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Post by "The Perfect Ten" Mizard on Sept 22, 2015 6:44:23 GMT -5
After watching raw last night I have to say that WWE has no problem with future stars looking weak but always makes it old talent look strong ( with exception of Mark Henry). Cesaro was crushed by Big Show. Bo Dallas was killed by Ryback. Even Seth Rollins was dragged under the ring by the 50 year old Kane. Also the Dudley Boyz two fat old men are seen as competition for 3 young athletic competitors. I wish WWE would start taking the younger talent more seriously because big show isn't gonna be around forever (I hope not).
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Post by jayrod2009 on Sept 22, 2015 6:59:26 GMT -5
Big Show is slated to face Brock Lesnar. He has to look strong for his inevitable squash at MSG.
Bo lost to Ryback to show his anger towards Kevin Owens.
The Dudleys are there to enhance New Day. Which, has been the most entertaining thing in WWE for awhile. New Day Rocks! The Trumbone and Xavier are the best parts of Raw.
Kane.... I'm more interested in Kane now since his Team Hell No days. I like his schizophrenic character.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 7:11:44 GMT -5
Since when was Ryback "old"? Bo was and is only going to be a comedy character. He's basically a jobber to the stars.
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Post by grandmasterPRA on Sept 22, 2015 7:18:42 GMT -5
I kinda see your point. I actually feel this way mostly with Cena than the ones you mentioned. Bray Wyatt was picking up steam so he had to lose to Cena cleany several times. Rusev was undefeated and then had to lose to Cena cleanly multiple times. Kevin Owens was given one victory before losing cleanly to Cena multiple times, and now Seth Rollins has lost cleanly to Cena two nights in a row...That's 4 future stars that have had to job to Cena instead of the other way around. But will Roman Reigns ever need to job to Cena? probably not. I understand he isn't a heel but even faces have been victim to jobbing to Cena. Just look at Cesaro.....I'm seriously tired of it. Respect the hell out of the guy, but he has been in the way of progress for years now.
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Post by "The Perfect Ten" Mizard on Sept 22, 2015 8:33:05 GMT -5
Since when was Ryback "old"? Bo was and is only going to be a comedy character. He's basically a jobber to the stars. In NXT Bo was treated as a main event heel like Jericho or Rollins. |
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Post by marino13 on Sept 22, 2015 8:43:02 GMT -5
Big Show is slated to face Brock Lesnar. He has to look strong for his inevitable squash at MSG. Bo lost to Ryback to show his anger towards Kevin Owens. The Dudleys are there to enhance New Day. Which, has been the most entertaining thing in WWE for awhile. New Day Rocks! The Trumbone and Xavier are the best parts of Raw. Kane.... I'm more interested in Kane now since his Team Hell No days. I like his schizophrenic character. Boom... All of this!! |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 22, 2015 8:47:32 GMT -5
Ryback beating Bo was fine. While I'd like Bo to have more to do, he's currently a jobber and that was fine. To be honest though, Ryback actually should have had an easier win to show how pissed he was about losing the title.
The Dudleys and New Day will trade wins for the most part.
The only thing I had an issue with was Show over Cesaro. I get that Show has to win to promote the MSG show but he should have just squashed Fandango, Adam Rose, Heath Slater or even all three of them at once instead of Cesaro.
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Post by torriefan4life on Sept 22, 2015 8:49:31 GMT -5
How can this thread be real after what they did to Sting at NOC?
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Post by Mr Wrestling Jr. on Sept 22, 2015 9:06:11 GMT -5
Since when was Ryback "old"? Bo was and is only going to be a comedy character. He's basically a jobber to the stars. In NXT Bo was treated as a main event heel like Jericho or Rollins. I'm still hoping he'll do his NXT character again. He wasn't full on BO-lieving Bo, but a cocky arrogant better than you guy. Sorta like The New Day. He was great on NXT. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 9:13:17 GMT -5
Take a Look at Seth Rollins Look who hes facing.Sting,Lesnar,Cena and Kane feature Hall of Famers and there putting him over regardless if he cheats or wins clean he still walks out as champion.
Take a Look at Charlotte she defeated Nikki Bella WWEs top Diva Nikki did put her over.And Now Charlotte is champ.
The New Day is Facing off Againts The Dudley Boyz another future hall of famers.
Kevin owens went over Cena.
WWE is doing fine putting new talent over.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Sept 22, 2015 9:48:59 GMT -5
Fat? Bubbas in the best shape of his career and has been for quite a few years.
