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Post by Rob on Aug 17, 2015 22:42:00 GMT -5
I dont see Taker/Lesnar ending cleanly. I feel like they are going to beat the crapout of each other in a DQ then build up a retirement match with Taker at Mania with him going into the HOF.
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Post by jdfranchise on Aug 17, 2015 22:42:16 GMT -5
I feel like Trips never did that as blatantly as Cena does on a constant basis. triple h did it but he didn't just come out say it the way cena does I mean of course you take digs at the guy, but there's a way to do it. |
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Post by jdfranchise on Aug 17, 2015 22:44:24 GMT -5
It's Vince. He probably only see's it as a shot towards Punk. yeah i think because punk beat vince at his own game in the court room and he just cant let it go i kinda feel bad for a.j her childhood dream & being one of the best women's wrestlers in the world and because of who she married it don't matter anymore in wwe or should I say Vince's eyes it must really suck to be punished for who you love I feel bad for AJ too, but she and Punk seem happier. |
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Post by Rob on Aug 17, 2015 22:48:40 GMT -5
Eat
Sleep
Kick Dick
Repeat
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Post by hbklique1 on Aug 17, 2015 22:58:51 GMT -5
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Post by jdfranchise on Aug 17, 2015 23:09:30 GMT -5
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Post by Arthur Speaks on Aug 17, 2015 23:10:22 GMT -5
They might make it No DQ at the last minute. They used to do that all the time in the 90s/early 2000s. I think Mania 27 they made Taker vs. Triple H No DQ at the last minute. They may do that but it should have been announced weeks in advance. Build this match to be a bigger deal. If it's a one on one match, it can go the same route as HHH/Orton @wm25. This match is meant to be a fight, not a one on one wrestling match Exactly. I want to see Undertaker and Lesnar destroy each other. |
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Post by jdfranchise on Aug 17, 2015 23:16:47 GMT -5
So does anyone know for sure if BRAWK!/Taker is going on last?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 23:39:09 GMT -5
I also don't understand the booking of the Taker/Lesnar feud. Not hating it, actually I'm very entertained but I'm also really confused about what I'm supposed to think.
The Undertaker is currently the greatest legend left still wrestling in the WWE and is in his 25th active year with the company. He's presumably very close to the end and we only get to see him on very rare occasions these days, and tv is even more rare. Is setting him up to look bad or be booed in 2015 really the way to go? Aren't we supposed to be celebrating his "resurrection" and his 25th anniversary? Isn't there a DVD, and a book and a small tour coming up? I don't understand what they're doing.
Somehow having a confusing segment with The Undertaker of all people being booed on the go home show before Summerslam in 2015 feels like something failed somewhere. Why would they want to do that? I can think of a bunch of scenarios they could have done in which Taker appeared in Brock's hometown tonight that WOULDN'T have seen him actually get booed. If it was organic or natural it would be one thing, but they are undoubtedly setting him up for it. Hyping and celebrating Brock's return to the city and the crowd as his hometown crowd and having this be his grand "homecoming," then having Heyman cut another masterful promo right before Undertaker interrupts to kick Brock in the balls like only heels do. How is that NOT going to inspire boos after all of that? They would have had to have known that would happen or is Vince really that dense? They don't need anyone to be heel or be booed in this feud to sell it and I can't understand why set Undertaker up to look like this and get booed so close to the end for him.
As an Undertaker mark for 25 years who still feels that deep appreciation and excitement for every last time we get to see him these days, I just can't help but feel truly disappointed with where they're going with him. Vince has a habit of ruining everything great and I always viewed and hoped Undertaker would be the exception. I guess I was wrong. Even his greatest creation is going to get ruined at the very end.  |
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Post by jdfranchise on Aug 17, 2015 23:44:23 GMT -5
I also don't understand the booking of the Taker/Lesnar feud. Not hating it, actually I'm very entertained but I'm also really confused about what I'm supposed to think.
The Undertaker is currently the greatest legend left still wrestling in the WWE and is in his 25th active year with the company. He's presumably very close to the end and we only get to see him on very rare occasions these days, and tv is even more rare. Is setting him up to look bad or be booed in 2015 really the way to go? Aren't we supposed to be celebrating his "resurrection" and his 25th anniversary? Isn't there a DVD, and a book and a small tour coming up? I don't understand what they're doing.
