WarChild88
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Post by WarChild88 on Jun 14, 2016 14:27:12 GMT -5
Why did they use Backlund to win the wwf title at survivor series and not Owen. I understand putting it on diesel but he could have done that at rumble against Backlund if necessary. Owen should have been given the rub against bret for the strap and if the reason is because of the msg house show, then why not make Backlund defend the title for like a month against jobbers saying how great he is and then get squashed by diesel at like raw or rumble. THIS HAS ALWAYS CONFUSED ME.
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Post by marino13 on Jun 14, 2016 14:46:18 GMT -5
Why did they use Backlund to win the wwf title at survivor series and not Owen. I understand putting it on diesel but he could have done that at rumble against Backlund if necessary. Owen should have been given the rub against bret for the strap and if the reason is because of the msg house show, then why not make Backlund defend the title for like a month against jobbers saying how great he is and then get squashed by diesel at like raw or rumble. THIS HAS ALWAYS CONFUSED ME. Very good question. Not sure why they went with Bob over Owen. Hopefully someone can give better insight than I could. Since this is an older question, I'm going to move this to the classic section. Probably get better answers there anyhow.
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Post by WarChild88 on Jun 14, 2016 15:10:38 GMT -5
Why did they use Backlund to win the wwf title at survivor series and not Owen. I understand putting it on diesel but he could have done that at rumble against Backlund if necessary. Owen should have been given the rub against bret for the strap and if the reason is because of the msg house show, then why not make Backlund defend the title for like a month against jobbers saying how great he is and then get squashed by diesel at like raw or rumble. THIS HAS ALWAYS CONFUSED ME. Very good question. Not sure why they went with Bob over Owen. Hopefully someone can give better insight than I could. Since this is an older question, I'm going to move this to the classic section. Probably get better answers there anyhow. I appreciate it man and yeah still blows my mind but Backlund's lead up to the match was his best work ever. I lived the whole build up to it and the Owen swerve. I wish they would slow build feuds now a days like they used to back in the day.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 14, 2016 16:12:19 GMT -5
Owen winning the WWE Title from Bret has less impact than Owen helping someone else beat from Bret.
Owen celebrating a WWE Title win only to lose it 2 days later to Diesel would have killed his momentum. But Owen carrying around that damn towel for months and months, showing that it was the reason why Bret lost the WWE Title was huge!
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Post by WarChild88 on Jun 14, 2016 20:01:20 GMT -5
Owen winning the WWE Title from Bret has less impact than Owen helping someone else beat from Bret. Owen celebrating a WWE Title win only to lose it 2 days later to Diesel would have killed his momentum. But Owen carrying around that damn towel for months and months, showing that it was the reason why Bret lost the WWE Title was huge! I'm not saying Owen should have lost to Nash, I'm just saying if the point was to just put it on diesel they could have had bret lose to Owen. Owen beat him again at rumble. Why not have Hart vs diesel at mania and diesel go over there bret could have been special ref. I just always thought Owen got the real heat at ss not Backlund and Owen should have been in that main event
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Post by WarChild88 on Jun 14, 2016 20:03:16 GMT -5
Why not create 2 top draws instead of one. If too say Owen vs diesel couldn't have drew at mania. I don't buy it Owen would have really heat beating bret a few times lose to Diesel thanks to bret than they feud up until the cage match at summerslam.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jun 15, 2016 12:27:59 GMT -5
Was Backlund even a draw? I don't remember him being popular.
