it fits figures way more snug than having the plates push out the belt (making it look way too bulky). I do get why people are pissed but I'm for it as long as the shine doesn't dull or the paint doesn't rub off. It's the best way to make this belt look cool imo.
BUT, those plate bars need to be centered. That's my biggest ocd beef.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 8:21:29 GMT -5
As a community we must fight back. They tried this a few years ago with the dull belts and people revolted and they went back to the shiny belts. We must do the same thing again. There is no justifying this. Yes Mattel makes great figures, but that doesn't mean were not allowed to criticize them. This type of cost cutting is unacceptable. I don't care that prices go up as long as it means that we get the same quality. But I refuse to buy figures if the cost goes up and the quality goes down. It's unethical. The whole point of rising prices is to keep the same quality. I hope this is just a one time thing like the hardcore belt but I have a feeling it won't be. Mattel is testing us. If people sit back and say oh it's not a big deal and try justifying it, then they will continue doing this. And then it will not only be belts, but accessories, less detail etc. This is unacceptable and anybody who defends Mattel will lead to the lines downfall. Jakks barely raised the price of their figures in a decade. Mattel continues to raise prices all while sacrificing important aspects of the elites. I lovethe elite figures, but don't raise prices and then cut more out. Either keep prices stable and cut costs or raise the price and keep the details the same. Not both. Keep the cost cutting for the basics. This is infuriating that people just stand by and defend Mattel for this. They're testing us to see what they can get away with. How do people not see this? You get it as a fan. A lot, about 30 percent who are fine do not get it. You must put your foot down. Mattel is not your friend. They are a corporation. THey hate fans who demand better. They had a DCUC line and flat out did NOT want to compete with Hasbro. This is the gauntlet they threw down, higher prices, lower quality, lack of accessories. Took me 8 pages, but someone got it right, fight against Mattel....they are NOT your friend. You pay them, they should not give you trash for your hard work. Many work hard to the best of their abilities, shouldn't you demand MAttel's best? I see some here trashing Jakks. Jakks gave great accessories, nice face sculpts and kept prices down. THeir prices are still low for their TNA figures. Mattel is taking advantage of us, we should let them know it is unacceptable. Such brave men you both are. |
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Post by The neferious brotha Hargrove on Aug 10, 2015 8:25:10 GMT -5
Damn Mattel PIMPIN harder than me , with the price of elites
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Aug 10, 2015 8:28:52 GMT -5
It looks good around Rollins' waist, but it looks awful in the pic of Brock holding it.
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Post by hellojoeivers on Aug 10, 2015 8:53:46 GMT -5
This belt looks fine to me based on those pictures of Seth and Bork!
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