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Post by Miztery on Nov 16, 2015 23:15:05 GMT -5
Undertaker and Kane drinking prune juice and playing scrabble would have been a better ending to the show.
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Post by marino13 on Nov 16, 2015 23:17:31 GMT -5
Besides the arrangement of a few things, I thought this was a very good show.
Thought Cesaro/Reigns was awesome and should have closed the show.
Kalisto & Del Rio's chemistry wasn't as good as I expected, but I can't wait to see them try again.
Owens & Neville always deliver.
Ambrose vs Ziggler was great as expected.
I liked the parts with Triple H trying to entice each of the participants.
New Day is gold.
BOD vs the Wyatt's is losing me, but I hope for the best Sunday.
Paige & Charlotte started out slow but it picked up. Not sure the Reid part was necessary, but it worked.
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Post by The IT Factor on Nov 16, 2015 23:20:23 GMT -5
That Reid line didn't  ing work. It was completely classless, and the crowd didn't even care. That line was no better than "Eddie's in hell." The rest of RAW was whatever. Owens/Neville had a great match but everything else was nothing to speak of. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 23:20:39 GMT -5
Exactly there at least trying and letting them close a raw is a solid effort and I respect them for that. It's not really an effort if you just do it to say you did it. They haven't put much care into the Charlotte/Paige feud and then they just tossed them into the closing segment, where it felt super out of place. If they really cared about the program, they would have built it up properly to the point where it belonged in the main event. They gave paige mic time several times on past raws dissing Charlotte even cutting her own pipebomb. She beat up becky lynch last week on Raw IN HER HOMETOWN by the way. There trying to make paige the top heel diva and her getting in Charlotte head and making it personal was a solid effort.It leaves Paige looking more evil and Charlotte the heroic babyface they did a good job tonight and I thought the booking was solid. |
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Post by cmiller79 on Nov 16, 2015 23:21:04 GMT -5
They tried ill give them credit for that
the bad FAR outweighed the good in that segment
I mean at least from what I could understand thru the shaky and crying voices
That segment was a mess and for a go home raw it shouldn't have been the main event plus the storyline is terrible at least when brie/steph had their contract signing main event raw it was an awesome storyline
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Post by Evil Abed on Nov 16, 2015 23:21:05 GMT -5
As an overall segment, it wasn't terrible. As the closing segment on the go home show, it failed big time. That was some tasteless bullcrap to get interest in these two's match. That went too far. And I'm sure Charlotte isn't too happy about that, no matter if it was scripted, I'm sure it still broke her heart. Pretty much sums up my feelings on that segment. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 23:22:08 GMT -5
Had those same two divas closed an nxt the interwebs would be losing their minds.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 16, 2015 23:25:01 GMT -5
It's not really an effort if you just do it to say you did it. They haven't put much care into the Charlotte/Paige feud and then they just tossed them into the closing segment, where it felt super out of place. If they really cared about the program, they would have built it up properly to the point where it belonged in the main event. They gave paige mic time several times on past raws dissing Charlotte even cutting her own pipebomb. She beat up becky lynch last week on Raw IN HER HOMETOWN by the way. There trying to make paige the top heel diva and her getting in Charlotte head and making it personal was a solid effort.It leaves Paige looking more evil and Charlotte the heroic babyface they did a good job tonight and I thought the booking was solid. Paige turned heel like two months ago. Then they forgot about it and had PCB continue to team up. Then they had her "officially" turn again a few weeks ago after weeks of pointless six women tag matches. Then Paige beat up Becky Lynch after taking a loss despite being the number one contender. Charlotte made the save but it didn't feel like a big deal at all. Then, after all of that, which didn't feel important, they tried to throw them in the last slot and it felt out of place. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 23:26:12 GMT -5
Honestly this isn't anything new WWE has done stuff like that plenty of times using someone's death as a storyline.Such as Paul heyman dressing up as Paul,The over use of Eddies death to make rey look more of the sympathetic babyface.This is just typical WWE to me.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 16, 2015 23:26:43 GMT -5
Had those same two divas closed an nxt the interwebs would be losing their minds. If the program in NXT was deserving of closing a show, yes. If the program in NXT was built the same way as this, it would have also felt out of place and dumb. There's a reason the Sasha/Becky contract signing didn't close an episode of NXT. It was because the feud wasn't as high profile as some other stuff happening on NXT at the time. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 23:27:51 GMT -5
Had those same two divas closed an nxt the interwebs would be losing their minds. If the program in NXT was deserving of closing a show, yes. If the program in NXT was built the same way as this, it would have also felt out of place and dumb. There's a reason the Sasha/Becky contract signing didn't close an episode of NXT. It was because the feud wasn't as high profile as some other stuff happening on NXT at the time. Cool story. |
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Post by Daws on Nov 16, 2015 23:29:01 GMT -5
When Sasha Banks isn't on RAW.  The only good thing about that last segment was Paige lookin' good and her calling Rick Flair an old fart. |
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Post by ricflair4ever on Nov 16, 2015 23:29:46 GMT -5
I'm glad they're throwing a little emotion, intensity, and even violence into a divas storyline. It just should have been earlier in the show. I mean, i don't like contract signings when its the guys' segment either. Too played out.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 16, 2015 23:30:06 GMT -5
Look, my issue with the close of Raw didn't even have anything to do with them being women or the quality of the segment itself. It's that the program hasn't been handled as a top tier angle.
