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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 7, 2016 16:20:07 GMT -5
Rob a bank?? Life in prison with no chance of parole!
Rape or murder someone?? 10 years with a chance of parole at 4 years.
Court systems never make any sense.
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Post by BCizzle on Jun 7, 2016 16:20:23 GMT -5
I don't know why girls are so stupid that they think they can get completely wasted and that nothing bad can come from it.
It certainly doesn't mean it's okay for some creep to come along and rape her - that's completely unacceptable and immoral and sick.
But I don't run through bad neighborhoods holding hundred dollar bills in the air.
I do think we need to punish rapists more and way too many guys get off with light sentences for nasty crimes. Rape is a real violation of a person - all crimes leave you feeling violated, and it feels like crap, I can't imagine how being raped must feel.
But at the same time, don't go get wasted and pass out around horny creepy guys, for the love of Pete!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 17:31:05 GMT -5
I don't know why girls are so stupid that they think they can get completely wasted and that nothing bad can come from it. It certainly doesn't mean it's okay for some creep to come along and rape her - that's completely unacceptable and immoral and sick. But I don't run through bad neighborhoods holding hundred dollar bills in the air. I do think we need to punish rapists more and way too many guys get off with light sentences for nasty crimes. Rape is a real violation of a person - all crimes leave you feeling violated, and it feels like crap, I can't imagine how being raped must feel. But at the same time, don't go get wasted and pass out around horny creepy guys, for the love of Pete! This kind of logic is what probably led to this bunghole getting six months in jail.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jun 7, 2016 17:56:44 GMT -5
This is just the world we live in now. Everything is about sex and and drugs and no one cares anymore and no one is punished properly for anything which means the issue will never be solved. Remember when the world was atleast a decent place? Yeah I miss that. No, well-to-do WHITE people don't get punished for anything. If this guy was black or Hispanic that "judge" would have nailed his ass to the wall. He would have done a minimum of 5-10 years and would have to register as a sex offender when he came home. And this is coming from a middle class white guy.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jun 7, 2016 17:58:20 GMT -5
One of the most prolific pedofiles in history was just sentenced to only 25 years here. He molested literally hundreds of children. It's appalling how lenient sex crime sentences are. Then again, in the UK, killing someone isn't a life sentence, you may get 10 years or so. Yeah I don't understand how (or why) European laws are not stiffer for murderers. Iirc the EVIL as dude who did that island shooting in Norway 5 years or so got like 20 years total for all of those murders. At least there was some loop hole where they can keep the murderer if they don't feel they are rehabilitated but it seems they let most of them out. I just feel that it is some BS that someone can murder someone and only get like 10-20 years. Anders Brevik will never be released from prison.
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Post by King Silva on Jun 7, 2016 17:58:39 GMT -5
This is just the world we live in now. Everything is about sex and and drugs and no one cares anymore and no one is punished properly for anything which means the issue will never be solved. Remember when the world was atleast a decent place? Yeah I miss that. No, well-to-do WHITE people don't get punished for anything. If this guy was black or Hispanic that "judge" would have nailed his ass to the wall. He would have done a minimum of 5-10 years and would have to register as a sex offender when he came home. And this is coming from a middle class white guy. Sad but true.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jun 7, 2016 18:10:49 GMT -5
I don't know why girls are so stupid that they think they can get completely wasted and that nothing bad can come from it. It certainly doesn't mean it's okay for some creep to come along and rape her - that's completely unacceptable and immoral and sick. But I don't run through bad neighborhoods holding hundred dollar bills in the air. I do think we need to punish rapists more and way too many guys get off with light sentences for nasty crimes. Rape is a real violation of a person - all crimes leave you feeling violated, and it feels like crap, I can't imagine how being raped must feel. But at the same time, don't go get wasted and pass out around horny creepy guys, for the love of Pete! Girls SHOULD be able to get as drunk as they want without needing to worry about anyone taking advantage of them. Saying that, based on their actions, women should expect rape is indescribably evil. How do we know that this guy didn't get her super drunk at a party so he could rape her? We don't have ask the facts but we do know two things: this woman is a victim and this guy (I refuse to call him a man) is an unapologetic rapist.
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Post by BCizzle on Jun 7, 2016 18:41:43 GMT -5
This kind of logic is what probably led to this bunghole getting six months in jail. I said we should punish rapists more. I would be fine if he got 20 years in jail. But hey, see what you want to see, I guess. Girls SHOULD be able to get as drunk as they want without needing to worry about anyone taking advantage of them. Saying that, based on their actions, women should expect rape is indescribably evil. Isn't being drunk in public a crime? So I would assume getting so drunk/wasted that you pass out in public would be worse than that. And where did I ever say a drunk girl should expect to be raped? I'm indescribably evil? When I hate crime and think we should punish criminals more?
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Post by The Real Valbroski on Jun 7, 2016 20:45:12 GMT -5
I really can't believe the justice system in this country. If I was that boys father I'd have his ass locked up for good, he ruined some girls life now he needs to be raped and see how it feels. i think that this young man clearly deserved a more severe punishment, but wishing rape on ANYONE is just really ed up. and i see it time and time again with people talking about people in jail, like it's just so great to consider that a man (criminal or not) is going to be sexually abused and molested. that is a form of torture - not rehabilitation. clean up your jailing institutions, make the prevalence of male sexual abuse and violence less of a threat (it's supposed to be a controlled are), and then there would be far less argument to keeping a guy under 25 outta there. wishing rape upon a rapist is not okay. agreed.
