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Post by Halloween King on Jan 2, 2016 13:09:03 GMT -5
Since it seems like the horsemen 4 pack seems to be shelf warming and it's likely that after their initial stocking of the Heenan family, they'll shelf warm as well. Maybe Mattel could do elite HOF 2 packs instead of the 4 packs. What's everyone's thoughts? If they clearance the 4 packs I doubt a 2 pack would be received.
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Post by FFK on Jan 2, 2016 13:50:00 GMT -5
Since it seems like the horsemen 4 pack seems to be shelf warming and it's likely that after their initial stocking of the Heenan family, they'll shelf warm as well. Maybe Mattel could do elite HOF 2 packs instead of the 4 packs. What's everyone's thoughts? If they clearance the 4 packs I doubt a 2 pack would be received. Why? It would be half the price and would have more options to choose from since there would be 2 guys instead of 4.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 13:53:14 GMT -5
Since it seems like the horsemen 4 pack seems to be shelf warming and it's likely that after their initial stocking of the Heenan family, they'll shelf warm as well. Maybe Mattel could do elite HOF 2 packs instead of the 4 packs. What's everyone's thoughts? If they clearance the 4 packs I doubt a 2 pack would be received. They clearance toys all the time, doesnt mean they wont get them again. Depending on the company, alot of stores lose nothing when clearancing toys. The manufacturer reimburses them
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Post by jsmells on Jan 2, 2016 13:57:01 GMT -5
I can think of more HOF 2 packs I'd buy vs. 4 packs. I think it's a solid idea.
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Post by The Assassin on Jan 2, 2016 14:34:12 GMT -5
If the Four Horsemen and the Heenan Family are shelf-warming, the MAIN reason is without a doubt because the lineups are simply too old-school. In my opinion Mattel has a tendency to focus too much on the 70s/80s and even early 90s, and personally I think that kind of thinking played a big part in killing the original Legends line.
The Monday Night Wars period (1995-2001) - which means the WWF Attitude era AND the WCW/NWO era (for any WWE fanboys forgetting/downplaying WCW's part) - was THE most popular period of wrestling EVER. I'm not saying don't make 70s/80s/early-90s/00s/etc guys but the Monday Night Wars era should be the majority ratio and this is often not reflected anywhere near highly enough in Mattel's character selections.
NWO and DX would have been MUCH more logical and safe choices for launching the Legends 4-packs or even 3-packs if they'd gone that way. I was somewhat aprehensive about the first 4-packs not being one of these teams (especially since the 4H had no accessories), and when the second pack was not one of those teams either I started having serious doubts that this line would work... I'm not saying the 4H aren't deserving, because they certainly are, but was a risky choice to start the line. And the Heenan family, well, frankly I think that was a blatant poor choice, I wouldn't have bet on that meeting sales requirements whenever it was scheduled in this series to be honest. The "team" isn't anywhere near well-known enough (as as team) and individually, Andre is the only one in there with mass-appeal, but even he's had several Mattel figures already.
I hope I am wrong as there are lots of 4-packs and 3-packs I'd like to see, but Mattel's obsession with old-school may have killed the 4-packs already. Of course the fans/market will get the blame though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 15:17:31 GMT -5
As others have said, I think the main obstacle to the 4-packs are the $50 price point. Maybe if the NoD 2-pack sells well they may transition to that.
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Post by Halloween King on Jan 2, 2016 16:50:54 GMT -5
If they clearance the 4 packs I doubt a 2 pack would be received. They clearance toys all the time, doesnt mean they wont get them again. Depending on the company, alot of stores lose nothing when clearancing toys. The manufacturer reimburses them Just from what I've seen if Target puts something on Clearance you prob wont be seeing that in store again anytime soon. They used to sell Greenlight cars until the clearanced them out of the stores. Same with Trashies, and S.L.U.G. Zombies. Seeing as how the 4 packs are made by Mattel I would think a clearance sale isnt the end of the relationship as it has been for other toys but it would def put the multi pack idea on ice for a while. The two pack seems like a cool idea but those already have a tack record of not selling well (legends 2 packs). Still if they did try this 2 pack idea I bet it would be months if not years after the 4 pack was off the shelves. I hope im wrong though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 17:08:47 GMT -5
They clearance toys all the time, doesnt mean they wont get them again. Depending on the company, alot of stores lose nothing when clearancing toys. The manufacturer reimburses them Just from what I've seen if Target puts something on Clearance you prob wont be seeing that in store again anytime soon. They used to sell Greenlight cars until the clearanced them out of the stores. Same with Trashies, and S.L.U.G. Zombies. Seeing as how the 4 packs are made by Mattel I would think a clearance sale isnt the end of the relationship as it has been for other toys but it would def put the multi pack idea on ice for a while. The two pack seems like a cool idea but those already have a tack record of not selling well (legends 2 packs). Still if they did try this 2 pack idea I bet it would be months if not years after the 4 pack was off the shelves. I hope im wrong though. I got a bunch of star wars black series on clearance for a 75% price cut on clearance. They still stock them. They clearance stuff to clear old stock. I also agree, a two pack would be great. Wouldnt wait till it was on sale to get.
