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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 16:27:18 GMT -5
So most "toy collectors" who are buying these newer figures from Mattel obviously know all the easy classics from the old WWF and WCW, I mean guys like The Million Dollar Man, The Dragon Ricky Steamboat etc... but I would like to see these wrestlers before they got the cartoon gimmicks from the WWF, I mean Ricky Steamboat was much more than the WWF version as the Dragon, Ted Dibiase was a pretty good tag partner for Dr.Death Steve Williams back in the Mid-Atlantic days (NWA) , you could almost do a "before they were big" versions of LOD in their old school make up and vests, Terry Funk NOT AS A CORNY COWBOY in the WWF, Stan the Lariat Hansen (bull rope and cow bell accessories) Tito Santana not as El Matador, Koko Ware as a star from Mid Atlantic before the birdman gimmick. Terry Taylor as a good wrestler and not as the damn Red Rooster. there's so many that you can tackle as part of a "Ringside Legends" line of figures. Classic doesn;t mean "NWO" red or white...that's like only 15 years ago. Let's get some older legends as part of the toy line.
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Post by Sizzle on Dec 9, 2015 16:31:03 GMT -5
They won't sell.
This line is aimed at kids.
Many collectors, but not enough to keep these from warming shelves.
Look at Tito Santana and Junkyard Dog.
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Post by Heatwave on Dec 9, 2015 22:05:47 GMT -5
I think it would be great. I would get a lot of the NWA AWA and all the other small territories figures.
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Post by madness86 on Dec 9, 2015 22:37:04 GMT -5
Great idea wouldn't sell at retail. Even if each figure was a very limited run 1500-3000 I still think it'd be a hard sell. I'd love the regular legends line back but I know 2-4 from each set wouldn't sell well at retail. It wouldn't work.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 8:46:24 GMT -5
I didn't think it would work well either...for me this is a wish list. Besides, kids are'nt buying these, parents aren't buying many of these for their kids...maybe a John Cene here and there, but at this price point of 19.99 for a small action figure....Legos and Star Wars are the toy lines geared for kids. I think young adults and "collectors" are your major buying demographic for wrestling figures.
This list was more a "dream list" than anything.
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Post by Sizzle on Dec 10, 2015 8:52:22 GMT -5
I didn't think it would work well either...for me this is a wish list. Besides, kids are'nt buying these, parents aren't buying many of these for their kids...maybe a John Cene here and there, but at this price point of 19.99 for a small action figure....Legos and Star Wars are the toy lines geared for kids . I think young adults and "collectors" are your major buying demographic for wrestling figures. This list was more a "dream list" than anything. That statement is incorrect. This is Mattel, who make toys for kids. The lines are aimed at kids. WWE is family-friendly and a lot is aimed at kids. |
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Post by retrojordanwwefigure on Dec 10, 2015 12:55:13 GMT -5
Good idea but I don't think there's a ton of 40-60 year olds collecting or playing with these figures. Again good idea in all for flashbacks and old school wrestlers along with new ones but kids aren't gonna want these unless it really looks cool or pops out or had a cool accessory. Great idea but don't think it would sell well with the main demo they aim at and even some of them guys are old to us 20-30 yr oldcollectors  |
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Post by Mongo Bears on Dec 10, 2015 15:33:45 GMT -5
I'd probably pass on just about all of them.
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 11, 2015 0:12:23 GMT -5
While I enjoy the territories more then any other era, 80s lower mid carders in their territory attires would be extremely tough to sell, even for me. Its one thing if you went with big names in the territory days like Harley Race, Billy Graham or Bob Backlund but getting Steamboat in trunks or DiBiase with a black leather glove on...Those wont sell worth a crap.
