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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 14, 2015 10:39:07 GMT -5
I honestly felt like Paige vs Charlotte last night was good and nowhere near as a horrible match people are making it out to be.Yes the booking was horrible but the match paid off well.This was Paiges best match she had in awhile and Charlottes best match since being on the main roster it was solid 3/5.Not good but not bad either. 3/5 sounds like more good than bad. Also, you really, honestly, thought that this was better than Charlotte/Nikki at HIAC? The match that you gushed over? I felt Charlotte/Nikki was 3/5, while this was about 1.5/5. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 10:45:53 GMT -5
I honestly felt like Paige vs Charlotte last night was good and nowhere near as a horrible match people are making it out to be.Yes the booking was horrible but the match paid off well.This was Paiges best match she had in awhile and Charlottes best match since being on the main roster it was solid 3/5.Not good but not bad either. 3/5 sounds like more good than bad. Also, you really, honestly, thought that this was better than Charlotte/Nikki at HIAC? The match that you gushed over? I felt Charlotte/Nikki was 3/5, while this was about 1.5/5. Gushed over? You mean me praising nikki bellas work and me liking a certain spot then yes.But that was all Nikki while I thought Charlotte was sloppy in that match.But in this match Charlotte looked much better and definitely played the heel role well.I'm not gonna play the ratings game with you because that's cleary your thing.But a 3/5 for me is in the middle because I thought It was solid. |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 14, 2015 10:48:10 GMT -5
3/5 sounds like more good than bad. Also, you really, honestly, thought that this was better than Charlotte/Nikki at HIAC? The match that you gushed over? I felt Charlotte/Nikki was 3/5, while this was about 1.5/5. Gushed over? You mean me praising nikki bellas work and me liking a certain spot then yes.But that was all Nikki while I thought Charlotte was sloppy in that match.But in this match Charlotte looked much better and definitely played the heel role well.I'm not gonna play the ratings game with you because that's cleary your thing.But a 3/5 for me is in the middle because I thought It was solid. I must have remembered wrong, my bad. I thought you were gushed over the whole match and not just that spot. Charlotte wasn't really sloppy to me in that match, but her lack of selling the back after that spot was terrible. This match just had nothing clicking for it to me. I thought Survivor Series was better and that wasn't very good either. To each their own though. |
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Dec 14, 2015 11:06:46 GMT -5
Ladder match and HHH getting beat down was the only highlights for me.
Ambrose getting a title was cool also.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 14, 2015 11:20:23 GMT -5
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Dec 14, 2015 11:46:13 GMT -5
Great event and great performances by all the competitors.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 14, 2015 11:53:17 GMT -5
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Post by cmiller79 on Dec 14, 2015 12:11:39 GMT -5
J & j should come back to guard HHH
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Post by cmiller79 on Dec 14, 2015 12:12:37 GMT -5
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Dec 14, 2015 12:49:41 GMT -5
That ending was amazing.
THAT is the Roman i have been dying for.
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Post by J12 on Dec 14, 2015 12:56:04 GMT -5
I was at TLC last night. Interested in reading through some of the thoughts here, and also watching the show back on the Network. Here are some observations from a live perspective...
I loved my seats. I was in Loge 1, TV side, 14 rows off the floor. If you see a sign that says "Wanna hear a joke? Roman Reigns", I was about 3-4 rows behind that guy. Not sure if I made it on camera during some pull back shots, or during Roman's entrance. I was 4 seats away from the aisle he came down through.
-New Day was the most over act in the building, and it wasn't even remotely close. I heard "New Day Rocks" chants on the streets of Boston at 2 in the afternoon, and they carried through the line, the lobby, the elevators, and the arena itself before, during, and after the show. People loved them, kids included. Even when they made fun of Boston, the quick jeers turned back into cheers almost immediately.
-The chatter among fans in the arena kind of told the story about how people feel about the product. I heard several people talking about whether or not "anything exciting would happen" and the common answer every time was "no."
-"We Want Sasha" was common, again, before and during the event.
-If we're judging solely by crowd reaction, Michael Cole is the biggest heel in the company, bar none, at least in Boston.
-Crowd was, by far, hottest for the Tag Title match. I don't know how it came off on TV (I've heard a lot of "spotfest" comments), but it was incredible watch unfold in person. I had also never seen a ladder match in person before, so there was some added excitement for me.
