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Post by TurboEddie on Jan 12, 2016 2:18:40 GMT -5
Roman Reigns just isn't who WWE wants him to be. They need to quit while they're ahead.
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Post by A-Rob on Jan 12, 2016 3:25:07 GMT -5
Well.....Raw sucked. Brock suplexing everyone was the highlight. Roman had no fan support tonight.
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Post by KrimV on Jan 12, 2016 6:52:07 GMT -5
I thought it was a decent show. I didn't feel like any of it was horribly boring that I needed to skip. It wasn't groundbreaking, but I felt it was fine. However, essentially turning the main event into a 1 on 1 match was a misstep. They still could've had Owens vs Reigns and then have Vince bring everybody to interfere and ended up with the same thing. Having everybody just standing around outside was kinda pointless. I also thought they made yet another misstep with the Wyatts. Wyatts are supposed to be forces of nature, so why are they acting like corporate stooges?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 7:08:56 GMT -5
Aside from Kalisto winning and New Day, Raw was one of the worst ever.
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Post by tarver89 on Jan 12, 2016 9:28:39 GMT -5
Bad Raw. Really bad. Only Kalisto, Brock suplexing the world and Owens were the good notes of the show.
Regarding Owens, there are still people that say he has no charisma and mic skills?
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Post by J12 on Jan 12, 2016 10:41:20 GMT -5
Last night's reaction to Roman is going to seem like a Stone Cold pop in comparison to what's going to happen in the coming weeks and months.
He's a sinking ship, Vince.
On a positive note, Charlotte and Becky killed it last night. Charlotte is coming into her own quickly as a heel. Her promo was great, Becky's was even better. Good for them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 11:37:03 GMT -5
I turned it off during the Del Rio and Kalsto match. I just couldn't listen to the commentary anymore. I hate JBL with a passion now. He's just a loud mouth and is just piss poor when he tries to rip on people. Saxton is not even a thought, he needs to go away. And Cole can suck it. I want JR back. I don't even care if King is out there with him. I was tired of all the Royal Rumble stats. They keep on harping so much on the "luck of the draw", if anything, over the past 25 years, the luck of the draw doesn't mean a damn thing. Guys have won it from the start, the end, the middle, etc. Ugh. I'm also sick of Jericho. He is really reaching the Foley levels of LOOK AT ME!!!! LOOK WHAT I DID!!!!! I'M THE GREATEST WRESTLER EEEEEEEVERRRRR". off Jericho.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jan 12, 2016 11:53:10 GMT -5
The sad thing is that Dean Ambrose has had to suffer due to Vince's love of Roman. Dean has everything needed to be a top player. Instead he is held back because they know Dean will get over unlike Roman. And this is from someone who likes the guy. Instead of an actual face we can care about we get crap like last night.
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Post by T R W on Jan 12, 2016 12:06:09 GMT -5
Like, literally, Becky and Charlotte was the best part of RAW despite Ric's lack of improv skills these days. And I enjoyed Kalisto winning, but we missed half the match due to commercials. The main event was a custer only made slightly interesting by Brock killing everyone.
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Post by grandmasterPRA on Jan 12, 2016 12:20:45 GMT -5
Fans are too "smart" nowadays for this Roman storyline to ever work. It comes off so forced to see Vince pretend that he doesn't want Roman to be the top guy, when every WWE fan knows that behind the scenes it is the complete opposite. This storyline would only work for someone like Daniel Bryan or Dean Ambrose because we know there is at least a hint of truth to it. Fans can see through their crap nowadays and they need to adjust accordingly and not insult our intelligence.
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Post by J12 on Jan 12, 2016 12:46:04 GMT -5
I forgot to mention, one of the most glaring insults last night was even Brock Lesnar being deduced to an Authority whipping boy.
Up to this point, he's been the one guy on the roster who has somehow remained above their grasp of belittling, but it finally caught up to him. Stephanie treating Paul Heyman, and by extension, Brock Lesnar, like a employee who is just lucky to work for the almighty McMahon's was a complete and total joke. The babyfaces have been neutered to the point of comedy, and the only one who hasn't can't get over to save his life.
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Post by tiny04 on Jan 12, 2016 13:03:46 GMT -5
Becky Lynch was the star of the show. That's about all I have on Raw itself.
Anyway, I think they should acknowledge that Dean Ambrose and The Usos may help Roman Reigns in the RR. Of course they won't help him win but they'll still help him early on. Which made me think that they should be trying to stop Ambrose and The Usos being in the Royal Rumble match.
