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Post by RybackV1 on Aug 7, 2016 21:59:56 GMT -5
I figured out immediately that Larry Eddie Hall and Nash was the next HOF 4 Pack and was scrapped. Not sure why there's still speculation about that months after conformation.
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Post by ⋔ 4 ℞ ℞ $ on Aug 8, 2016 0:35:47 GMT -5
also did Stinger ever have long hair as the crow? As soon as I saw this figure, I just KNEW someone would ask about the Wolfpac Sting head being re-painted as Crow form, and resulting in an inquisitive inquiry whether or not the scan painted that way correlated properly or what have you. Welp, coincidentally enough a mere few days ago, I was binge-watching old Nitros from Summer 1998 on the Network. As big a fan as I was at the time, and despite my typically elephant-esque memory made of ivory tusk, somehow one scene/match had managed to slip through the cracks in my mind. So as I stammered, stuttered & stumbled through some of the scenarios/angles, I came across something the other day that I thought would make a cool figure from Mattel in some form or fashion, then lo & behold, it's shown just days later; quite the premonition, I suppose. But anyhow, Bret Hart was lobbying for Sting's friendship, in spite of the fact that he had previously shown in months prior that he could not be trusted, seeing as he was a "Hogan-ite" (laughable, considering in reality he was far from it, especially when reminiscing in shoot interviews, books & the like). This was evident in the fact that he interfered & cost Macho Man by in his month-later, May World Title re-match (Macho vs Hogan happened on April 20th & May 19th, IIRC), Savage fighting on behalf of the Wolfpac by that point in the WCW 1998 Timeline. Macho won the belt @ Spring Stampede as a member of the black & white from Crow Sting, then the very next night, as was typically the case due to Hogan's creative control carte blanche, which was repeated again in Summer of 1999 via much the same manner, he lost it to fellow NWO member Hollywood Hogan, since they couldn't get along in the story line at this point (not so ironically mirroring reality), which became the cause of the eventual faction split with Nash (also feuding with Hogan via verbal barbs only at the time), Savage & Konnan creating the red & black Wolfpac attack, which Hennig & Rude faux-joined (before revealing they were black & white 4 Life), then Luger, and eventually, Sting, on June 1st. So back to Bret, who I believe also "accidentally" cost Sting & Nash the tag titles on a July 20th episode of Nitro (those that Sting won at G.A.B. from Giant & chose Nash as his partner), so Hall & Giant were now champs. Meanwhile, Bret kept trying to butter up his "hero" Sting, while also building up Hogan, so as to be confusing I guess was the point of the whole ordeal? It ends up just being muddled & murky overall, so ya almost hafta go back and watch everything transpire in order with the way things were booked in that at-the-time-beloved company! So, during the one episode I was watching from August, they showed a clip of the week before where Luger was laid out in the back, Sting finding him that way, then walking off. Mean Gene couldn't get Sting to answer knocks at his dressing room door, nor could Bret Hart, who then conducted a backstage interview with a hardly fooled Okerlund, what with Hart's recent past antics. Later that night it'd be Sting & Hart vs. Giant & Hall, however, for the tag team titles, but Sting was nowhere to be found and had supposedly even left the building. By main event match time though, Sting came down from the rafters, sporting the black & white, reverting back to the Crow look for one night only, including a solo-scorpion singlet just like the one MDT made and has now shown at Super Toy Con. I truly think Bill might be one of us more than we could ever imagine, perhaps even grabbing ideas from stuff like what I just described, as he too may even watch old shows on the Network from time to time...it's not impossible, albeit he is ONE busy dude! Anyways, I did think that'd be cool to portray one day, and it didn't take long for that idea to come to fruition, as if I transported the idea straight into Bill's mind. One other off-topic thing I noticed before, somewhat related to this entire notion, regards Rey Mysterio's BP 33 attire. I always wondered when he wore it, among his many WCW looks back in the day, but that one not being necessarily one of his more prevalent appearances, as in certainly not frequent! However, without looking for it many moons/months ago, I decided to watch the infamous Finger Poke of Doom Nitro episode from January 4th, 1999, along with the unfolding story of Goldberg being arrested, then of course that "remember where you were when it happened" (in my bathroom