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Post by LA Times on Dec 6, 2016 17:27:55 GMT -5
Wow....didn't see that coming. Chris Sale traded to Boston. Well, the Yankees can forget about the playoffs in 2017. The Red Sox easily won the Division last year without him. You never know which Tanaka will show up. CC Sabathia's old knees. Nichael Pineda is a home run factory. After that, you've got Luis Cesa, Chad Greene, Brian Mitchell, Adam Warren, and Luis Severino.....all of them range from awful to mediocre. The Yankees seem to not want to trade, and there's no good starters on the market. Their one move this off season is going to overpay Chapman to sit in the bullpen and not come into any games because there won't be any leads. Good for Boston fans.....bad bad bad news for the Yankees. David Price still cant win any playoff games, Rick Porchello's pitches always end up in the porch and Pablo Sandoval's contract is crippling the Red Sox. Guys like Luis Cessa, Chad Greene, Brian Mitchell and Luis Severino would be the aces on many teams
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Post by Chip on Dec 6, 2016 17:36:08 GMT -5
I just think its funny that Red Sox fans' excuse for hating the Yankees for so many years was that they "bought their way to the title" even though most of their modern titles were won by homegrown talent, and in the last 16 years they've only won ONE World Series meanwhile the Sox can spend 30 million on Price, get bailed out of hundreds of millions by the Dodgers, trade for Chris Sale and "oh yeeeaaaahhhhh the world we're the amazing red sox!!!!" ing hypocrites. i hope Sale blows out his elbow in May
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Post by King Richius on Dec 6, 2016 18:45:15 GMT -5
I just think its funny that Red Sox fans' excuse for hating the Yankees for so many years was that they "bought their way to the title" even though most of their modern titles were won by homegrown talent, and in the last 16 years they've only won ONE World Series meanwhile the Sox can spend 30 million on Price, get bailed out of hundreds of millions by the Dodgers, trade for Chris Sale and "oh yeeeaaaahhhhh the world we're the amazing red sox!!!!" ing hypocrites. i hope Sale blows out his elbow in May Second try at a reply as I was unclear about the ONE titles won in 16 years part but I get it now. You meant the Yankees, not the Red Sox. I don't think there is much to argue against what you say. The Red Sox have taken a if you can't beat 'em then join 'em approach to countering the Yankees by trying to buy their way to titles. They regularly chase high priced free agents and always have one of the highest payrolls in MLB. I never liked that about the Yankees ever since as a kid I watched a very non-motivated Reggie Jackson give the Orioles one average season before going the free agency route to the Yankees and becoming Mr. October. In the end, I'm still a card carrying member of Red Sox nation but I for one have no illusions about how they are going about their business. Its a reflection of how all major team sports are going in the 21st century.
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Post by Chip on Dec 6, 2016 20:03:08 GMT -5
yeah my point is really that for the last 20 f-ing years all i ever heard from Sox fans was that they hated the yankees, and the yankees suck because they buy all their championships. because they had the #1 payroll in baseball for a long time, even though the red sox were almost always right behind them at #2 and during the Yankees 4 in 5 year title run, they were only the highest payroll by a small margain. it was such a bullcrapargument, and pretty poor one at that. and it really wasnt just the red sox....every other team's fans used to say that. "why do you hate the yankees?" "duh because they just buy all their good players!" yet look at the stats from 2001 (the end of the yankees little run of dominance) to 2016.....so, 15 years. Yankees World Championships - 1 Boston Red Sox World Championships - 3 Oh so I guess NOW it doesn't matter. And now the Sox continue to just go out and try to get the best players possible to win a championship.....hmm.....seem familiar? ? But of course I don't hear a ing peep out of any Boston fans about it now. And all of a sudden it's become "well that's baseball, its just what you gotta do" To be realistic, that is exactly what you're supposed to do. My beef is with the people that so deathly condemned it as their reason for despising a franchise, but then go ahead and support their own doing the same exact thing. Hypocrisy is rampant and it really gets under my skin.
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Post by BROKEN on Dec 7, 2016 10:47:17 GMT -5
Yankee fan until I die. Always have confidence! Yankees own Price and he also can't win a playoff game for the life of him.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Dec 7, 2016 10:55:03 GMT -5
If the Yankees can't get any starting pitchers, they should just build a super-bulpen by accumulating elite relievers/closers. Hell, get Chapman AND Jansen, and trade for David Robertson. Shorten the game so much that if your starter only goes 4 innings, you still have enough relievers to get through the game AND have people fresh for tomorrow.
Chapman Jansen Robertson Betances Clippard Warren
I'd also put Luis Severino in the bullpen. He's amazing out of the bullpen, but as a starter he's about as usueless as a Kardashian in the library.