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Post by PJ on Jun 16, 2016 8:36:19 GMT -5
Not sure about after his return with the crazy gimmick, because I was watching WCW then, but in the 70's - 80's up until the birth of Hulkamania4life he was a huge draw.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Jun 16, 2016 14:40:20 GMT -5
Let me just put this out there. Bob Backlund's 1994 WWF Championship reign was one of those thank you reigns (ala Hulk Hogan in 2002). It would have made zero sense putting the WWF Championship on Own Hart. I can't remember where I heard this from but there was a plan by late-Spring 1994 to put the WWF Championship on Diesel. Given how the top attractions weren't overexposed, it made sense to book long-term in 1994. The ending of Bret Hart/Bob Backlund was very reminiscent of how Backlund initially lost the WWF Championship in 1983. Backlund mentioned on The Ross Report that he knew his role in 1994 and he didn't mind doing the 8 second job to Diesel at Madison Square Garden. If people really delve into this time period, you'll see why the WWF booked the way they did in 1994. Plus, Backlund's heel turn was done to perfection. Watching those RAW's from 1994 made me appreciate Backlund more than ever. Was Backlund even a draw? I don't remember him being popular. When Bob Backlund become the WWWF Champion in 1978, he was the sole choice to dethrone Superstar Billy Graham. Not to mention, Billy Graham was somewhat reluctant to lose the championship. What a large number of fans don't realize that we felt the impact of 1978 in 1994. We all know Hogan was the face of the company from 1984-1993. Not to mention, Hogan was influenced by Superstar Billy Graham. Since Vincent K. McMahon allowed Hogan to be his top guy, he wanted something similar with Lex Luger and Diesel.
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Post by WarChild88 on Jun 17, 2016 11:18:19 GMT -5
Let me just put this out there. Bob Backlund's 1994 WWF Championship reign was one of those thank you reigns (ala Hulk Hogan in 2002). It would have made zero sense putting the WWF Championship on Own Hart. I can't remember where I heard this from but there was a plan by late-Spring 1994 to put the WWF Championship on Diesel. Given how the top attractions weren't overexposed, it made sense to book long-term in 1994. The ending of Bret Hart/Bob Backlund was very reminiscent of how Backlund initially lost the WWF Championship in 1983. Backlund mentioned on The Ross Report that he knew his role in 1994 and he didn't mind doing the 8 second job to Diesel at Madison Square Garden. If people really delve into this time period, you'll see why the WWF booked the way they did in 1994. Plus, Backlund's heel turn was done to perfection. Watching those RAW's from 1994 made me appreciate Backlund more than ever. Was Backlund even a draw? I don't remember him being popular. When Bob Backlund become the WWWF Champion in 1978, he was the sole choice to dethrone Superstar Billy Graham. Not to mention, Billy Graham was somewhat reluctant to lose the championship. What a large number of fans don't realize that we felt the impact of 1978 in 1994. We all know Hogan was the face of the company from 1984-1993. Not to mention, Hogan was influenced by Superstar Billy Graham. Since Vincent K. McMahon allowed Hogan to be his top guy, he wanted something similar with Lex Luger and Diesel. McMahon made horrible decisions to put the belt of diesel and totally messed up lugar. If he would have stayed with the narcissist gimmick he would have probably been a massive heel and champion. Diesel was so over but a string of bad feuds with Bigelow and Mabel left him a boring and not great champion. Razor as champ would have been better he was way more over than diesel and worked with better talent had better feuds. Idk why Owen as champ makes no sense bret could have put him over and diesel win at the mania in a triple threat and bret gets another shot later down the line like he did at the next rumble. Backlund was super over he did great work and he had a fantastic match at survivor series where he won the title. I just think it should have been owen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 16:53:44 GMT -5
PJ, Billy Graham says Backlund was not super over when he was the champion. Graham says it was a BAD idea for him to lose the title to Bobby. His youtube video make a lot of sense. It was McMahon trying ala Roman Reigns to shoehorn in someone HE thought would be popular.
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Post by PJ on Jun 17, 2016 19:01:16 GMT -5
I loved watching Graham, but of course he will say it was a bad idea for him to drop the belt to Backlund. What champion is going to say it was the right move for them to drop the title? Especially a talent as great as Graham was? And it doesn't change the fact that Backlund was super popular with the fans. One of my favorite Graham moments was when he came back to the WWF bald in karate pants and proceeded to rip the championship belt into pieces with his hands while Backlund cried. Of course one of his earlier matches with Backlund was when I knew for sure wrestling was scripted. I watched/heard Backlund call a sequence of moves plain as day right before they did the exact sequence of moves.
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