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Post by King Silva on Feb 24, 2016 1:48:42 GMT -5
I think it could work and if done correctly it would build up stars.
They could either re-split up the WWE and WHT or they could have the WWE Champion do double duty.
I think they should have the Tag Champions and Divas Champion do double duty for sure but have the IC and US exclusive to Raw (IC) and SD (US).
Eventually I'd like them to add the Cruiserweight Title back since I expect the CW Tournament show to be a success. SD should again get that back.
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Post by tiny04 on Feb 24, 2016 3:15:27 GMT -5
It could work. IC and US champs brand exclusive and WWE, Tag and Divas champs all doing double duty. Once a few guys get clear of their injuries, and a few folk get called up from NXT, it could work out really well. I would like it if they used this as a reason to go back to 2 hour Raws.
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Post by Bret_Hart_Mark™ on Feb 24, 2016 3:40:25 GMT -5
I was just thinking about this the other day. My first thought was nXt would have to become the place where both brands vie to sign the talents. Thus making nXT something more special to the fans who don't watch regularly, and more so to the ones who do. It would also make both shows a little more "must see" when an nXt talent debuts.
Yeah there a lot of big names that are injured, but I say if you're gonna do it, do it now, and surprise everyone with the returning debuts of those injured talents. Also with them out it might give other talents that haven't been used lately a bit of a rub when they get drafted to either show.
As far as the titles, I think they should just let the WWE Champion, Divas and Tag Champions float from show to show, and keep the IC & US titles on separate shows. This way when the WWE Champion is feuding on one show, you can put some focus on those titles.
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Post by 0,Y on Feb 24, 2016 4:25:34 GMT -5
Yes please. It would be perfect to create newe main eventers and that's something WWE desperately needs right now.
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Post by KrimV on Feb 24, 2016 4:40:37 GMT -5
It could work. IC and US champs brand exclusive and WWE, Tag and Divas champs all doing double duty. This. If they do this, don't go back to the split world title because everybody will know that Smackdown's belt will be considered the 2nd tier version. At the minimum, whoever the world champ is would need to appear on both shows, not just one.
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Post by hbkjason on Feb 24, 2016 5:48:33 GMT -5
I seem to remember the brand split differently from many other people. I remember just ing god awful PPV's and house shows that were even worse! They cannot write compelling story lines for a single show let alone having two tottaly separate shows running.
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Post by bigbalooka on Feb 24, 2016 5:50:30 GMT -5
everyone saying that its a bad idea because there isn't enough main event talent are imo completely missing the point. a brand split would mean effectively double the spots we have now. rather than smackdown being raw lite, it would be its own show with its own main event/midcard etc. a brand split would be the perfect opportunity to build guys like owens/joe/styles/ziggler etc into main eventers. also if they did decide to split the titles again, which im 50/50 on. I think putting the wwe title on smackdown and whatever new title they bring in, wether it be the big gold belt or not on raw would help legitimise both titles. the wwe title is always going to mean something because it is the wwe title, so putting it on smackdown isn't going to de value it any, and could give SD some credibility. it would also give the new title credibility as its on raw, the flagship show. but all of that's just my opinion, would love to hear your guys opinions on my ideas and get a proper discussion going about this. not just a bitch fest
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Post by greenjack1992 on Feb 24, 2016 5:51:05 GMT -5
Those saying it wouldn't work or that the roster is too thin are wrong.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Feb 24, 2016 6:15:21 GMT -5
Well, it was a horrible venture the first time around, so it's hardly shocking that WWE is revisiting the idea. Taking a bad concept and running into the ground is what WWE has been doing for years now.
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Post by LtD73 on Feb 24, 2016 6:31:26 GMT -5
Do it, It'll give people like Tyler Breeze actual tv time and development, and I don't know about anyone else I always used to love The Draft, just a great amount of new storylines come from it
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Post by cordless2016 on Feb 24, 2016 7:23:04 GMT -5
It worked in 2002 because of all the top talent they had. Today they barely have 2 legit main eventers, let alone enough guys to fill 2 rosters. Though if it's gets Ambrose out from under Reigns I'm all for it. This is how they can develop new top talent If they've proven that they can't develope top guys with a full roster, how in the world will they do it with half a roster on each show?