Like, if the WWE had a mediocre feud between Jack Swagger and Alberto Del Rio brewing and then randomly thrust them into the close of the show, it would feel super out of place too. Just like when Mark Henry and Rusev closed the Raw before Night of Champions last year.
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Post by Daws on Nov 16, 2015 23:31:08 GMT -5
I feel like Paige is doing a really good job as a heel.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 23:32:21 GMT -5
They gave paige mic time several times on past raws dissing Charlotte even cutting her own pipebomb. She beat up becky lynch last week on Raw IN HER HOMETOWN by the way. There trying to make paige the top heel diva and her getting in Charlotte head and making it personal was a solid effort.It leaves Paige looking more evil and Charlotte the heroic babyface they did a good job tonight and I thought the booking was solid. Paige turned heel like two months ago. Then they forgot about it and had PCB continue to team up. Then they had her "officially" turn again a few weeks ago after weeks of pointless six women tag matches. Then Paige beat up Becky Lynch after taking a loss despite being the number one contender. Charlotte made the save but it didn't feel like a big deal at all. Then, after all of that, which didn't feel important, they tried to throw them in the last slot and it felt out of place. Like you said she Officially turned heel a few weeks ago.Becky Cheated by pulling the tights to win which caused paige to attack her. |
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Post by cmiller79 on Nov 16, 2015 23:32:31 GMT -5
Reid didn't have much fight left in him
Really??
Its 2015 almost 2016 i thought we were past using someone's death from a heroin overdose as a way to get heat and not GOOD heat it was classless & trashy
Most casual fans don't know what happened with reid so it was kinda stupid to bring it up NOW the match is Sunday and their fued is PROBABLY almost over so what was the point??
Almost like wwe is saying yeah we fu*ked up this was a terrible storyline but here let us throw this in at the end so you will care
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 16, 2015 23:33:59 GMT -5
Paige turned heel like two months ago. Then they forgot about it and had PCB continue to team up. Then they had her "officially" turn again a few weeks ago after weeks of pointless six women tag matches. Then Paige beat up Becky Lynch after taking a loss despite being the number one contender. Charlotte made the save but it didn't feel like a big deal at all. Then, after all of that, which didn't feel important, they tried to throw them in the last slot and it felt out of place. Like you said she Officially turned heel a few weeks ago.Becky Cheated by pulling the tights to win which caused paige to attack her. Yes, that is what happened. Which happens in a fair amount of midcard programs that shouldn't close Raw either. After Paige's "official" turn, the feud has made sense, but hasn't been booked as a big deal. That's all I'm saying. I don't hate the feud and I think the match will be pretty good. |
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Post by Planktung on Nov 16, 2015 23:33:56 GMT -5
Honestly this isn't anything new WWE has done stuff like that plenty of times using someone's death as a storyline.Such as Paul heyman dressing up as Paul,The over use of Eddies death to make rey look more of the sympathetic babyface.This is just typical WWE to me. That doesn't make it right, though. Bringing up Reid's death to sell a match is just despicable and very, very lazy writing. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 23:36:35 GMT -5
Honestly this isn't anything new WWE has done stuff like that plenty of times using someone's death as a storyline.Such as Paul heyman dressing up as Paul,The over use of Eddies death to make rey look more of the sympathetic babyface.This is just typical WWE to me. That doesn't make it right, though. Bringing up Reid's death to sell a match is just despicable and very, very lazy writing. I never said it was right I don't agree of doing stuff like that.I'm just saying its typical WWE to do that.It's not the first and it's not the last either. |
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