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Post by Joey Cush on Mar 2, 2016 16:30:34 GMT -5
Dont get me wrong I love Jericho but he is not around like he used to be and his stock just isnt the same. When AJ Styles debuted at the Rumble it was a pretty big deal but since then, other than submitting Y2J at FastLane, they have made AJ look like every other midcarder on the show. Segments with The Miz, Social Outcasts, New Day, etc.
I would have thought with all the injuries they for sure would have taken the steam from AJs debut and pushed it moving forward. Now, I'm not saying he is being booked badly because he is being booked well, I just think being in a team with Y2J leading into WrestleMania is kind of an odd spot for AJ.
Though if you were to ask me what I would have preferred him do, I have no idea given the current WM plans. Something with Bryan, Nakamura, Owens, & Joe are just completely out of the question.
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Post by Supreme Cross on Mar 2, 2016 16:37:46 GMT -5
this is how i look at it, when you get a new job, you don't automatically start at the top of the list. you start from the bottom and work your way up. thats what AJ is doing right now. yes all of us smarks know what he has accomplished but you can't get called up to the WWE and expect a big impact right away. to the average WWE fan, they don't know AJ. they need to know about AJ first and then start doing good. him teaming up with Y2J is actually pretty cool IMO. i like them both alot. i think this tag will help AJ out alot. AJ will get to the top someday. im just hoping they'll be booking him like AJ vs Nakumura, AJ vs Joe, AJ vs Sami, ect. when everyone gets there
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Post by tiny04 on Mar 2, 2016 16:39:19 GMT -5
I agree that there are definitely better thinks AJ could be doing at WM. A match with Owens for the IC title springs to mind. But I think we all need to lower our expectations for the time being. He's been there how long? 6 weeks? WWE were never going to springboard him to the top of the card that quick, no matter how good he is.
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Post by J12 on Mar 2, 2016 16:43:05 GMT -5
It actually seems he's pretty lucky to be in the spot that he's in, given the way Vince opted to treat him right out of the gate.
-Southern -Redneck -Too small -Can't talk
Those were a lot of negative qualifiers to strap someone with, and a miserable way to introduce someone to your audience. That's what Vince does, though. Completely undermines his own talent because he didn't creae them first, failing to realize that he's only hurting himself in the process.
Granted, I don't agree with this, and I'd have put him into the bigger picture mix right out of the gate and just establish that he's a special talent, but, alas.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2016 16:48:56 GMT -5
They're not just going to hotshot some guy most of the audience doesn't know. He still needs work with the WWE style, and sticking with Jeridad is a good idea imo.
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Post by The IT Factor on Mar 2, 2016 16:57:29 GMT -5
I have no clue why WWE are sticking AJ with Jericho in a tag-team. I mean, the feud already did it's job. It established AJ Styles to the fans, and it's gotten him over pretty well. No real need to put him in a tag-team with Cool Dad, especially if the point if it's going to lead to AJ/Jericho feuding again.
