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Post by Wato Stan Account on Oct 3, 2015 19:23:11 GMT -5
When two women do that to each other in Japan it's the greatest women's wrestling on the planet. Totally different outside of one recent incident that lead to a woman being basically banned from wrestling. Japan wrestles a different style from America, both male and female. They also are still trained wrestlers who take stiff shots. They may hit hard but also know how to control their strength to not knock someone out who isn't expecting what's coming. Eva clearly doesn't fit any of that. When will people stop using comparisons they don't even understand?
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Post by @HartAttvcks on Oct 4, 2015 7:20:52 GMT -5
To all of you over reacting just for the sake of bashing her... Saying things like " She sucks and now she's injuring people, omg!" Well, she injured one person, and it wasn't entirely her fault.
1. They were both green, NXT is STILL DEVELOPMENTAL. Accidents happen in wrestling, both ladies were inexperienced and it was a recipe for disaster.
2. This is the first time Eva has ever been in a match where someone has ended up injured.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 7:29:04 GMT -5
I am a fan of Eva but she isn't safe in the ring and shouldn't be there. But you cannot just say it's all Eva's fault she gotta go, I hope Carmella is okay and has a good and fast recovery!
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Post by Midnight on Oct 4, 2015 11:08:34 GMT -5
I agree Eva please retire.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 12:35:33 GMT -5
Not Carmella's biggest fan but I don't wish injury on anyone, I hope she has a speedy recovery. As for Eva, accidents do happen and both are still green so I'm not gonna get on her case about it, she's not ready to be in the ring and WWE should've realised that before they put her back on TV.
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Post by The neferious brotha Hargrove on Oct 4, 2015 12:51:09 GMT -5
Eva Marie >>>>>>>> Daniel Bryan
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Post by RV F'N D on Oct 4, 2015 14:10:38 GMT -5
Eva is pretty hot, but that's all. She should go do some "modeling", or something else. But she just doesn't belong in a ring, or near a mic. There are a dozen plus women already on the roster who are way more talented than her, (including Carmella, but this isn't about the injury) and she shouldn't be taking up a spot. If they released her, do you really think she'd hit the indies because she just loves wrestling?
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Oct 4, 2015 15:02:34 GMT -5
Seriously Eva has a botch almost every single match, when is it going to be time to shut the door on her for good?
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Post by JC Motors on Oct 4, 2015 15:56:26 GMT -5
Seriously Eva has a botch almost every single match, when is it going to be time to shut the door on her for good? Nobody said that about the original Sin Cara
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Post by Joey Cush on Oct 4, 2015 16:00:32 GMT -5
Seriously Eva has a botch almost every single match, when is it going to be time to shut the door on her for good? Nobody said that about the original Sin Cara Are you sure about that?
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Post by JC Motors on Oct 4, 2015 16:02:00 GMT -5
Nobody said that about the original Sin Cara Are you sure about that? I remember people complaining about him botching moves in the Monday Night Raw threads. That's about it
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Post by marino13 on Oct 4, 2015 16:12:04 GMT -5
Not excusing Eva, but please don't forget Camella is awfully new also. In this case, green + green = a recipe for disaster. An injury was bound to happen.
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Post by skribbel24 on Oct 4, 2015 16:43:32 GMT -5
Accidents happen, but it sucks that it involved Eva. Haters will have more reason to hate now.
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Post by Joey Cush on Oct 4, 2015 19:25:05 GMT -5
I remember people complaining about him botching moves in the Monday Night Raw threads. That's about it I remember once he was suspended and Hunico first started as the new Sin Cara, people were done with Mistico. So it all does lead into the same problem, if you cant do your job then you shouldnt be there. The issue with Eva is she is really just a pretty face/body that WWE is training to be a Diva. And they want results now,while Total Divas is still hot, so thats why she is featured while not ready.
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Post by JC Motors on Oct 4, 2015 19:48:22 GMT -5
I remember people complaining about him botching moves in the Monday Night Raw threads. That's about it I remember once he was suspended and Hunico first started as the new Sin Cara, people were done with Mistico. So it all does lead into the same problem, if you cant do your job then you shouldnt be there. The issue with Eva is she is really just a pretty face/body that WWE is training to be a Diva. And they want results now,while Total Divas is still hot, so thats why she is featured while not ready. Eva Marie was brought in outta nowhere to be on Total Divas. She probably didn't want to be a wrestler
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Post by Joey Cush on Oct 4, 2015 19:51:48 GMT -5
I remember once he was suspended and Hunico first started as the new Sin Cara, people were done with Mistico. So it all does lead into the same problem, if you cant do your job then you shouldnt be there. The issue with Eva is she is really just a pretty face/body that WWE is training to be a Diva. And they want results now,while Total Divas is still hot, so thats why she is featured while not ready. Eva Marie was brought in outta nowhere to be on Total Divas. She probably didn't want to be a wrestler Which is also why she gets even more flack. So in retrospect, this is all WWE's fault. Lol
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Post by JC Motors on Oct 4, 2015 21:02:12 GMT -5
Eva Marie was brought in outta nowhere to be on Total Divas. She probably didn't want to be a wrestler Which is also why she gets even more flack. So in retrospect, this is all WWE's fault. Lol Well it's not Snitsky's fault that's for sure
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Post by @.@ Hempsterdance @.@ on Oct 5, 2015 8:21:14 GMT -5
People just crap on Eva cause it's the cool thing to do. This kind of stuff is expected from her. no people hate on her because she can't wrestle.
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Post by BOOKER_T on Oct 5, 2015 10:25:17 GMT -5
I really doubt Eva will ever be fired since in Vince's eyes she is a big star. She is one of the top girls on Total Divas, and I think to Vince, the show Total Divas is more important than Divas wrestling. Eva can mess up all she wants, and injure other females, and suck in the ring greatly, Vince will still end up putting the Divas Title on her eventually. Sad but true. Pretty much sums it up
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 11:07:44 GMT -5
Ugh. I've been holding back on getting involved in this thread but there are several things that need to be addressed here.
Instead of looking at the Carmella injury as one single incident, you need to look at the totality of the circumstances. It's no secret Eva Marie is struggling in the ring. In fact, there hasn't really been much improvement since joining NXT, tbh. If you take the fact that Eva Marie is piss poor in the ring and combine it with hurting Carmella then it becomes apparent she clearly needs more training and probably shouldn't be wrestling on TV at this point. When someone who is already a poor wrestler hurts someone, there will certainly be more backlash than if it were a good, solid, polished wrestler who accidentally hurt someone.
That takes us to the Seth Rollins and Samoa Joe comparisons. Did Seth hurt Cena? Yes. Did Joe hurt Kidd? Maybe. Either way, both Seth and Joe are extremely knowledgeable, good and polished wrestlers. For them to hurt someone is most certainly a rarity. Injuries do happen in wrestling and even the best of wrestlers have probably hurt someone accidentally in their career. However, it's a rarity for it to happen.
My point being, Eva Marie is garbage in the ring. Therefore, her hurting someone is a much bigger deal because it shows she is still struggling to do things safely. On the other hand, someone like Seth Rollins or Samoa Joe hurting someone would just be chalked up as an accident. These same rules apply in any job. If you're a new hire as a taxi driver and get into a crash during your first month at work after already making it apparent you are a crappy driver, you are going to receive more flak for it than the guy who's been driving safely for 15 years and gets into is first crash.
This is common sense stuff.
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