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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on May 28, 2016 19:12:41 GMT -5
Don't forget Mr. Perfect from the 4 pack was molded in orange. Just seems cheap. On a side note my earthquake didn't even come with a tattoo on his arm lol along with blue on his back. Idk I decided to jump on the Mattel bandwagon in 2010 because they didn't do stuff like this. Everything was quality. Hopefully they stop this trend. Bret's singlets were always painted...why stop now? Wow I'm really rattled that Bret's torso is cast in black.... Why is it cast in black? If there's any paint smears or smudges on the torso then you can't fix it easily and are stuck with it, this is b.s Bret, earthquake, diesel.... Ever see an earthquake figure with a blue smudge tattooed on his chest? This needs to stop before they start casting everything in black. |
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Post by TheLastDude on May 28, 2016 19:18:20 GMT -5
I don't understand why you would cast the torso in black when there is so much more exposed flesh than there is singlet. Isn't that a waste?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 19:21:22 GMT -5
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Post by PJ on May 28, 2016 19:21:40 GMT -5
I don't know how it is with their machines, but I know from painting in general it is much easier to cover a light color with a darker color than it is vise versa. I would think it takes alot more coats of flesh colored paint to cover plack plastic than it is to cover flesh colored plastic with black. And again I would have though that with these being toys they would know that the paint will chip and scratch over time from play. So why not make the attire what chips/scratches? As that would be easier to touch up.
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Post by cmiller79 on May 28, 2016 19:23:31 GMT -5
I was a little disappointed when I opened it and seen it wasn't you who made the thread All I want to know is whose getting married? |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 19:23:51 GMT -5
I don't understand why you would cast the torso in black when there is so much more exposed flesh than there is singlet. Isn't that a waste? Black as a material is the least expensive, when you do colors is when it costs. This is based off of my history of dealing with manufacturing vinyl records when black were the most common, plentiful & cheapest, while colors cost more and require minimums to order. |
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Post by The King Of Crisps on May 28, 2016 19:24:24 GMT -5
is flesh colored plastic more expensive or something?
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Post by TheLastDude on May 28, 2016 19:25:06 GMT -5
I don't know how it is with their machines, but I know from painting in general it is much easier to cover a light color with a darker color than it is vise versa. I would think it takes alot more coats of flesh colored paint to cover plack plastic than it is to cover flesh colored plastic with black. And again I would have though that with these being toys they would know that the paint will chip and scratch over time from play. So why not make the attire what chips/scratches? As that would be easier to touch up. That's why I was wondering out loud if that wasn't just stupidly wasteful. I know I'm not privy to the ins-and-outs of their production, but it seems like a no brainer to me that you would cast the torso in flesh tone and lay down a layer of black for the singlet. |
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Post by TheLastDude on May 28, 2016 19:27:10 GMT -5
I don't understand why you would cast the torso in black when there is so much more exposed flesh than there is singlet. Isn't that a waste? Black as a material is the least expensive, when you do colors is when it costs. This is based off of my history of dealing with manufacturing vinyl records when black were the most common, plentiful & cheapest, while colors cost more and require minimums to order. Makes sense. Then I guess at that point my question would shift to, why aren't ALL the torsos for EVERY figure cast in black and painted then? |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 19:30:08 GMT -5
Black as a material is the least expensive, when you do colors is when it costs. This is based off of my history of dealing with manufacturing vinyl records when black were the most common, plentiful & cheapest, while colors cost more and require minimums to order. Makes sense. Then I guess at that point my question would shift to, why aren't ALL the torsos for EVERY figure cast in black and painted then? I dunno, I could be wrong. It is a different field and item to manufacture, but I'm assuming. And I'm also basing it off of the company I work for does a lot of prototyping and manufacturing of plastic items, that's all black, and on the 3D printer we have the cheapest material is black. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 19:32:39 GMT -5
The black is the cheaper to make for sure but I started collecting mattel because they didn't do this kind of stuff. At first they only painted skin tone on Mysterio masks....
For a company that is so customizably friendly , this is a crap move
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Post by TheLastDude on May 28, 2016 19:33:55 GMT -5
Makes sense. Then I guess at that point my question would shift to, why aren't ALL the torsos for EVERY figure cast in black and painted then? I dunno, I could be wrong. It is a different field and item to manufacture, but I'm assuming. Fair enough. I think it's a decent assumption to make though. I would figure black plastic is probably cheaper as is black and red paint. I do so enjoy these behind the scenes discussion about how things are made. I don't suppose MattelDesignTeam could shed a little light on this...could you? |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 19:35:43 GMT -5
I dunno, I could be wrong. It is a different field and item to manufacture, but I'm assuming. Fair enough. I think it's a decent assumption to make though. I would figure black plastic is probably cheaper as is black and red paint. I do so enjoy these behind the scenes discussion about how things are made. I don't suppose MattelDesignTeam could shed a little light on this...could you? Sorry I updated my thread with an after thought, its no big deal, but just in case you read back on the thread. |
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Post by TheLastDude on May 28, 2016 19:41:31 GMT -5
Fair enough. I think it's a decent assumption to make though. I would figure black plastic is probably cheaper as is black and red paint. I do so enjoy these behind the scenes discussion about how things are made. I don't suppose MattelDesignTeam could shed a little light on this...could you? Sorry I updated my thread with an after thought, its no big deal, but just in case you read back on the thread. Ah, ok. I beat you to it. Ha! I went back and read what you added. I'm sure you're probably right. |
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Post by Sizzle on May 28, 2016 19:44:13 GMT -5
The title damn near killed me. |
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Post by ty2005_92 on May 28, 2016 19:52:31 GMT -5
This is  ing infuriating. This was going to be my favorite elite Bret. Why would they do this? |
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Post by thebadguy on May 28, 2016 23:33:23 GMT -5
Nice pics. PJ - can you post a pic of the Elite 43 and Wrestlemania 32 (if you have it) Bret's side-by-side for comparison?
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Post by legendsguy on May 28, 2016 23:39:02 GMT -5
yea the skin tone crap has to go.. ive been noticing it lately , the nastys have it also... so its an obvious cost issue i guess.. because they didnt use to do this.
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Post by ty2005_92 on May 29, 2016 0:07:40 GMT -5
I would have rather of not had a Samoa Joe cloth shirt, and instead had the figures receive proper paint jobs. Absolutely disappointing. I'm still going to pick up this whole series, 2 of each more than likely. I can't help it! I just hope enough of us voice our opinions on the suggestion board!
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Post by coldblooded on May 29, 2016 1:25:51 GMT -5
That Bret looks like a bad custom with that skin tone.
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