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Post by LA Times on Oct 13, 2015 22:03:13 GMT -5
Mid 90's early 2000's couldn't think about missing RAW. Now I don't even waste my time with it cause it's the same every week. Hell, back in 2005, I was pissed I had to miss 2 weeks of Raw, one of which was the Tribute to the Troops episode, because I was moving and had to get cable set up. Now, I don't even care. |
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Post by WWE Common Terry on Oct 13, 2015 22:07:36 GMT -5
There's no reason to watch right now. The most exciting thing that happened this week was James Storm debuting and that happened on NXT.
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Post by madness86 on Oct 13, 2015 22:07:41 GMT -5
When I do watch it's also wayyyy too predictable also. They really should bring in some guys from attitude era part time to spice it up at least. Yeah they got the dudleys but its not enough.
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Post by madness86 on Oct 13, 2015 22:08:56 GMT -5
I still think when sting signed they should have done some sort of wcw angle with sting,big show, jericho, Booker t etc.. I believe that would have brought ratings up a bit
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 22:45:46 GMT -5
Good because th show has been awful for months.
Seriously, just cancel this crap and put all WWE programming on the network.
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Oct 13, 2015 23:09:36 GMT -5
It's been piss poor lately. Figures because I knew Kane would pick up the win tonight, knowing it means absolutely nothing...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 0:04:07 GMT -5
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Post by A-Rob on Oct 14, 2015 1:19:03 GMT -5
Wanna know why? Steelers = ratings. Seeing thousands and thousands of Steeler fans in San Diego backs this fact up. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 4:15:24 GMT -5
What's the point in "creating new stars" when every time they try, if the typical IWC/live audience (who watch every week regardless of ratings/quality) reject that star, the same people whom once pushed for WWE to invest in Roman Reigns will be screaming out for his main event push to be squashed in favour of a stop-start push for Cesaro/Ziggler etc.
Then, Cesaro/Ziggler go out and have an absolute slobber knocker of a match on RAW.. New star gets relegated or loses clean.
Ratings decrease. Repeat.
I'm certainly not saying a lack of Roman Reigns directly affects ratings. The "hardcore" WWE fans are the only ones whom prevent "new stars", by either complaining or deciding to invest all of their focus on a specific star that blatently isn't going anywhere. Unfortunately, it isn't "hip" for a WWE fan to get excited about their poor product, it's "hip" for them to complain and watch something else and come online and strike comparison.
The leading example, WWE tried to make a star out of Roman Reigns, and now the poor guy gets boo'ed regardless of what he's doing or where he is on the card. And for what reason? Because he was built the right way? Because he's young? It's as if the minute the Shield split, the simplicity of Reigns push that his live reactions had prompted offended some fans into ensuring he gets a negative reaction. He's a target for fans discontent towards WWE, the poor dude never did anything himself to cause everyone to turn on him. But unfortunately because he's the preferred "star of the future" on a poorly booked show, he's gunna get abused by the crowd regardless of how solid and improved he's become over the summer.
As if anyone is going to pay attention to Reigns improving work rate when they've already decided they don't want him at the top. Blame yourselves, WWE fans. If you'd just cheer the dude, we would have had the long overdue Reigns Vs Rollins for the title instead of Rollins Vs Kane in his 40's.
Before you say "create new stars", ask yourself how you felt about Roman Reigns winning the Royal Rumble. The same people who want WWE to change have been nothing but resistant to change for years now.
My solution? Bring back Daniel Bryan.
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Post by madness86 on Oct 14, 2015 7:17:52 GMT -5
Wwe tried to force Reigns on us like Cena but people just weren't having that crap
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Post by punksnotdead on Oct 14, 2015 8:17:02 GMT -5
I watched the Cubs game, which supersedes everything I watch on TV right now. Even with that though, WWE isn't can't miss live TV anymore. I DVR it, fast forward through the garbage and watch what I want. I thought Rollins vs Kane was pretty good, and I can't stand Kane anymore. The Big E spot helped quite a bit imo. Raw as a whole has been horrendous for weeks though. It's not going to magically get better any time soon.
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Post by TheChamp420 on Oct 14, 2015 8:18:28 GMT -5
DVR
Fast forward
Watch
Repeat
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Post by RV F'N D on Oct 14, 2015 8:25:13 GMT -5
That's what they deserve for the copy and paste nonsense they've been putting out. I want the ratings to get really low, like TNA low, because desperation is the only way we'll ever see any change.
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Post by cmiller79 on Oct 14, 2015 9:08:51 GMT -5
I thought last week was a record low?