Somehow having a confusing segment with The Undertaker of all people being booed on the go home show before Summerslam in 2015 feels like something failed somewhere. Why would they want to do that? I can think of a bunch of scenarios they could have done in which Taker appeared in Brock's hometown tonight that WOULDN'T have seen him actually get booed. If it was organic or natural it would be one thing, but they are undoubtedly setting him up for it. Hyping and celebrating Brock's return to the city and the crowd as his hometown crowd and having this be his grand "homecoming," then having Heyman cut another masterful promo right before Undertaker interrupts to kick Brock in the balls like only heels do. How is that NOT going to inspire boos after all of that? They would have had to have known that would happen or is Vince really that dense? They don't need anyone to be heel or be booed in this feud to sell it and I can't understand why set Undertaker up to look like this and get booed so close to the end for him.
As an Undertaker mark for 25 years who still feels that deep appreciation and excitement for every last time we get to see him these days, I just can't help but feel truly disappointed with where they're going with him. Vince has a habit of ruining everything great and I always viewed and hoped Undertaker would be the exception. I guess I was wrong. Even his greatest creation is going to get ruined at the very end. If we looked up gluttony in the encyclopedia, pretty sure Vince would be pictured. The man doesn't seem to know when he's doing more harm than good. Sure he's genius, but he forgot to keep the finger on the pulse. |
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Post by cmiller79 on Aug 17, 2015 23:55:26 GMT -5
So does anyone know for sure if BRAWK!/Taker is going on last? yeah they said it was the main event |
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Aug 17, 2015 23:57:17 GMT -5
I just don't care and i'm a big fan of both.
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Post by A-Rob on Aug 18, 2015 0:01:26 GMT -5
Raw was flat tonight. Paul Heyman singing was awesome but couldn't save the show.
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Aug 18, 2015 1:16:36 GMT -5
So, Cena is a disease? LOL.
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Post by jdfranchise on Aug 18, 2015 1:44:57 GMT -5
Raw was flat tonight. Paul Heyman singing was awesome but couldn't save the show. Agreed, Paul was stellar as usual tonight. But even as good as he is, as consistently as he is, you can't turn a poorly planned show around with half a segment. Also on the subject of the closing segment, it just astounds me how great Brock's physical charisma's is. We know his speaking skills are something terrible when it's more than a couple short sentences. But when Paul is carrying the hype and Brock is just standing there bouncing up and down with that smirk, I swear it's such a presence. Just a thought. |
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Post by 0,Y on Aug 18, 2015 3:14:10 GMT -5
That was a bizarre episode of Raw. Can't wait for SummerSlam even though I won't be able to watch it live.
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Post by Daria on Aug 18, 2015 8:39:06 GMT -5
Second time in a row where the last raw on Monday before summer slam was off
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Aug 18, 2015 8:46:00 GMT -5
Not sure why WWE is making Undertaker almost the heel here. He was heavily boo'd last night. A lot of that had to do with it being in Minnesota, but that's not like Undertaker's character to go for low blows, and it didn't make sense for him to cost Brock the belt a Battleground when they both were in the same building at WrestleMania and he could have caused Brock to lose the belt then.
This whole thing doesn't make any sense and I think the only reason Undertaker is appearing at SummerSlam is because Vince McMahon is desperate for Network Subscribers.
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 18, 2015 9:35:15 GMT -5
Enjoyed the Rollins promo. Actually, I thought it was damn awesome. Ditto for him asking for a statue haha. Too bad it was followed by "Same old sh*t" Cena. That's as terrible as Cena has been on the mic in a long, long, time, and he's been mailing it in for awhile now. We've reached a true benchmark in WWE. No character in WWE history has ever grown this stale without a single effort to make any adjustments. Why worry about the water supply when you can just run the well dry.
Ziggler return was awesome.
Heyman was great.
That was Raw.
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Post by J12 on Aug 18, 2015 11:45:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I've heard some grumblings that maybe Brock wins Sunday and Taker wins in a rematch at Mania 32. To me, Lesnar should win this match and that's the end of it. The next guy that beats Brock needs to be really special in the present. It should mean something. Brock losing to Taker is WWE admitting that ending the streak was a mistake. but it was. like in the moment, yes, it was unreal. the fact it happened, one of the craziest things ever. so i get it. but in the bigger picture, it should have never happened. for all he's done in this business, Undertaker should have retired undefeated at Wrestlemania. Personally, I'm fine with it. But, regardless, whether WWE feels that way or not, they shouldn't be showing it. They did it, now they need to commit to it. Having Brock lose to Taker diminishes the impact it had. As far as Lesnar's losses go, I like Paul Heyman's explanation the best. There are two portions to Brock Lesnar's second WWE run - the first one ended sometime in 2013, either after the Triple H feud or after the Punk feud. Take your pick. That was Lesnar still battling the effects of diverticulitis and getting back into the swing of things (as Heyman stated.) The second half, beginning with Big Show at Royal Rumble 2014, is a 100% healthy Brock Lesnar. That works for me. |
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