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Post by JC Motors on Dec 11, 2015 20:18:37 GMT -5
I didn't think it would work well either...for me this is a wish list. Besides, kids are'nt buying these, parents aren't buying many of these for their kids...maybe a John Cene here and there, but at this price point of 19.99 for a small action figure....Legos and Star Wars are the toy lines geared for kids. I think young adults and "collectors" are your major buying demographic for wrestling figures. This list was more a "dream list" than anything. Lego's aren't just for kids. Adults love Lego's too |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 10:08:31 GMT -5
I didn't think it would work well either...for me this is a wish list. Besides, kids are'nt buying these, parents aren't buying many of these for their kids...maybe a John Cene here and there, but at this price point of 19.99 for a small action figure....Legos and Star Wars are the toy lines geared for kids . I think young adults and "collectors" are your major buying demographic for wrestling figures. This list was more a "dream list" than anything. That statement is incorrect. This is Mattel, who make toys for kids. The lines are aimed at kids. WWE is family-friendly and a lot is aimed at kids. I attend the San Diego Comic Con each year and participate in Mattel's WWE yearly conference, yes of course a toy line is aimed at kids...to a point. I know Derek and Bill who are head designers at Mattel and they take part each year. They know the Elite line is costlier and is really aimed at the "collector" as opposed to the Basic Assortment which are aimed at being a more family friend collector such as kids and parents who are purchasing these for there kids. (plus all I was saying is I had a "dream line" that I "wished" would be made, I wasn't expecting them to make it...it was a "wish list"). Parents aren't taking Junior to the store for Elites too pick up a birthday gift for their friends...not at 19.99....so no I wouldn;t say they are all aimed at kids. Mattel realizes there is a huge market for collectors and a price point hovering around 20 dollars has to be appealing as well as profitable for them to continue making these. Yeah...APA figures are geared towards kids and families...stick to that thought. you have no idea how many older collectors there are anyways. do you visit online forums, newsflash we have been collecting (no not playing with these like you guys do) we have been collecting since Remco and LJN made wrestling figures back in 1984. We collected Hasbro and Galoob wrestling figures since the early 90's...before most of you were born. wrestling didn't begin with the Monday Night Wars like it did for most of you guys. there is a HUGE market where older collectors are purchasing these...we aren't maxing out our credit cards buying these like a lot of you are...we have established jobs and keep this as a hobby, it's been over 30 years of collecting wrestling figures and toys for many of us, not just since you guys switched over from Jakks Pacific to Mattel within the past 10-12 years. |
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Post by Sizzle on Dec 23, 2015 13:52:41 GMT -5
That statement is incorrect. This is Mattel, who make toys for kids. The lines are aimed at kids. WWE is family-friendly and a lot is aimed at kids. I attend the San Diego Comic Con each year and participate in Mattel's WWE yearly conference, yes of course a toy line is aimed at kids...to a point. I know Derek and Bill who are head designers at Mattel and they take part each year. They know the Elite line is costlier and is really aimed at the "collector" as opposed to the Basic Assortment which are aimed at being a more family friend collector such as kids and parents who are purchasing these for there kids. (plus all I was saying is I had a "dream line" that I "wished" would be made, I wasn't expecting them to make it...it was a "wish list"). Parents aren't taking Junior to the store for Elites too pick up a birthday gift for their friends...not at 19.99....so no I wouldn;t say they are all aimed at kids. Mattel realizes there is a huge market for collectors and a price point hovering around 20 dollars has to be appealing as well as profitable for them to continue making these. 1. Yeah...APA figures are geared towards kids and families...stick to that thought.2. you have no idea how many older collectors there are anyways. do you visit online forums, 3. newsflash we have been collecting (no not playing with these like you guys do) we have been collecting since Remco and LJN made wrestling figures back in 1984. We collected Hasbro and Galoob wrestling figures since the early 90's...before most of you were born. wrestling didn't begin with the Monday Night Wars like it did for most of you guys. 4. there is a HUGE market where older collectors are purchasing these... 5. we aren't maxing out our credit cards buying these like a lot of you are...we have established jobs and keep this as a hobby, it's been over 30 years of collecting wrestling figures and toys for many of us, not just since you guys switched over from Jakks Pacific to Mattel within the past 10-12 years. 1. I know kids that are wrestling fans and love the APA. 2. There are tons of adult collectors, trust me, I know. 3. This forum has collectors, pic-fedders, animators, adult collectors who collect AND play with their figures. 4. Yes, there is a huge market for pre-attitude era, but history has shown that a lot of figures from those eras tend not to sell. Examples include: E33 Junkyard Dog, HOF Tito Santana, The Legends Line, etc. 5. What is that supposed to mean? Now I don't want to argue over things, I just wanted to tell you some things I know about wrestling figures, wrestling figure collecting, etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2015 16:19:58 GMT -5
I didn't think it would work well either...for me this is a wish list. Besides, kids are'nt buying these, parents aren't buying many of these for their kids...maybe a John Cene here and there, but at this price point of 19.99 for a small action figure....Legos and Star Wars are the toy lines geared for kids. I think young adults and "collectors" are your major buying demographic for wrestling figures. This list was more a "dream list" than anything. No, no no. Lots of kids buy Mattel WWE figures. Mattel makes KIDS TOYS and WWE is FAMILY FRIENDLY. Also every time I go to the figure aisle I always see at least two-three kids buying figures. Also, Lego plural is not Legos. It just Lego, and Lego isn't just for kids, TONS of adults love Lego. Personally, im a huge Lego fanatic. And really? Star Wars is just for kids either. I am a huge Star Wars fan and I collect Star Wars figures. There are multiple lines of Star Wars figures and quite a few of them are geared toward the collector, for example The Black Series. There are also TONS of Star Wars figure fan sites and forums around the web, and I frequent a lot of them. |
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Post by romanthenewyorker on Jan 19, 2016 1:31:24 GMT -5
At a younger age I had the Starwars 3.75 inch & Jakks BCA & RA body figures mainly because the price points allowed me to collect all of the guys I wanted on the back of the box, I think basics contribute to the same idea, you can have more updates, bigger variety with a cheaper price point that a parent can help their child achieve a fuller collection.
Weather Mattel Gears all their toys for kids or not, Young-Adult & Adult collectors I would say safely helps Mattel's WWE line continue, as far as consistent buyers, collectibles etc. , there are plenty of young kids on this forum as well, I myself knew of this forum when I was 11 years old but still the bigger contributors are collectors both in retail & RSC, so arguing that WWE figures are made for kids wouldn't mean a thing considering adults will buy them & have been the most supportive.
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