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Post by SteveHulk on Jul 18, 2016 23:21:27 GMT -5
I think this scandal is a huge black eye on the sport with Jones and Lesnar right now. UFC is bigger and stronger than it was the last time it was being looked down upon. They need to right this ship and quickly. UFC has the ability to become one of the top 4 sports in America. Right now...its probably just barely under hockey and I mean barely. Its already surpassed boxing. They're already righting the ship though... the UFC were the ones that wanted and brought in all this drug testing in the first place. They're trying hard to clean up the sport - but it's going to take time (and a few high-profile casualties)... |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 19, 2016 15:49:22 GMT -5
I think this scandal is a huge black eye on the sport with Jones and Lesnar right now. UFC is bigger and stronger than it was the last time it was being looked down upon. They need to right this ship and quickly. UFC has the ability to become one of the top 4 sports in America. Right now...its probably just barely under hockey and I mean barely. Its already surpassed boxing. They're already righting the ship though... the UFC were the ones that wanted and brought in all this drug testing in the first place. They're trying hard to clean up the sport - but it's going to take time (and a few high-profile casualties)... Yes but right now UFC looks like they held off on the Lesnar failed test till after the the sale was finalized. UFC would have allowed a known PED user to step into the octagon and could easily cause a law suit by Hunt, if in fact they did know and did not disclose it. |
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Post by K5 on Jul 21, 2016 9:02:51 GMT -5
i think the greatest backlash is yet to be seen in mma - it's first major death in a cage has still not happened (thankfully), and if and when society will heavily review ufc's role.
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Post by attitudesback on Jul 21, 2016 16:20:23 GMT -5
I think this scandal is a huge black eye on the sport with Jones and Lesnar right now. UFC is bigger and stronger than it was the last time it was being looked down upon. They need to right this ship and quickly. UFC has the ability to become one of the top 4 sports in America. Right now...its probably just barely under hockey and I mean barely. Its already surpassed boxing. The 'scandal' is great in the long run. UFC is going to be a clean organisation, no doubts or controversies behind the fighters being on steroids, so yes the short term is bad but the long term will be great for the sport. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 21, 2016 16:55:03 GMT -5
I think this scandal is a huge black eye on the sport with Jones and Lesnar right now. UFC is bigger and stronger than it was the last time it was being looked down upon. They need to right this ship and quickly. UFC has the ability to become one of the top 4 sports in America. Right now...its probably just barely under hockey and I mean barely. Its already surpassed boxing. The 'scandal' is great in the long run. UFC is going to be a clean organisation, no doubts or controversies behind the fighters being on steroids, so yes the short term is bad but the long term will be great for the sport. UFC has always come across as a clean sport in the modern era. Like in the Jones situation....pulled him from the card with just 2 days to go. But the Lesnar thing is different, bc they knowingly allowed him to fight knowing he failed his test for PEDs. |
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Post by attitudesback on Jul 21, 2016 17:34:05 GMT -5
The 'scandal' is great in the long run. UFC is going to be a clean organisation, no doubts or controversies behind the fighters being on steroids, so yes the short term is bad but the long term will be great for the sport. UFC has always come across as a clean sport in the modern era. Like in the Jones situation....pulled him from the card with just 2 days to go. But the Lesnar thing is different, bc they knowingly allowed him to fight knowing he failed his test for PEDs. Did they though? The results didn't come back after the fight. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 21, 2016 17:58:14 GMT -5
UFC has always come across as a clean sport in the modern era. Like in the Jones situation....pulled him from the card with just 2 days to go. But the Lesnar thing is different, bc they knowingly allowed him to fight knowing he failed his test for PEDs. Did they though? The results didn't come back after the fight. That was the 2nd. The first came back before the fight. |
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Post by attitudesback on Jul 21, 2016 18:02:20 GMT -5
Did they though? The results didn't come back after the fight. That was the 2nd. The first came back before the fight. Holy crap, I had no idea. I thought the UFC were notified of both after the competition? The statement reads that they were notified July 15th, UFC 200 was on July 9th. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Jul 21, 2016 19:05:57 GMT -5
That was the 2nd. The first came back before the fight. Holy crap, I had no idea. I thought the UFC were notified of both after the competition? The statement reads that they were notified July 15th, UFC 200 was on July 9th. ...yeah, that's correct - I'm not sure where King Bálor (CM)™ is getting his info, but the first failed test didn't come back until after the fight (and he'd already passed about 6 tests... that's why it so strange). If Brock had failed a test beforehand, there's no way he'd have been allowed to fight. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 22, 2016 1:19:28 GMT -5
Holy crap, I had no idea. I thought the UFC were notified of both after the competition? The statement reads that they were notified July 15th, UFC 200 was on July 9th. ...yeah, that's correct - I'm not sure where King Bálor (CM)™ is getting his info, but the first failed test didn't come back until after the fight (and he'd already passed about 6 tests... that's why it so strange). If Brock had failed a test beforehand, there's no way he'd have been allowed to fight. A lot of MMA experts along with myself believe that UFC held back the results of the first test bc of the pending sale. $4billion is A LOT of money. Ironic the results came days after UFC was sold. The timeline between Lesnar's test and Jones' is off. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Jul 22, 2016 5:45:57 GMT -5
...yeah, that's correct - I'm not sure where King Bálor (CM)™ is getting his info, but the first failed test didn't come back until after the fight (and he'd already passed about 6 tests... that's why it so strange). If Brock had failed a test beforehand, there's no way he'd have been allowed to fight. A lot of MMA experts along with myself believe that UFC held back the results of the first test bc of the pending sale. $4billion is A LOT of money. Ironic the results came days after UFC was sold. The timeline between Lesnar's test and Jones' is off. I don't believe it for a second - a sale of this magnitude wouldn't have been a last-minute thing... it was probably all planned-out for months, to coincide with UFC 200. Also, they had been testing Jones a lot longer than they had Brock, so the timing seems pretty genuine to me... I mean, they only found out about Jones failing just days before the event. |
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Post by J-MANN on Jul 22, 2016 17:38:22 GMT -5
Now a lot of people are saying this $4 billion deal may be off.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 22, 2016 19:55:53 GMT -5
A lot of MMA experts along with myself believe that UFC held back the results of the first test bc of the pending sale. $4billion is A LOT of money. Ironic the results came days after UFC was sold. The timeline between Lesnar's test and Jones' is off. I don't believe it for a second - a sale of this magnitude wouldn't have been a last-minute thing... it was probably all planned-out for months, to coincide with UFC 200. Also, they had been testing Jones a lot longer than they had Brock, so the timing seems pretty genuine to me... I mean, they only found out about Jones failing just days before the event. Didnt say the sale was last second. I said they didnt want to jeopardize it. Sales of this magnitude are announced as soon as pen is put to paper. Clearly UFC did NOT have pen to paper before 200. An agreement in standing, I am sure they had. But theres no way it was signed before 200. Now a lot of people are saying this $4 billion deal may be off. Unless there is an out clause for some PR nightmare or a violation of the contract due to knowing suppressing Brock's results....cant see how. Clearly, I have no idea the exact wording. But I would be pretty surprised if this sale could become null and void for something like this. So UFC aint worth 4 billion....its worth 3.99 billion now? Im sure an amendment can be processed. |
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