I'm not gonna claim WWE are burying Styles yet, but I don't get why they're putting him in a tag-team with Y2J, when honestly, putting him in a Mania program with KO sounds like a better idea.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2016 16:57:36 GMT -5
I would favor the idea that the matches he's had or are having is because he bypassed NXT and has to get acclimated to the WWE way, and also to ease him into the mainstream for those not familiar with him.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 2, 2016 16:57:46 GMT -5
It's not ideal. I'm not saying they should hotshot him to the top of the company (though I wouldn't mind it), but with the Mania card looking to severely lack star power, they could have pushed him a bit harder and given us an Intercontinental Title match that actually matters. You know, a properly built Styles/Owens match sounds a million times more interesting than Owens defending the belt against six meaningless midcarders.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Mar 2, 2016 16:58:19 GMT -5
It actually seems he's pretty lucky to be in the spot that he's in, given the way Vince opted to treat him right out of the gate. -Southern -Redneck -Too small -Can't talk Those were a lot of negative qualifiers to strap someone with, and a miserable way to introduce someone to your audience. That's what Vince does, though. Completely undermines his own talent because he didn't creae them first, failing to realize that he's only hurting himself in the process. Granted, I don't agree with this, and I'd have put him into the bigger picture mix right out of the gate and just establish that he's a special talent, but, alas. Vince McMahon is notorious for undermining talents. Look at Steve Austin. Austin was brought in as a mechanic. A type of performer that is designed to make others look good and hide their weaknesses. What changed McMahon's stance on Austin was his ability to talk and entertain that audience. Austin wasn't afraid to offer his input. As far as AJ Styles is concerned, he is in an environment where everybody is walking on eggshells. The reason why he got that pop at the Riyal Rumble is it was a long time arrival. I can recall the chatter back in 2001-2002 when a large portion of the internet wrestling fans wanted to see AJ Styles in the WWE. The WWE could get about three years out of AJ Styles. If their lucky, five or six years. As much as I would love to see a program with AJ Styles and Kevin Owens, the WWE is better off letting AJ Styles establish himself to the casual WWE audience. Once the foundation is done, fire off at all cylinders. The introduction of AJ Styles in the WWE reminds me when Chris Jericho debuted in 1999. A talent who came in with such fanfare only to be trying to swim in the beginning. AJ Styles is currently at the stage where he is swimming, trying not to get bit by sharks, and trying to keep his head out of the surface of the water. Seems like a wrestling cliché but it is true. The WWE has a sink or swim mentality. AJ Styles is merely trying to swim to find his footing in uncharted waters.
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Post by marino13 on Mar 2, 2016 17:01:39 GMT -5
Sticking him with Jericho is the WWE's way of getting AJ's feet wet. It gives him a partner/opponent that knows all the ins and outs and that can teach AJ the WWE way of doing things.
That being said, I believe Jericho will be facing Styles at WM not partnering with him. I think the tag title match is a set up for their feud to get personal.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Mar 2, 2016 17:04:12 GMT -5
It took Chris Jericho 4 months to get a shot at the IC Title on a PPV in 1999 after he debuted. It took him 5 months after his debut to win a championship in the WWE. AJ Styles has been there for what, 5 or 6 weeks?? To push AJ to the moon and back right now seems a bit too much.
AJ Styles and Chris Jericho winning the Tag Titles could be a great thing. It gives AJ the rub from a WWE guy, the fans who don't know him will start to catch on to him, and it could lead for some great tag matches, with maybe an eventual break up and feud with Jericho again. It worked for the likes or Jericho and Benoit back in the early 2000s.
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Post by K5 on Mar 2, 2016 17:09:35 GMT -5
i would've had him win the rumble.
yep.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Mar 2, 2016 17:13:31 GMT -5
I think AJ is lucky and probably happy that he is put into a program right away with a legend.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Mar 2, 2016 17:14:31 GMT -5
I think Jericho is a perfect pair as a team/feud for AJ. For WWE to put AJ and feature AJ in a higher profile feud shows how much they believe AJ can contribute. Jericho is a credible name with a strong reputation that can work with AJ to make AJ look even better than the awesomeness he is. The whole idea is to get Jericho to get the WWE crowd more familiar with AJ, put him over and help build his WWE character for the future. Thats why Jericho comes back. This is his way of helping the business. Jericho loves pro wrestling and wants it to thrive. He should be commended for putting his ego aside for the betterment of all.
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Post by punksnotdead on Mar 2, 2016 17:20:13 GMT -5
I don't think giving Y2J vs AJ one more shot on the big stage is the worst thing he could be doing at Mania. If they go the tag title route, I can get behind that as well. He's being prominently featured on Raw and Smackdown each week and he's being largely protected. Seems like him and Jericho are kind of buddies now too.
I honestly thought we would be getting AJ vs KO but I think that match will come. I also think AJ being with Jericho may have as much to do with Jericho needing something to do at Mania as it does with AJ needing a higher profile match.