-We were dead quiet during Rusev/Ryback and Del Rio/Swagger. Neither match came off well live at all. Del Rio continued to be confusing, shaking hands with people at ringside when the cameras were off of him. He did this at the house show I was at the night before too.
-People seemed to love the Wyatt/Dudley match. I thought it was alright. The tables seemed...more flimsy than usual. Glad the Wyatts dominated, that's exactly what needed to happen.
-Huge pops for Owens and Ambrose. The match was solid, but not as good as I'd hoped it would be. I'm a little sour on the title change, because I get the feeling that it means nothing and they simply did it to avoid have all heels going over.
-Charlotte/Paige was a mess. People sat on their hands through most of the match, or chanted for Sasha. A lot of confusion as to who we were supposed to cheer for. Most people chose Ric Flair or Paige. I saw minimal support for Charlotte at best.
-Again, I've heard conflicting reports about how the main event came off on TV. It was absolutely horrible in person. We were bored, it was slow and plodding and in general, neither guy was over. The crowd booed the living hell out of Roman any time they showed him on the screen, then during his entrance, and during the match. I heard a variety of chants, including, but not limited to "CM Punk", "Daniel Bryan", "We Want Cena", "We Want Sasha", "You Both Suck", "This Match Sucks", "Boring", "JBL", and a brief but funny alternating chant where one section would say "Let's go Sheamus!" and the other would respond with "Let's go Sheamus!" I got a kick out of that.
The finish was garbage, and the lack of babyface help for Roman was astoundingly stupid. Where was Dean? Where were the Usos? If the Usos are selling their ladder match, fine, but there's absolutely no excuse for Ambrose. It was just garbage booking to make Roman look real strong again.
I had mixed feelings about the post-match stuff. Evidently, Roman won the crowd over at that point. I don't know how it was played on TV, so I can't comment yet. They're lucky they had that planned, because when the match ended, I started to hear rumblings of "We Want Refunds." It wouldn't have been a good look.
Overall, I enjoyed myself and had a great time, but I don't think the show was particularly good.
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Post by Rob on Dec 14, 2015 13:06:26 GMT -5
So i was able to skim through the show since i fell asleep like 5 mins into it last night.
Basically what stood out to me:
Kalisto stole the show. In a time where WWE is so protective and everyone does the same boring easy spots every year, Kalisto goes out there and does that? Jesus. That might've been the best high spot in the last 5 years.
Everything else was basically a snoozefest full of filler and throw away content.
Paige/Charlotte really need to stop facing each other. They have the chemistry of a brick and a stick.
The TLC match went exactly like i predicted and i wasn't a fan of the HHH beat down either. It should have built up to that moment over the course of a PPV or 2, Not just go straight towards the climax.
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Post by E N I G M A on Dec 14, 2015 13:09:51 GMT -5
How Roman looked after the match was exactly how they should book him. A dominant force that cannot be tamed, with this ruthless look on his face and no remorse in his actions!
Besides that, I thought the show was allright, nothing too fancy except the ladder match.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 14, 2015 13:09:53 GMT -5
-New Day was the most over act in the building, and it wasn't even remotely close. I heard "New Day Rocks" chants on the streets of Boston at 2 in the afternoon, and they carried through the line, the lobby, the elevators, and the arena itself before, during, and after the show. People loved them, kids included. Even when they made fun of Boston, the quick jeers turned back into cheers almost immediately. This is not at all surprising. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 13:16:45 GMT -5
New Day being so over explains why the Internet has begun to turn on them.
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Post by J12 on Dec 14, 2015 13:31:41 GMT -5
I forgot to mention one of the funniest moments of the night:
Shortly before the pre-show went live, they aired a video for WWE's return to Boston in March. The hyped it as "one of the final stops on the Road to Wrestlemania" and there was some excitement building throughout the arena, presumably because they expected it to be Raw. Then they said, "WWE SMACKDOWN" and the audible groan was absolutely hysterical. They then gave the pre-sale code, and people booed. Hilarious.
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Post by Chip on Dec 14, 2015 13:40:33 GMT -5
people need to tell me again why the "internet" is only a small percentage of the WWE's fanbase and they don't buy tickets or merch or drive tv ratings, etc.
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Post by A-Rob on Dec 14, 2015 15:17:19 GMT -5
The announcers, it's from the close captioning. |
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Post by TurboEddie on Dec 14, 2015 16:12:21 GMT -5
What a difference between Survivor Series and TLC!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 16:25:57 GMT -5
Did I hear a "We want Cena!" chant in the opening of Reigns/Sheamus?
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