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Post by Tyler Black on Sept 22, 2015 9:55:32 GMT -5
We all know im the first person to bitch about the mis treatment of the next generation of talent, but everything was fine last night besides Cesaro who was building momentum again, get knocked down a peg my big show. Cena pinning the world champ clean two nights in a row pissed me off too, but that's not really an issue, Seth's still the man. i find this split personality Kane to be the most intresting Kane, possibly ever. There's TONS of possibilities to go with this. Im excited for it
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Post by J12 on Sept 22, 2015 10:19:26 GMT -5
There's no harm in Ryback beating Bo Dallas. Bo is the kind of character that can be effective when losing. Not in this particularly scenario, but come on. He has no credibility to begin with, this isn't going to do anything. Plus, Ryback isn't old. He's part of this newer generation. He may not be very good, but he's a serviceable mid-card guy who needed to rebound from a loss. No harm there.
The Dudley Boyz are there to put New Day over, and bring credibility to the tag division. They're doing both. Again, no issue.
Kane and Seth Rollins has been brewing for months. It's the fall doldrums and they've got a huge match to headline Hell in a Cell already. This is the perfect time to blow off their inevitable feud and give Seth a nice win, even though it probably won't be clean. And I'm someone who absolutely cannot stand Kane.
The only point you have is Big Show/Cesaro. We've seen this story before, and we know where it's going. Show is going to get fed to Lesnar (as he should.) The problem is, they don't need to hype up Show before he has a big match - his presence should do that for him. Big Show has built in credibility, or, at least he should. The fact that they need to put Big Show in a bunch of borderline squash matches to infer his credibility to face Brock Lesnar is a testament to how badly he (and by extension, the rest of the roster) has been mishandled. Meanwhile, Cesaro is getting the Ziggler treatment.
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Post by "The Perfect Ten" Mizard on Sept 22, 2015 10:33:26 GMT -5
Fat? Bubbas in the best shape of his career and has been for quite a few years. He looks chubby again tbh |
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Post by J12 on Sept 22, 2015 10:34:15 GMT -5
Fat? Bubbas in the best shape of his career and has been for quite a few years. He looks chubby again tbh He did put a bunch of weight back on. Doesn't seem to be inhibiting him too badly, though. |
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Post by "The Perfect Ten" Mizard on Sept 22, 2015 10:36:29 GMT -5
He looks chubby again tbh He did put a bunch of weight back on. Doesn't seem to be inhibiting him too badly, though. Bubba has always been able to wrestle good when he's fat. I actually prefer him because he looks more intimidating. |
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Post by "The Perfect Ten" Mizard on Sept 22, 2015 10:39:14 GMT -5
How can this thread be real after what they did to Sting at NOC? If Sting was a WWE guy they wouldn't have done that to him. They just want to show that WCW/ TNA isn't on the same level as WWE. |
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Post by jayrod2009 on Sept 22, 2015 10:45:38 GMT -5
How can this thread be real after what they did to Sting at NOC? If Sting was a WWE guy they wouldn't have done that to him. They just want to show that WCW/ TNA isn't on the same level as WWE. Can we get past the "WWE burying WCW's legacy" thing, they make miney off of a company thats been dead for 14 years. We all know that Vince will cash in on any WCW star/angle if it draws money. Look at The Invasion, Steiner, nWo, Goldberg, Booker T, Jericho, Big Show, etc..,. We have a US title! Thats not a WWE gimmick, thats a WCW/NWA title. Can anyone hust think, maybe Sting wants to make young stars, and not carry any gold. He's made history, he's not here to make more. |
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Sept 22, 2015 11:09:37 GMT -5
If Sting was a WWE guy they wouldn't have done that to him. They just want to show that WCW/ TNA isn't on the same level as WWE. Can we get past the "WWE burying WCW's legacy" thing, they make miney off of a company thats been dead for 14 years. We all know that Vince will cash in on any WCW star/angle if it draws money. Look at The Invasion, Steiner, nWo, Goldberg, Booker T, Jericho, Big Show, etc..,. We have a US title! Thats not a WWE gimmick, thats a WCW/NWA title. Can anyone hust think, maybe Sting wants to make young stars, and not carry any gold. He's made history, he's not here to make more.Just once (if he can wrestle again. ) Sting...just once. |
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Post by jayrod2009 on Sept 22, 2015 11:17:52 GMT -5
Can we get past the "WWE burying WCW's legacy" thing, they make miney off of a company thats been dead for 14 years. We all know that Vince will cash in on any WCW star/angle if it draws money. Look at The Invasion, Steiner, nWo, Goldberg, Booker T, Jericho, Big Show, etc..,. We have a US title! Thats not a WWE gimmick, thats a WCW/NWA title. Can anyone hust think, maybe Sting wants to make young stars, and not carry any gold. He's made history, he's not here to make more.Just once (if he can wrestle again. ) Sting...just once. Don't get me wrong. I'm all for Sting running with the title. Yea, it may hurt Seth. Yea, it really makes zero sence, but how cool would it be wo see Sting with the WWE title? In wrestling, with all logic included, if you aren't chasing gold, why bother? |
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