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Post by jdfranchise on Aug 17, 2015 22:24:11 GMT -5
Yeah, I've heard some grumblings that maybe Brock wins Sunday and Taker wins in a rematch at Mania 32. To me, Lesnar should win this match and that's the end of it. The next guy that beats Brock needs to be really special in the present. It should mean something. Brock losing to Taker is WWE admitting that ending the streak was a mistake. but it was. like in the moment, yes, it was unreal. the fact it happened, one of the craziest things ever. so i get it. but in the bigger picture, it should have never happened. for all he's done in this business, Undertaker should have retired undefeated at Wrestlemania. This.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Aug 17, 2015 22:24:45 GMT -5
Yeah, I've heard some grumblings that maybe Brock wins Sunday and Taker wins in a rematch at Mania 32. To me, Lesnar should win this match and that's the end of it. The next guy that beats Brock needs to be really special in the present. It should mean something. Brock losing to Taker is WWE admitting that ending the streak was a mistake. but it was. like in the moment, yes, it was unreal. the fact it happened, one of the craziest things ever. so i get it. but in the bigger picture, it should have never happened. for all he's done in this business, Undertaker should have retired undefeated at Wrestlemania. I agree. Especially because Lesnar really didn't need to break the streak to establish his career as being anymore dominant than it already is/was. But the WWE really painted themselves into a corner doing this rematch.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 17, 2015 22:28:10 GMT -5
At first I didn't like it.
But I've grown to love the streak ending.
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Post by jdfranchise on Aug 17, 2015 22:29:19 GMT -5
So I'm going back and watching the last hour, and I hope someone in creative refrains from giving New Day a rapper gimmick because of their nursery rhyme promo before the eight man. As if they didn't have enough problems with stereotype gimmicks
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Aug 17, 2015 22:29:36 GMT -5
On another note, it seems like Taker is continuing to grow out his hair for a final match/run somewhere down the line.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 17, 2015 22:29:56 GMT -5
At first I didn't like it. But I've grown to love the streak ending. I still have mini mark out moments when I see the crowd reacting to the 3 count.
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Post by Arthur Speaks on Aug 17, 2015 22:29:44 GMT -5
This entire feud has been booked bizarrely. They had to know Lesnar was going to be super over tonight in Minnesota. From what I can gather, neither guy is supposed to be a heel in this feud - we're seeing a supposedly desperate Undertaker versus a guy who just likes to fight and beat people up because he can. I really don't know who's going to win this Sunday. It seems like Lesnar is going to win based on everything that's happened so far, but if he does then what was the point of Taker coming back? They're making it seem like if he loses this match his career is over, but would he really retire on a losing note at a PPV other than Mania? Just really weird. Yeah, I really don't know what's going to happen at SummerSlam. The booking has become really weird. I still don't understand why this is just a regular singles match when the whole point is you want to see these two whoop each other's asses.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 22:30:00 GMT -5
"BOI, YOU BETTER GET OUTTA MAH YARD ER I'M GUNNA KICK YER DICK!"
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Post by cmiller79 on Aug 17, 2015 22:30:46 GMT -5
Imo I look at it like a back handed compliment It's Vince. He probably only see's it as a shot towards Punk. yeah i think because punk beat vince at his own game in the court room and he just cant let it go i kinda feel bad for a.j her childhood dream & being one of the best women's wrestlers in the world and because of who she married it don't matter anymore in wwe or should I say Vince's eyes it must really suck to be punished for who you love
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 17, 2015 22:32:18 GMT -5
Rosa Mendes is so dumb.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Aug 17, 2015 22:32:38 GMT -5
On another note, John Cena needs to watching Pauls segment. Notice how Paul put Taker over? Thats how you sell a match. Dont ing call your opponent a joke and verbally bury him 6 feet under. Paul understands that part of promo cutting with a live mic, Cena still needs to learn that. But when you have an infinite leash with the boss, you don't have to learn. Someone else notorious for burying guys on the mic, HHH. But I don't think he was that blatant. I feel like Trips never did that as blatantly as Cena does on a constant basis.