The Yankees seem to be indicating that they will not get any starting pitchers this offseason. They are waiting for next year. No sense in wasting the entire season though. I'd go with the super-bullpen method and try and salvage the season.
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Post by LA Times on Dec 7, 2016 18:32:13 GMT -5
Rockies sign Ian Desmond for $70 million/5 yrs and he will play 1B which he has never done before. There were plenty of cheaper 1B options out there like Chris Carter, Mike Napoli, Ryan Howard and they wouldve given similar production with a lower BA.
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Post by cordless2016 on Dec 7, 2016 20:44:55 GMT -5
As a White Sox fan it's great to see them finally starting a rebuild. We got six great prospects and the Eaton trade was HUGE for us. Yes not all prospects pan out but I have optimism for the future considering we now have the #1 and #3 prospects in all of baseball, and six of the top 100 prospects in baseball.
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Post by Chip on Dec 8, 2016 1:12:38 GMT -5
Chapman to the Yankees 5 Years/89 Million
whew.
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Post by cordless2016 on Dec 9, 2016 0:39:32 GMT -5
Chapman to the Yankees 5 Years/89 Million whew. I have no clue what the Yankees are doing, and I doubt they do either. They just signed the most expensive reliever in baseball to sit on the bench most of the year since they won't have many leads in the 9th. Guess they didn't learn from Chapman's first stint with them.
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Post by BROKEN on Dec 11, 2016 21:04:35 GMT -5
Chapman to the Yankees 5 Years/89 Million whew. I have no clue what the Yankees are doing, and I doubt they do either. They just signed the most expensive reliever in baseball to sit on the bench most of the year since they won't have many leads in the 9th. Guess they didn't learn from Chapman's first stint with them. Trust the process. We will suceed
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Post by bad guy™ on Dec 12, 2016 16:46:11 GMT -5
Looks like Cutch is gonna survive till June. I swear if we get hot then trade him I'm burning all Pirates stuff I own.
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Post by Chip on Dec 12, 2016 18:55:31 GMT -5
I swear if we get hot then trade him I'm burning all Pirates stuff I own. vid or no proof
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Post by bad guy™ on Dec 12, 2016 19:03:57 GMT -5
I swear if we get hot then trade him I'm burning all Pirates stuff I own. vid or no proof I'll make sure that crap starts trending.
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Post by IRS on Dec 16, 2016 8:50:34 GMT -5
Phillies re-sign Odubel Herrera for 5YR/30.5M with options for '22 & '23.
I can dig it. We've had some pretty good luck with Rule 5 outfield picks.
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Post by LA Times on Dec 17, 2016 15:41:39 GMT -5
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Post by LA Times on Dec 22, 2016 21:40:07 GMT -5
Cleveland Indians sign Edwin Encarnacion for 3 yrs/$65. He had previously rejected a 4 yr/$80 million offer from the Blue Jays.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Dec 23, 2016 10:35:13 GMT -5
Cleveland Indians sign Edwin Encarnacion for 3 yrs/$65. He had previously rejected a 4 yr/$80 million offer from the Blue Jays. At 3 years/$65 million I would have said the Yankees should have gotten in on that if it wasn't for the draft pick. For a team like the Yankees who at times seem like it's impossible to score any runs, it wouldn't hurt to have another bat in the lineup. But the Yankees are going to gamble that the Bird/Austin combo works out and that Aaron Judge isn't a .175 hitter. - Sanchez, Didi, and Castro are fine. - Gardner is acceptable, except for his refusal to use his speed. - Ellsbury is good when he's not on his period, but he usually gets injured and then stops hitting. - No idea what to expect from Headley anymore. - No idea what to expect from Holiday in NY. Like I've said all along. The thing that is going to kill the Yankees is the rotation. Michael Pineda is a head case and a home run factory, and CC Sabathia has a destroyed knee and is pretty ineffective these days. Not sure what to expect from the Yankees in 2017, but that rotation has me cringing.
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Post by bad guy™ on Dec 25, 2016 7:55:10 GMT -5
Pirates sign Nova. OK.
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Post by King Richius on Jan 18, 2017 18:40:51 GMT -5
Baseball Hall of Fame: Bagwell, Raines, & Rodriguez in; Bonds & Clemens out.
As one of the old farts who is constantly blamed for holding the "alleged" P.E.D. use against Bonds and Clemens I'm happy with these results. I put "alleged" in quotes for a reason. I don't think either should go in unless there is a blinking neon asterisk next to their names. Ramirez did even worse given his P.E.D. use was proven beyond a doubt.
Still shaking my head about Schilling though. He wasn't part of any drug scandal that I remember but he has been controversial in his post baseball career with his comments and I think that is being held against him.
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