Usos beat New Day on Raw. Vince should give The Usos the option of a tag title match at RR or the RR match itself to try and eliminate Roman's cousins. Maybe even say that if The Usos enter the RR they'll never get another tag title match.
Then Ambrose. Tell him he must choose between defending his IC Title or being in the RR, but if he chooses to be in the RR he must vacate the IC Title.
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Post by J12 on Jan 12, 2016 13:07:03 GMT -5
Becky Lynch was the star of the show. That's about all I have on Raw itself. Anyway, I think they should acknowledge that Dean Ambrose and The Usos may help Roman Reigns in the RR. Of course they won't help him win but they'll still help him early on. Which made me think that they should be trying to stop Ambrose and The Usos being in the Royal Rumble match. Usos beat New Day on Raw. Vince should give The Usos the option of a tag title match at RR or the RR match itself to try and eliminate Roman's cousins. Maybe even say that if The Usos enter the RR they'll never get another tag title match. Then Ambrose. Tell him he must choose between defending his IC Title or being in the RR, but if he chooses to be in the RR he must vacate the IC Title. That can't happen because it's logical and they're not Roman Reigns.
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Post by attitudesback on Jan 12, 2016 13:39:53 GMT -5
I thought Becky Lynch was ing awful on Raw. The whole "beat down" looked incredibly poor and she didn't cut a very convincing promo afterwards either. New Day were great though. Brock made the ending worth watching. Also - get rid of Y2J. Seriously. Takes himself way too seriously and always says his name trying to get a pop out of it.
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Post by Johnny Mason on Jan 12, 2016 18:00:57 GMT -5
I thought Becky Lynch was ing awful on Raw. The whole "beat down" looked incredibly poor and she didn't cut a very convincing promo afterwards either. New Day were great though. Brock made the ending worth watching. Also - get rid of Y2J. Seriously. Takes himself way too seriously and always says his name trying to get a pop out of it. I didn't think Becky Lynch was very good either.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 4:06:51 GMT -5
One small thing I noticed which I liked was Sheamus giving Brock a fight in the corner - and it looked believable. I wouldn't mind a Sheamus/Lesnar feud in the future. If we can't have Orton/Brock anytime soon, and Owens isn't on Brock's kayfabe level yet, then give him Sheamus.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2016 21:28:17 GMT -5
Well...it's that time again...Raw recap via Superstars...
- 'One Versus All'? Christ! It's so transparent, it's not funny... - 'The Highlight Reel' is still going, eh? Hmm. - So apparently Slammys are more prestigious than Tag Team championships. Righto. - A decent match for what it was between the Usos and New Day, with the exception of the finish. Jericho breaking the trombone was pathetic. - Sheamus vs Ambrose...great. - How about you wait for Sheamus to apply the move instead of calling it incorrectly, Cole? Oh wait, of course you can't. Whatever Sheamus did, is not a Cloverleaf, at least not the actual Texas incarnation. - The constant references to the referee telegraphed that the match would be a double countout. Good one, WWE. - While it was cool to see Sheamus get busted hardway, it was for nought. - Last Man Standing for Ambrose/Owens? Hmm. - Sting being announced first for this year's Hall of Fame has no air of importance about it for some reason for me...though the video package was quite well done, it had this aura of it like 'We need to put together a package for Sting because we feel there are people who won't know who he is, simply because he was never with WWE until 2014.' A shame, in a way, but I'm glad that I'll always have memories of watching him as a kid, as a teen, when WCW was an important part of pro wrestling, not 'WWE's business.' - 'Social Outcasts'? Christ Almighty, I feel so stupid for watching that - a pathetic shilling of the Royal Rumble. - ...and so of course, it ended in a quagmire, with Lesnar destroying all the heels and reasserting himself as perhaps the only viable threat to Reigns. I get that WWE wants to 'tell stories' but c'mon, is it too hard to have more depth than that?
Oh, and on Superstars The Dudleys defeated The Ascension (Shocker. Not.) while Tyler Breeze was submitted by Jack Swagger (Another shocker...not.)
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Post by Lebowski on Jan 17, 2016 9:26:45 GMT -5
One small thing I noticed which I liked was Sheamus giving Brock a fight in the corner - and it looked believable. I wouldn't mind a Sheamus/Lesnar feud in the future. If we can't have Orton/Brock anytime soon, and Owens isn't on Brock's kayfabe level yet, then give him Sheamus. Welcome to the board! I really hope these two have a proper feud one day.
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