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Post by BROKEN on Feb 24, 2016 7:27:10 GMT -5
It would give me a reason to watch smackdown
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Post by bigbalooka on Feb 24, 2016 8:53:54 GMT -5
This is how they can develop new top talent If they've proven that they can't develope top guys with a full roster, how in the world will they do it with half a roster on each show? because one of the main reasons is there are only so many spots, and they are focusing there time and effort on reigns atm. with a split there are double the main event spots and it would be a lot easier to build and establish young talent.
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Post by Infinite on Feb 24, 2016 9:03:48 GMT -5
One of the problems with the brand split was that eventually they stopped properly committing to it. Back in 02-06ish it worked quite well since they seemed to be kept as mostly separate entities, with Vince seemingly paying less attention to Smackdown, but allowing Heyman to run it (didn't last very long sadly). Eventually though Smackdown had absolutely no creative vision behind it, and gradually the whole thing became more and more homogenized until now where Smackdown may as well not exist.
IF (and I don't think this will happen) they allow Smackdown or whatever brand they use to operate as a completely separate wrestling show with a different vision and feel to it, the split could 100% work. NXT goes some way toward proving this.
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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 24, 2016 9:16:33 GMT -5
I don't really think it's a great idea. I agree with the sentiment that if WWE can't get over talent in 5 legit hours a week then why is thinning the roster going to work.
That being said, I don't have a ton of issue with it either as long as WWE keeps one World Title. The last thing WWE needs is more titles. What they need to do is emphasize chasing those titles and holding those titles and making what they have now feel far more important than what they are right now.
I don't miss the brand split. I wanted it to go away. This seems like an x-girlfriend, rose colored lenses, scenario to me.
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Post by PattyRickRick on Feb 24, 2016 9:20:20 GMT -5
How is the roster too thin? Come summer we have Rollins, Cena, Brock, Bálor, Wyatt, Ambrose, Reigns, Sheamus, HHH, Zayn, Owens, and then guys like Big Show, Kane, and Taker.
On top of that there would still be a mid card carried by Neville, Ziggler, New Day, Usos, and some of the people previously mentioned.
I am all for a brand split. I used to love it. Without the split everything is too repetitive and not enough workers get to shine.
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Post by grandmasterPRA on Feb 24, 2016 9:31:22 GMT -5
I hated the brand split with a passion when it happened back in 2002. However, for some weird reason, I want it to happen again. I think it would be especially beneficial for the divas who have a incredibly deep roster but only seem to be able to get one, maybe two segments a show. Also, this would help get rid of the overexposure that all these talent have. That's one reason I love NXT because it is just one hour a week and it keeps you wanting more. By the time you are done with 5 hours of RAW and Smackdown, you just feel exhausted and sick of people. You know that they will put Roman on Smackdown though so they can continue to dub in cheers and make us think people like him. Also, a brand split might help someone like Cesaro actually capture a world title. Kind of like Guerrero back in the day on Smackdown. The brand split made him a much bigger star than he would have been.
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Post by grandmasterPRA on Feb 24, 2016 9:36:41 GMT -5
It worked in 2002 because of all the top talent they had. Today they barely have 2 legit main eventers, let alone enough guys to fill 2 rosters. Though if it's gets Ambrose out from under Reigns I'm all for it. This. Plus I don't want them to split the World Title again. They have PLENTY of guys who are ready to be main eventers but haven't been given the chance to do so. Cena, Orton, Reigns, Owens, Wyatt, Rollins, Ambrose, Ziggler, Styles, Cesaro, and even guys like Sheamus, Rusev, Neville and NXT guys like Balor, Zayn, Joe and Crews. You have PLENTY of main event talent. The only reason we have 2 main eventers has everything to do with booking. A brand split would basically force the company to actually push other people.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 10:59:38 GMT -5
With an actual brand split, more people get over. It only gets f'd up when they start cross pollinating.
I like the idea above where NXT becomes a true feeder system and two brands vie for the talent.
It needs to be a true brand split though. not Smackdown Vs. Raw with them both WWE brands.
This is why New ECW worked to an extent for a while. It was separate (until it wasn't). A true SEPARATE brand with no jumping back and forth could work. I've said it before, but Shane "owned" WCW. Bring it back. Bring back the good stuff and bury the bad. Bullet Club (or whatever the new name is) is the new NWO. Make it work. More branding=more merchandise.
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Post by J12 on Feb 24, 2016 11:00:23 GMT -5
I'm not into it, but if they're going to do it, they need to wait until everyone has returned from injury, because they're waaaaaay too thin right now.
Also, Raw would have to return to two hours, because otherwise, Smackdown is the "inferrior" brand no matter what.
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