Let me put it this way, A Double and Nakamura will be wrestling the night before WrestleMania. At least AJ will be getting his Mania match right out of the gate. Let AJ's momentum build over time. Let the audience get behind him. Keep buying those t-shirts and gloves, and the guy is going to get his opportunities.
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Post by ohernan6 on Mar 2, 2016 17:42:44 GMT -5
AJ doesn't need any one to show him the ropes. He's pretty much got the WWE style down already. Since teaming up, Jericho has actually brought down Styles... and sh*t, in my eyes, it looks like Jericho is pretty much riding on Styles' hype train...
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Post by ohernan6 on Mar 2, 2016 17:45:12 GMT -5
I agree that there are definitely better thinks AJ could be doing at WM. A match with Owens for the IC title springs to mind. But I think we all need to lower our expectations for the time being. He's been there how long? 6 weeks? WWE were never going to springboard him to the top of the card that quick, no matter how good he is.Yup... let's hold off on making that money... But then again: It actually seems he's pretty lucky to be in the spot that he's in, given the way Vince opted to treat him right out of the gate.-Southern -Redneck -Too small -Can't talkThose were a lot of negative qualifiers to strap someone with, and a miserable way to introduce someone to your audience. That's what Vince does, though. Completely undermines his own talent because he didn't creae them first, failing to realize that he's only hurting himself in the process. Granted, I don't agree with this, and I'd have put him into the bigger picture mix right out of the gate and just establish that he's a special talent, but, alas. Yeeesh!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2016 17:51:14 GMT -5
It actually seems he's pretty lucky to be in the spot that he's in, given the way Vince opted to treat him right out of the gate.
-Southern -Redneck-Too small -Can't talk Those were a lot of negative qualifiers to strap someone with, and a miserable way to introduce someone to your audience. That's what Vince does, though. Completely undermines his own talent because he didn't creae them first, failing to realize that he's only hurting himself in the process. Granted, I don't agree with this, and I'd have put him into the bigger picture mix right out of the gate and just establish that he's a special talent, but, alas.
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Post by Warrior82 on Mar 2, 2016 17:57:57 GMT -5
I think he is in a good spot right now, and I honestly think Y2J will turn on Styles. I think they will NOT win the Tag Titles and Jericho will turn on him. Or, maybe they will be about to win, and Jericho will turn on him.
Either way, I feel like in this storyline, Jericho is only with Styles for some hidden agenda. Either he wants to get Styles close to winning a title (Tag Titles in this case), then prevent it from happening (proving what Jericho said early in their feud, you can win a match, but can you become a champion?)
Or, in this story, since AJ beat Jericho 2 out of 3 fights, Jericho doesn't want AJ to shoot to Super Stardom and steal Jericho's spotlight. So, Jericho says "lets make a tag team", so he puts him self right next to Styles to share the spotlight, and ride AJ's momentum right along side him. Then, if they lose the tag title match, Jericho will turn on him thinking he is good for nothing.
One way or another, I feel there is a Y2J betrayal coming. Then perhaps they will crossover into the IC title picture for WM. Maybe just AJ vs Owens. Or, maybe Aj vs Owens vs Jericho.
No matter what, I feel AJ is in a great spot, with plenty of places to go in storyline, and I think come Mania he will be in a very high profile title match for the IC or US title.
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Post by #DI-WHY? on Mar 2, 2016 18:06:02 GMT -5
Well rumor has it that there is something big brewing for Mania.
So far Ziggler and Miz are going to be a big part of it and seeds were supposedly planted for it on Monday. BUT, maybe it wasn't so much specifically with those two, but the IC Title name drop Dolph did.
My guess?
An 8 Man IC Title Ladder Match
Owens, Styles, Jericho, Miz, Big Show, Ziggler, Neville, and Alberto Del Rio
If they gave that match 30 minutes with a Styles victory, then it has match of the night potential.
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