taking a leak with the door open, while watching my bedroom television set of Nash & Hogan locking up, then Nash falling from a finger poke, not that anyone cared to know that tidbit, but offered free of charge) event where Wolfpac & Hollywood morphed into Wolfpac Elite or whatever they called it. Welp, during that episode, Mysterio sports said, aforementioned attire. Perhaps THAT'S where Bill found it?!!??!!? Or not! Probably the latter! LMAO. Anyhow, I forget which precise August '98 Nitro it was at this very moment, but here's the long-haired Wolfpac Sting AS Crow Sting for one night only in much lesser quality (not that it needed ALL this elongated explanation, but eh, I was bored & decided to give the 411 on it as best I could...hope ya enjoyed! At the very least, it answers your question, so there's that anyways!): {TLDR Version: Short Answer = Yes . . . Sting had long hair AT LEAST once in the Summer of 1998, which can be witnessed for oneself in this poor quality video or on the WWE Network, and probably properly explained—if not better, then definitely in a more concise manner than myself—by the commentators during Sting's "WolfpaCrow" entrance/the ensuing match, as he reverted back to the darker side of his (id)entity for one night only at the time.}
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Post by xtremer18 on Aug 8, 2016 7:46:47 GMT -5
Very happy to see the painted up AJ Styles and elite Ascension! I'm going to be really tempted to purchase AJ's basic, even though the elite is in the same gear and I'm planning on buying two of those.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Aug 8, 2016 11:57:57 GMT -5
Very happy to see the painted up AJ Styles and elite Ascension! I'm going to be really tempted to purchase AJ's basic, even though the elite is in the same gear and I'm planning on buying two of those. is the elite the same attire? Didn't someone say that the basic is the only one that's going to be in his Royal Rumble attire?
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Post by The Assassin on Aug 8, 2016 12:32:05 GMT -5
Hey @shockwayne did you post a summary of your chat with Bill from day 2? I remember you got tons of info the first day and people sent you loads of extra questions to ask on day 2, but I don't recall seeing you actually make a post about the day 2 conversation. I may have missed it, or perhaps you didn't chat much with Bill on day 2 but just wondered, cheers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 12:44:35 GMT -5
Very happy to see the painted up AJ Styles and elite Ascension! I'm going to be really tempted to purchase AJ's basic, even though the elite is in the same gear and I'm planning on buying two of those. is the elite the same attire? Didn't someone say that the basic is the only one that's going to be in his Royal Rumble attire? Nope they are both his royal rumble attire.
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Post by xtremer18 on Aug 8, 2016 13:06:15 GMT -5
Very happy to see the painted up AJ Styles and elite Ascension! I'm going to be really tempted to purchase AJ's basic, even though the elite is in the same gear and I'm planning on buying two of those. is the elite the same attire? Didn't someone say that the basic is the only one that's going to be in his Royal Rumble attire? I did not hear of anyone confirming that so I'm not sure if things have changed; the rendition from Comic Con showed it in his Rumble gear.
Here is the pic from Ringside's Instagram:
http://instagram.com/p/BIIvwjKAmAZ
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Post by cableV on Aug 8, 2016 17:35:07 GMT -5
Very happy to see the painted up AJ Styles and elite Ascension! I'm going to be really tempted to purchase AJ's basic, even though the elite is in the same gear and I'm planning on buying two of those. is the elite the same attire? Didn't someone say that the basic is the only one that's going to be in his Royal Rumble attire? AJ said it during one of his interviews that weekend. He was probably unaware of the Elite.
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Post by dannybosa on Aug 8, 2016 19:15:08 GMT -5
It doesn't make sense to me to have ajs elite and basic have the same attire.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Aug 8, 2016 19:34:36 GMT -5
is the elite the same attire? Didn't someone say that the basic is the only one that's going to be in his Royal Rumble attire? AJ said it during one of his interviews that weekend. He was probably unaware of the Elite. That must be where I remember hearing it from then...
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Post by KPnDC on Aug 9, 2016 1:27:32 GMT -5
Why did they change this anyways. Why fix what isnt broken Has to be cost cutting right? Remember when Bill spoke on how he has to continue to fight to save articulation.
