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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 28, 2015 22:52:58 GMT -5
I would feel about her exactly as I do now: decent but nothing particularly special in the ring, atrocious actress, annoying personality. The fact that she's dating Cena is of very little concern to me. That's completely fine I'm not forcing anyone to like them.I just feel theres too much blind hate for the bellas. The Bellas are the last of "that breed" that wrestling fans want rid of. We've gone 10-15 years of having fitness models make a shame of out of womens wrestling. They were clearly hired for their looks & not their ability & passion. Now we're getting women who have passion & desire to be wrestlers and who are paying their dues before ever stepping into a WWE ring.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 23:02:06 GMT -5
I just Don't understand the hate towards Nikki Bella.I mean if she wasn't dating cena at all how would you feel about her then? Why do so many people care about who is dating who?. The Bellas have had hate for a long time, even before they were dating Cena and Bryan. They are of the "we're models" mold and not the "we're wrestlers" mold. That may not be a fair assessment, but it's how a lot of people perceive them. For me at least, the fact that she's dating Cena means nothing to me. I've given her credit for the things she does well and I've discussed the things I think she doesn't do well. I understand but when it gets silly like calling them fat or using the cena excuse it just becomes stupid imo.Its like me saying "I hate Charlotte because shes ric flairs daughter" or "HHH would be nothing without his wife" completey ignoring what they actually bring to the table.This is AJ lee all over again because for some reason she became "The female CM Punk" when she was far from one.It's atrocious these days I tell ya.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 23:06:34 GMT -5
That's completely fine I'm not forcing anyone to like them.I just feel theres too much blind hate for the bellas. The Bellas are the last of "that breed" that wrestling fans want rid of. We've gone 10-15 years of having fitness models make a shame of out of womens wrestling. They were clearly hired for their looks & not their ability & passion. Now we're getting women who have passion & desire to be wrestlers and who are paying their dues before ever stepping into a WWE ring. I understand that as well I mean I'll admit I did roll my eyes when WWE would sign models.But I also realize that we gotta start somewhere and if someone offered me tons of Money and free training skills then hell yeah I'll take it.I can't knock on anyones hustle to get to the top.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 28, 2015 23:14:56 GMT -5
Cena has all the pull in the world. I mean he aint gonna bury Rock, HHH, UT.....but pretty much whatever else he wants he will get. At the same time, Cena is intelligent. He picks his battles and looks to improve business. Its not all ego for him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 0:40:48 GMT -5
I don't think Fat Nikki Bella had the longest Divas reign because of John Cena, but I do believe Nikki being shoved down the fans throats does have something to do with her banging Cena. Fat?? Remember, when we dislike a Diva, she's automatically fat now.
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Post by King Silva on Sept 29, 2015 1:42:30 GMT -5
There is NO way Cena doesn't have some pull so she needs to listen to this video: In spoiler due to language..
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Post by A-Rob on Sept 29, 2015 2:47:09 GMT -5
In other news Nikki is a pathological lier.
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Post by The neferious brotha Hargrove on Sept 29, 2015 5:42:48 GMT -5
Well cena is going balls deep in her so , he can probably get her to say whatever he wants
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 29, 2015 6:58:37 GMT -5
The Bellas have had hate for a long time, even before they were dating Cena and Bryan. They are of the "we're models" mold and not the "we're wrestlers" mold. That may not be a fair assessment, but it's how a lot of people perceive them. For me at least, the fact that she's dating Cena means nothing to me. I've given her credit for the things she does well and I've discussed the things I think she doesn't do well. I understand but when it gets silly like calling them fat or using the cena excuse it just becomes stupid imo.Its like me saying "I hate Charlotte because shes ric flairs daughter" or "HHH would be nothing without his wife" completey ignoring what they actually bring to the table.This is AJ lee all over again because for some reason she became "The female CM Punk" when she was far from one.It's atrocious these days I tell ya. There have been threads here about how people don't like Charlotte because she's Flair's daughter. There are threads here with people calling Paige fat. It happens to everyone, not just the Bella Twins. Also, I like AJ Lee, but she did become a bit Punk like near the end of her run, right down to not really caring while in the ring.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 7:13:03 GMT -5
I understand but when it gets silly like calling them fat or using the cena excuse it just becomes stupid imo.Its like me saying "I hate Charlotte because shes ric flairs daughter" or "HHH would be nothing without his wife" completey ignoring what they actually bring to the table.This is AJ lee all over again because for some reason she became "The female CM Punk" when she was far from one.It's atrocious these days I tell ya. There have been threads here about how people don't like Charlotte because she's Flair's daughter. There are threads here with people calling Paige fat. It happens to everyone, not just the Bella Twins. Also, I like AJ Lee, but she did become a bit Punk like near the end of her run, right down to not really caring while in the ring. Totally agree about AJ. You could see in her eyes that she just didn't care anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 7:45:33 GMT -5
I understand but when it gets silly like calling them fat or using the cena excuse it just becomes stupid imo.Its like me saying "I hate Charlotte because shes ric flairs daughter" or "HHH would be nothing without his wife" completey ignoring what they actually bring to the table.This is AJ lee all over again because for some reason she became "The female CM Punk" when she was far from one.It's atrocious these days I tell ya. There have been threads here about how people don't like Charlotte because she's Flair's daughter. There are threads here with people calling Paige fat. It happens to everyone, not just the Bella Twins. Also, I like AJ Lee, but she did become a bit Punk like near the end of her run, right down to not really caring while in the ring. The fans didnt care about her either with the amount of cm punk chants she constantly received the girl couldn't even cut a promo without a punk chant.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Sept 29, 2015 8:02:09 GMT -5
Nikki can talk all she wants about earning it and John Cena having no pull....but she's in the same boat as Triple H was when everyone discredited his entire career after he got involved with Stephanie McMahon.