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Post by TheLastDude on Jun 7, 2016 20:51:55 GMT -5
I don't know why girls are so stupid that they think they can get completely wasted and that nothing bad can come from it. But at the same time, don't go get wasted and pass out around horny creepy guys, for the love of Pete! I said I was going to stay out of this thread, but I have to comment on this. You're 100% wrong here and that's unabashed victim blaming. It sounds just like what the letter written by this piece of shit's childhood best friend says: Do people lie about being raped because they feel shame for hooking up with a stranger at a party? Sure, of course it happens. But in this case? No. The coward was caught ing her behind a dumpster while she was unconscious and then legged it when he was caught. That's not "oh, we were just hooking up". She was un- ing-conscious and he knew he had been caught. You say "I don't know why girls are so stupid that they think they can get completely wasted and that nothing bad can come from it." So...she was asking for it? Because that's exactly what you're saying. You say "don't go getting wasted and pass out around horny creepy guys"? What makes them horny and creepy? Can I put you in a room with fifty strangers and have you pick out the rapist, the pedophile, the adulterer, and the thief? I'd wager a cool ton of cash you wouldn't be able to, so why should she? The simple fact of the matter is that no matter what she chose to do, this bunghole had absolutely zero right to do what he did. Nothing changes that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 21:04:49 GMT -5
I don't know why girls are so stupid that they think they can get completely wasted and that nothing bad can come from it. It certainly doesn't mean it's okay for some creep to come along and rape her - that's completely unacceptable and immoral and sick. But I don't run through bad neighborhoods holding hundred dollar bills in the air. I do think we need to punish rapists more and way too many guys get off with light sentences for nasty crimes. Rape is a real violation of a person - all crimes leave you feeling violated, and it feels like crap, I can't imagine how being raped must feel. But at the same time, don't go get wasted and pass out around horny creepy guys, for the love of Pete! This is the most ed up logic you can have. So a girl shouldnt have a good time, because guys are around and she might get raped? How about, you shouldnt rape someone. Hes the only one at fault. No one else. He should of had his head caved in. Im expecting the thread to be locked anytime now
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 21:29:53 GMT -5
I don't know why girls are so stupid that they think they can get completely wasted and that nothing bad can come from it. It certainly doesn't mean it's okay for some creep to come along and rape her - that's completely unacceptable and immoral and sick. But I don't run through bad neighborhoods holding hundred dollar bills in the air. I do think we need to punish rapists more and way too many guys get off with light sentences for nasty crimes. Rape is a real violation of a person - all crimes leave you feeling violated, and it feels like crap, I can't imagine how being raped must feel. But at the same time, don't go get wasted and pass out around horny creepy guys, for the love of Pete! This is the most ed up logic you can have. So a girl shouldnt have a good time, because guys are around and she might get raped? How about, you shouldnt rape someone. Hes the only one at fault. No one else. He should of had his head caved in. Im expecting the thread to be locked anytime now 100% this. It amazes me how victims, especially women are blamed before the vile creatures that committed the crime. Lock that freak up for life, or put it down, IDGAF. Either way, thoughts and prayers for the girl, whose life is forever changed.
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Jun 8, 2016 0:34:05 GMT -5
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Jun 8, 2016 0:47:19 GMT -5
"20 minutes of action" loool you can't teach that kind of comedy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 0:56:19 GMT -5
The father sounds like just as much of a piece of crapas his son. Pathetic.
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Post by BCizzle on Jun 8, 2016 1:16:26 GMT -5
Some of you guys are just so programmed to say "victim blaming" that you won't listen to reason.
I think the guy should have put away for 20 years! Or more! It was all his fault!
But if you pass out drunk in public, you are making yourself a target for creeps.
I don't want any women to get raped by anyone! Leaving yourself vulnerable is only going to lead to somebody getting hurt - and I don't want that to happen.
YOLO - You Outta Look Out
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Post by King Silva on Jun 8, 2016 3:20:43 GMT -5
The father sounds like just as much of a piece of crap as his son. Pathetic. Wow I just got done reading it and it is so damn sad. Can we seriously get any judge to challenge this er so he can lose and get the boot?! I am so annoyed that no judge is even trying to get his job. If they were smart they would apply because it is pretty much a slam dunk secure job for 10 years (iirc that is the term limit for CA judges).
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Post by Angel Beast on Jun 8, 2016 5:12:57 GMT -5
Some of you guys are just so programmed to say "victim blaming" that you won't listen to reason. I think the guy should have put away for 20 years! Or more! It was all his fault! But if you pass out drunk in public, you are making yourself a target for creeps. I don't want any women to get raped by anyone! Leaving yourself vulnerable is only going to lead to somebody getting hurt - and I don't want that to happen. YOLO - You Outta Look Out You're still victim blaming. You keep throwing in the "but you shouldn't be drunk and pass out in public." That's ing victim blaming. Sober and aware or drunk and passed out its not that girl's fault she was raped.
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Post by Sizzle on Jun 8, 2016 8:31:48 GMT -5
Reading that was intense. It almost made me cry. She didn't deserve that, but the rapist deserves life in prison. You don't do that to a human being and not suffer punishment for it...
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Post by J12 on Jun 8, 2016 10:06:24 GMT -5
The fact that, after listening to this girl read her statement aloud, the judge came to the conclusion that he did, makes the whole thing all the more sickening.
EDIT: I just now read the father's plea to the judge. I almost couldn't get through it I was so disgusted. His son's plight in this matter amounts to his inability to consume the copious amounts of food he used to prior to brutally assaulting a woman? Excellent.
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