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Post by KPnDC on Aug 9, 2016 1:29:37 GMT -5
my SDCC question..."will we see more than 6 figures in an elite wave, since basics are getting like 9 now?" MDT...."NO" 2 weeks later...."elite 47 has 12 figures in it" If I remember correctly, he said that they would just add more waves. Which is kind of what he's done.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 7:46:53 GMT -5
Hey @shockwayne did you post a summary of your chat with Bill from day 2? I remember you got tons of info the first day and people sent you loads of extra questions to ask on day 2, but I don't recall seeing you actually make a post about the day 2 conversation. I may have missed it, or perhaps you didn't chat much with Bill on day 2 but just wondered, cheers. There was a lot more people at his booth the second day. Didn't want to overstep and talk too much. I got a couple questions in about torsos being molded one color and then painted in flesh, and then the dual wave for first set of the year E47 A & B. I swear I asked another question, but I'll have to try and remember. Lots going on the past couple days lol
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Post by PJ on Aug 9, 2016 8:47:57 GMT -5
Hey @shockwayne did you post a summary of your chat with Bill from day 2? I remember you got tons of info the first day and people sent you loads of extra questions to ask on day 2, but I don't recall seeing you actually make a post about the day 2 conversation. I may have missed it, or perhaps you didn't chat much with Bill on day 2 but just wondered, cheers. There was a lot more people at his booth the second day. Didn't want to overstep and talk too much. I got a couple questions in about torsos being molded one color and then painted in flesh, and then the dual wave for first set of the year E47 A & B. I swear I asked another question, but I'll have to try and remember. Lots going on the past couple days lol Did you post the answer to the torso being painted? Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 15:12:41 GMT -5
There was a lot more people at his booth the second day. Didn't want to overstep and talk too much. I got a couple questions in about torsos being molded one color and then painted in flesh, and then the dual wave for first set of the year E47 A & B. I swear I asked another question, but I'll have to try and remember. Lots going on the past couple days lol Did you post the answer to the torso being painted? Thanks No sir - he simply said it was a cost cutting measure, they get factory samples of the final version and put the stamp on it to be mass produced. He said they are on it, but didn't seem like he was much aware of the issues we've been having. I gave him an example with warrior being molded in red then painted flesh tone and he said he deals with so many figures he wasn't sure what they did with that figure
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Post by hoganvspiper on Aug 9, 2016 15:26:18 GMT -5
Did you post the answer to the torso being painted? Thanks No sir - he simply said it was a cost cutting measure, they get factory samples of the final version and put the stamp on it to be mass produced. He said they are on it, but didn't seem like he was much aware of the issues we've been having. I gave him an example with warrior being molded in red then painted flesh tone and he said he deals with so many figures he wasn't sure what they did with that figure Sounds like we need to continue to raise awareness around the issue. Otherwise I'm not hearing anything will change.
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Post by RV F'N D on Aug 9, 2016 16:17:32 GMT -5
No sir - he simply said it was a cost cutting measure, they get factory samples of the final version and put the stamp on it to be mass produced. He said they are on it, but didn't seem like he was much aware of the issues we've been having. I gave him an example with warrior being molded in red then painted flesh tone and he said he deals with so many figures he wasn't sure what they did with that figure Sounds like we need to continue to raise awareness around the issue. Otherwise I'm not hearing anything will change. Agreed. I don't get the impression that he's aware of how bad it turns out sometimes.
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Post by MR._SOCKO on Aug 9, 2016 23:56:29 GMT -5
When was the red/black nWo Hall leaked? I don't remember that.
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Post by RV F'N D on Aug 10, 2016 6:51:09 GMT -5
When was the red/black nWo Hall leaked? I don't remember that. I don't think there was a red/black version leaked yet, the leak was a jeans and t-shirt elite in a cancelled HOF 4 pack. The new head sculpt was awesome. We really do need a red and black wrestling attire version of Hall, and soon before something stupid happens. I don't get the hold up.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Aug 10, 2016 6:59:38 GMT -5
When was the red/black nWo Hall leaked? I don't remember that. I don't think there was a red/black version leaked yet, the leak was a jeans and t-shirt elite in a cancelled HOF 4 pack. The new head sculpt was awesome. We really do need a red and black wrestling attire version of Hall, and soon before something stupid happens. I don't get the hold up. Hall and Nash were in jeans? Glad that 4 pack got scrapped then. Woulda liked a WCW Eddie though.
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