It's a hard case to sell. Her boyfriend is John Cena, and her step father is John Laurinitis!!! She can say she gets no preferential treatment, but it's such a conflict of interest. Especially when you have FAR more talented women in the company, yet Nikki is still the focal point. At least Triple H could back it up. It's not like Stephanie was with Gillberg and they put the strap on him....it was TRIPLE H! The man was a World Champion and a potential Hall of Famer even in 1999! He wouldn't have the CORPORATE job that he has in WWE now, but as far as I'm concerned, Triple H's WRESTLING CAREER speaks for itself.
Nikki, on the other hand.....I'm sorry. I don't see it. Yes, she's IMPROVED, but she's nowhere near the most talented Diva in the company.
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Post by Daria on Sept 29, 2015 8:05:56 GMT -5
It's funny how people constantly go at the Bella's for total divas but forget Natalya and Paige are on it lol, and even Sasha Banks said she'd do total divas. Nikki is a great wrestler and I think the only thing she lacks in is targeting body's for no reason and sometimes she can be bad on the mic.
If Cena had some type of pull Nikki would still be champion. Nikki would have been champion as soon as they returned in 2013, she would've won at wrestlemania and dethroned aj, I thinks it's just the misogynistic guys that think A woman has to sleep around in order to be successful in wwe.
Sure she's no Sasha or Becky or Bayley but to say these women don't have passion (especially when they're dating two of the best wrestlers ever) is ridiculous.
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Post by DestroyerOfNations on Sept 29, 2015 8:52:01 GMT -5
If you honestly believe John Cena has no pull in the direction of the company then you are sorely mistaken. I fully believe that he has lobbied for her at the very least. And I'm not knocking Nikki at all, I'm just saying John Cena has all the pull in the world.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 8:57:43 GMT -5
John Cena could crap on Vince's desk, shove Steph's face in it, and Vince would laugh and say "good one, John!"
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 29, 2015 9:19:59 GMT -5
It's funny how people constantly go at the Bella's for total divas but forget Natalya and Paige are on it lol, and even Sasha Banks said she'd do total divas. Nikki is a great wrestler and I think the only thing she lacks in is targeting body's for no reason and sometimes she can be bad on the mic. If Cena had some type of pull Nikki would still be champion. Nikki would have been champion as soon as they returned in 2013, she would've won at wrestlemania and dethroned aj, I thinks it's just the misogynistic guys that think A woman has to sleep around in order to be successful in wwe. Sure she's no Sasha or Becky or Bayley but to say these women don't have passion (especially when they're dating two of the best wrestlers ever) is ridiculous. I can't chalk it up all to misogyny. People do think Triple H slept to the top and he's a man. For me, I don't go at anyone for being on Total Divas. It gets you more exposure and money, so I can't knock that. I didn't think any less of Paige or Natalya or anyone else for going on the show. I disagree when you say Nikki is great, especially since you say she isn't Sasha/Becky/Bayley. Those girls are great and if Nikki isn't as good as them, which she isn't, she can't be great. She's good at best.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 9:53:31 GMT -5
Meh. Whatever.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 11:08:30 GMT -5
John Cena certainly does have pull backstage in WWE. All the top guys have/had pull. Its ludicrous to assume otherwise. We even have proof of Cenas pull(and admittance of his own stroke being a bad thing at the time) over the Summerslam 2010 mess.
However I don't believe Cenas "pull" backstage had anything to do with her reign....
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Post by cordless2016 on Sept 29, 2015 14:49:46 GMT -5
I don't think Cena had anything to do with her reign but he has pull. Just ask Jericho, Edge, and Wade Barrett.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 29, 2015 16:48:45 GMT -5
It's silly to think Cena doesn't have any pull. Every top guy in history has pull in WWE, and John Cena's had the longest run on top of anyone since the WrestleMania era began.
It's also silly to think he uses that pull to keep the divas title on his girlfriend, who doesn't currently have the divas title.
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