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Post by J12 on Oct 14, 2015 9:46:40 GMT -5
I thought last week was a record low? It was. They keep breaking their own records on a weekly basis. In reality, the rating was about equal to the last couple of weeks, but there were less viewers. It rounds out to a 2.3, but they're getting much closer to a 2.2. We know now that there's no real basement, things keep getting worse. Anyway, good. They deserve it. My only hope is that Network subscriptions reflect these ratings so that Vince actually gives a damn, because it's very clear that he couldn't care less about ratings alone. Either that, or he genuinely thinks he's putting on good shows. If that's the case, I don't know what to say. |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Oct 14, 2015 9:50:05 GMT -5
What's the point in "creating new stars" when every time they try, if the typical IWC/live audience (who watch every week regardless of ratings/quality) reject that star, the same people whom once pushed for WWE to invest in Roman Reigns will be screaming out for his main event push to be squashed in favour of a stop-start push for Cesaro/Ziggler etc. Then, Cesaro/Ziggler go out and have an absolute slobber knocker of a match on RAW.. New star gets relegated or loses clean. Ratings decrease. Repeat. I'm certainly not saying a lack of Roman Reigns directly affects ratings. The "hardcore" WWE fans are the only ones whom prevent "new stars", by either complaining or deciding to invest all of their focus on a specific star that blatently isn't going anywhere. Unfortunately, it isn't "hip" for a WWE fan to get excited about their poor product, it's "hip" for them to complain and watch something else and come online and strike comparison. The leading example, WWE tried to make a star out of Roman Reigns, and now the poor guy gets boo'ed regardless of what he's doing or where he is on the card. And for what reason? Because he was built the right way? Because he's young? It's as if the minute the Shield split, the simplicity of Reigns push that his live reactions had prompted offended some fans into ensuring he gets a negative reaction. He's a target for fans discontent towards WWE, the poor dude never did anything himself to cause everyone to turn on him. But unfortunately because he's the preferred "star of the future" on a poorly booked show, he's gunna get abused by the crowd regardless of how solid and improved he's become over the summer. As if anyone is going to pay attention to Reigns improving work rate when they've already decided they don't want him at the top. Blame yourselves, WWE fans. If you'd just cheer the dude, we would have had the long overdue Reigns Vs Rollins for the title instead of Rollins Vs Kane in his 40's. Before you say "create new stars", ask yourself how you felt about Roman Reigns winning the Royal Rumble. The same people who want WWE to change have been nothing but resistant to change for years now. My solution? Bring back Daniel Bryan. You say "every time" when talking about a new star getting rejected but I can really only think of Roman Reigns. The fans rejected it not because it was a new star, but because of the way the push was done. Think about Dean Ambrose in late 2014. The fans absolutely wanted that guy to become a new star. But he was fed to Bray Wyatt before disappearing in the mid-card. It's not about being resistant to change, it was about being resistant to the way it was being done. The fact that some people don't really understand that still baffles me. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 9:59:26 GMT -5
If they don't pick their crapup, I can see them being into 900,000 by the beginning of next year.
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Post by cmiller79 on Oct 14, 2015 10:01:30 GMT -5
I still think when sting signed they should have done some sort of wcw angle with sting,big show, jericho, Booker t etc.. I believe that would have brought ratings up a bit that would have been sweet 15 years sgo |
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Post by mutafan on Oct 14, 2015 11:30:54 GMT -5
the show is pathetic writing sucks and sorry but they are putting on better matches in nxt than on raw.
they need to get rid of the damn pg rating and go back to the style of the attitude era.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 14, 2015 11:55:55 GMT -5
The WWE has come so far with Raw now that there is no turning back.
If Raw went back to 2 hours (or even 1 hour) compared to the 3 hours they are at now, Vince would see that as a decline.
If Raw went back to having paid enhancement talent on their TV show to put over WWE superstars, Vince would see that as a decline (and probably wouldn't be allowed now since Vince wants everyone to go through NXT to learn the craft first).
If the Raw writers started getting creative and give story lines to everyone it still wouldn't matter. Some wrestlers are so far damaged that they wouldn't be believable now in a winning situation or any story line given to them.
NXT may be the best place for entertainment.
It's 1 hour long a week, so you don't get too much of it and get bored.
You don't see the same people every constant week. So when Tyler Breeze or Finn Balor comes out, its exciting since you may not have seen them for a few weeks wrestle.
It's the only place that you can see a surprise wrestler show up at. Recently with James Storm. During the Attitude Era, a James Storm would just show up on Raw to pop a rating and get people talking. Now it happens on NXT.
Smackdown can't really survive well because it's just become a 2 hour show of matches you saw on Raw or were made on Raw to take place on Smackdown. Main Event and Superstars are where the guys who have been jobbed out so much on Raw now appear at. It's just not a good sign. But as long as everyone keeps watching Raw each week (whether you complain about it not) you are still watching it, thus nothing will change. You have to stop watching, and let the ratings fall even farther down so maybe the WWE will eventually wake up and do something different.
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