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Post by Halloween King on Jan 2, 2016 17:14:18 GMT -5
Just from what I've seen if Target puts something on Clearance you prob wont be seeing that in store again anytime soon. They used to sell Greenlight cars until the clearanced them out of the stores. Same with Trashies, and S.L.U.G. Zombies. Seeing as how the 4 packs are made by Mattel I would think a clearance sale isnt the end of the relationship as it has been for other toys but it would def put the multi pack idea on ice for a while. The two pack seems like a cool idea but those already have a tack record of not selling well (legends 2 packs). Still if they did try this 2 pack idea I bet it would be months if not years after the 4 pack was off the shelves. I hope im wrong though. I got a bunch of star wars black series on clearance for a 75% price cut on clearance. They still stock them. They clearance stuff to clear old stock. I also agree, a two pack would be great. Wouldnt wait till it was on sale to get. Well, it's like wwe/Mattel the star wars brand is relevant right now in pop culture. They might clear things out to make room now but sooner or later they will drop what ever was marked down. Case in point the wwe legends figures. Target had them and cleared them off the shelves. It wasnt till years later that they gave Mattel a second chance with the HOF figures. WWE is not as main stream as Star Wars so I feel that if they clear the 4 packs it'll be a while before we see another Multi pack on Target shelves.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 17:56:12 GMT -5
Dx and n.w.o always sell pretty much whatever mercy they are selling. That would be a good 3 or 4 pack to put out
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 2, 2016 18:01:44 GMT -5
Outside of the nWo there isnt any 4 figure set that is going to sell at that price. Sorry but that's the truth. DX, Nation, Evolution or even an Austin-Rock-Cena-Hogan set wouldnt sell just look at those gawd awful Holiday 6 packs that Walmart does. My stores can never get rid of them and they're filled with big name people. A 2 pack would be much more reasonable. $39.99 and less shelf space as well.
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Post by Al_Snow_MotherF***ers on Jan 2, 2016 18:39:33 GMT -5
My idea to have two or three packs of rivals, flashback tag teams with some accessories like three pack too cool three glasses hat and the titles or two pack rival Vince and Austin with beer can and chair and whatever they used
Also and evolution pack mainly I chose mick Foley example if basic of dude love,cactus jack ,mankind ,and accessories barbed bat socko mic strung of wire
And many ideas and expand two pack defining moments, also two pack entrance stage figs Also hof cars make a car towed piper with the white bronco in his gear he had that day. I think that would make money make vehicles with figure pack austin and zanbonie jbl limo honky tonk cadilac
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Post by theaxehennig on Jan 2, 2016 18:43:06 GMT -5
They're on point for custom fodder! Bring them on!!! Once Target clearances them, I'll be pushing through there like George Constanza, knocking over womem and children.
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Post by fzmadness on Jan 2, 2016 23:34:32 GMT -5
I like the idea of 2 packs. Especially if used like the legends 2 packs. Classic tag teams would be cool. I would buy 2 packs, 4 packs, 16 packs. Whatever has a legend in it!!
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jan 3, 2016 3:28:09 GMT -5
I'd be shocked if Mattel did another 4-Pack. I don't even think that the HOF single figures themselves have sold all that well, to be honest. As much as real collectors have enjoyed the sets, the target audience of the WWE these days just has no interest in figures of guys from the 70s and 80s. I think any figures from a period any earlier than the Attitude Era are going to have a hard time selling.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 8:12:47 GMT -5
I'd love to be able to get a hold of these hof 4 packs especially the heenan set and the single figures million dollar man and jimmy hart but can't as I'm in the uk and refuse to pay the ridiculous prices to buy them and then have them shipped here £30-£40 for the singles then another £20 to ship them, the 4 packs are close to the £100 mark with shipping, no thanks we were lucky to get the single hof series 2 figures but no 4 horsemen sets, they are warming hard at my local smyths shop, so can't see them getting the next set, here's praying they do, I'd go with twin packs but for the global market
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Post by 'Exotic' Adrian Street on Jan 3, 2016 8:56:11 GMT -5
I'd be shocked if Mattel did another 4-Pack. I don't even think that the HOF single figures themselves have sold all that well, to be honest. As much as real collectors have enjoyed the sets, the target audience of the WWE these days just has no interest in figures of guys from the 70s and 80s. I think any figures from a period any earlier than the Attitude Era are going to have a hard time selling. I might be wrong, and I admit I don't know how toy distribution and such work, but I would think Series 1 was a huge success. They came out December of 2014 and Target thought enough of them to request more be made?? (Because they are bringing out fresh cases/mixed cases with HOF 2). Is that not how it works? Tito and Horsemen are the only total failures I would say.
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Post by JNH2248 on Jan 3, 2016 10:01:45 GMT -5
I think they should make 2 sets of two figures. For example, one set of Shawn Michaels & Diesel, and one set of Randy Savage & Ultimate Warrior. This would split the price point in half but still produce four figures. Easily...
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Post by JNH2248 on Jan 3, 2016 10:09:21 GMT -5
I'd be shocked if Mattel did another 4-Pack. I don't even think that the HOF single figures themselves have sold all that well, to be honest. As much as real collectors have enjoyed the sets, the target audience of the WWE these days just has no interest in figures of guys from the 70s and 80s. I think any figures from a period any earlier than the Attitude Era are going to have a hard time selling. I agree also, one of my Targets has had at least 15-20 Heenans for about two weeks now and they haven't moved because I've been checking back for the singles...and yes, the Target audience of parents are not interested in those, they pass the WWE section everytime with their kids...
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Post by doubled on Jan 3, 2016 10:36:43 GMT -5
I'm happy with the 1 packs. With 2 packs, it is normally 1 figure you want and 1 figure u buy just to get the figure you want.
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