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Post by Joey Cush on Aug 17, 2015 22:32:46 GMT -5
This entire feud has been booked bizarrely. They had to know Lesnar was going to be super over tonight in Minnesota. From what I can gather, neither guy is supposed to be a heel in this feud - we're seeing a supposedly desperate Undertaker versus a guy who just likes to fight and beat people up because he can. I really don't know who's going to win this Sunday. It seems like Lesnar is going to win based on everything that's happened so far, but if he does then what was the point of Taker coming back? They're making it seem like if he loses this match his career is over, but would he really retire on a losing note at a PPV other than Mania? Just really weird. Yeah, I really don't know what's going to happen at SummerSlam. The booking has become really weird. I still don't understand why this is just a regular singles match when the whole point is you want to see these two whoop each other's asses. Why this isnt a No DQ or No Holds Barred match just makes my brain hurt.
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Post by cmiller79 on Aug 17, 2015 22:34:31 GMT -5
Paul understands that part of promo cutting with a live mic, Cena still needs to learn that. But when you have an infinite leash with the boss, you don't have to learn. Someone else notorious for burying guys on the mic, HHH. But I don't think he was that blatant. I feel like Trips never did that as blatantly as Cena does on a constant basis. triple h did it but he didn't just come out say it the way cena does
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Post by torriefan4life on Aug 17, 2015 22:35:11 GMT -5
That was a strange ending to Raw. I guess I found it strange because of the crowd reactions, but that is what happens when you have a performer out there in his/her home town.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Aug 17, 2015 22:35:45 GMT -5
Yeah, I really don't know what's going to happen at SummerSlam. The booking has become oreally weird. I still don't understand why this is just a regular singles match when the whole point is you want to see these two whoop each other's asses. Why this isnt a No DQ or No Holds Barred match just makes my brain hurt. They might make it No DQ at the last minute. They used to do that all the time in the 90s/early 2000s. I think Mania 27 they made Taker vs. Triple H No DQ at the last minute.
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Post by Kanenite on Aug 17, 2015 22:36:15 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if Taker just Low Blows Lesnar in front of the Ref and gets DQ'ed at Summerslam at this point.
Followed by a Chokeslam, a Tombstone and like 8 months of them showing it over and over and over and over again until a Wrestlemania rematch.
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Post by Rob on Aug 17, 2015 22:36:48 GMT -5
Paul understands that part of promo cutting with a live mic, Cena still needs to learn that. But when you have an infinite leash with the boss, you don't have to learn. Someone else notorious for burying guys on the mic, HHH. But I don't think he was that blatant. I feel like Trips never did that as blatantly as Cena does on a constant basis. I dont ever remember HHH being THAT bad. Cena runs down his opponents verbally, then makes them look like a joke by beating them clean. Its a double whammy for the opponent. There is a reason why so many of Cenas opponents leave their feud with him FAR worse off than they did when they came in. If Rollins loses this Sunday after that verbal burial, Thatll be the final straw that breaks the camels back for me. He already tapped out to him once a few weeks ago. How much worst does it need to get for Seth?
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Post by Joey Cush on Aug 17, 2015 22:37:54 GMT -5
Why this isnt a No DQ or No Holds Barred match just makes my brain hurt. They might make it No DQ at the last minute. They used to do that all the time in the 90s/early 2000s. I think Mania 27 they made Taker vs. Triple H No DQ at the last minute. They may do that but it should have been announced weeks in advance. Build this match to be a bigger deal. If it's a one on one match, it can go the same route as HHH/Orton @wm25. This match is meant to be a fight, not a one on one wrestling match
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Post by cmiller79 on Aug 17, 2015 22:38:50 GMT -5
The kid in me loved taker closing raw...well hell I guess the adult me does too i have a nostalgic soft spot for the dead man
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Post by cmiller79 on Aug 17, 2015 22:41:35 GMT -5
They might make it No DQ at the last minute. They used to do that all the time in the 90s/early 2000s. I think Mania 27 they made Taker vs. Triple H No DQ at the last minute. They may do that but it should have been announced weeks in advance. Build this match to be a bigger deal. If it's a one on one match, it can go the same route as HHH/Orton @wm25. This match is meant to be a fight, not a one on one wrestling match if any match needs that stipulation its this one
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