BorrachoBancho
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Post by BorrachoBancho on Jan 5, 2017 11:59:45 GMT -5
I really hope they let a current announcer (or announcers) fill in until whatever permanent replacement is revealed. It's jarring enough to have Goldberg gone. But to basically hire a temp in Grisham (if that indeed ends up being his initial purpose) isn't a route I'd like them to go.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 15:55:22 GMT -5
Yeah, but it also says he's not replacing Goldberg himself. So again, I'm guessing he'll be strictly on FS1/FOX/Non-PPV duties. Maybe he's replacing Anik/Stann for play by play? Or a 3 man team for those events? I guess we'll see. I've come to appreciate hearing Stann call fights. Anik I can take or leave. Agreed. Stann has been quite good in his role, quite knowledgeable and likeable.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 5, 2017 23:33:37 GMT -5
Heard Cody is refusing to give Dillashaw the next shot at the Bantamweight Title. He says Cruz will get a rematch first before Dillashaw. Rivera is calling Dillashaw out. This is hilarious. After 207, Dillashaw has got to be ing steaming. He definitely deserved a rematch and how that fight with Cruz never happened is beyond me....other than the fact that he did almost no selling of the fight to get the title fight, where Cody did. I just want to see that snake blow a gasket.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 1:15:58 GMT -5
Man I hope Holly Holm sheds her Buster Douglas skin and wins next month.
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Post by NYdream™ on Jan 6, 2017 8:45:04 GMT -5
Heard Cody is refusing to give Dillashaw the next shot at the Bantamweight Title. He says Cruz will get a rematch first before Dillashaw. Rivera is calling Dillashaw out. This is hilarious. After 207, Dillashaw has got to be ing steaming. He definitely deserved a rematch and how that fight with Cruz never happened is beyond me....other than the fact that he did almost no selling of the fight to get the title fight, where Cody did. I just want to see that snake blow a gasket. He's not just gonna refuse the fight after they don't give him what he wants. He wants Aldo or Connor and I'd bet the house that there's no chance at him getting a super fight at this point. He has no defenses and he's no draw like Conor so I doubt they give him a super fight.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 10:58:10 GMT -5
I'd love to see Garbrandt vs Dillishaw next, but wouldn't be surprised or annoyed at Cruz getting a rematch.
Connor should fight Khabib next. Though I wouldn't mind a rubber match with Diaz.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 6, 2017 13:08:39 GMT -5
Heard Cody is refusing to give Dillashaw the next shot at the Bantamweight Title. He says Cruz will get a rematch first before Dillashaw. Rivera is calling Dillashaw out. This is hilarious. After 207, Dillashaw has got to be ing steaming. He definitely deserved a rematch and how that fight with Cruz never happened is beyond me....other than the fact that he did almost no selling of the fight to get the title fight, where Cody did. I just want to see that snake blow a gasket. He's not just gonna refuse the fight after they don't give him what he wants. He wants Aldo or Connor and I'd bet the house that there's no chance at him getting a super fight at this point. He has no defenses and he's no draw like Conor so I doubt they give him a super fight. I know there is talk for Aldo and Connor, but he doesnt have the power to dictate that. I think thats more talk than it is a reality right now. But I dont doubt him playing mind games with Dillashaw. Cody likes to play those games. Look at what he did with the Cruz fight. He acted like a psycho the entire week before the fight and then went in cool, calm and then started clowning. I'd love to see Garbrandt vs Dillishaw next, but wouldn't be surprised or annoyed at Cruz getting a rematch. Connor should fight Khabib next. Though I wouldn't mind a rubber match with Diaz. Connor SHOULD fight Khabib next...but I still want to know what the deal with the Featherweight belt is. UFC is recognizing Aldo...but Connor still has the physical belt and says he is the champ.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 14:55:07 GMT -5
Well if Conor still has the physical belt why not defend it in a rematch with Aldo? I always felt Aldo deserved an immediate rematch because he was a long time champion and to see if the first fight was a fluke?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 15:30:39 GMT -5
Dos Anjos will move up to welterweight apparently...says he wants to 'fight at his best'... So what's he been doing at lightweight then?
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jan 6, 2017 22:18:47 GMT -5
Dos Anjos will move up to welterweight apparently...says he wants to 'fight at his best'... So what's he been doing at lightweight then? Yeah that is a weird statement, cause i thought he did great at lightweight. I say if his natural weight is more towards Welterweight, then its fine hes moving up. Best of luck to him, maybe we'll see him vs Donald Cerrone again.
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Post by SteveHulk on Jan 6, 2017 22:53:08 GMT -5
Connor SHOULD fight Khabib next...but I still want to know what the deal with the Featherweight belt is. UFC is recognizing Aldo...but Connor still has the physical belt and says he is the champ. ...that's THE fight to make at LW. I don't think it really matters that Conor has the physical belt, if the UFC aren't recognising him as the FW champion - I mean, you and I could easily have/buy a UFC belt... Well if Conor still has the physical belt why not defend it in a rematch with Aldo? I always felt Aldo deserved an immediate rematch because he was a long time champion and to see if the first fight was a fluke? I would have loved to see a rematch too - Aldo was such a great/dominant champion and was just caught cold in that fight. And I really think Conor's achievement (winning 2 belts at the same time) would have been more impressive had he either defended the FW title or beaten Aldo again first.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 7, 2017 23:51:11 GMT -5
Connor SHOULD fight Khabib next...but I still want to know what the deal with the Featherweight belt is. UFC is recognizing Aldo...but Connor still has the physical belt and says he is the champ. ...that's THE fight to make at LW. I don't think it really matters that Conor has the physical belt, if the UFC aren't recognising him as the FW champion - I mean, you and I could easily have/buy a UFC belt... You're right. Having a belt...doesnt make you champion. But the difference between you and I having a UFC belt and Connor having one...Connor KNOCKED OUT Aldo, the same man UFC is magically recognizing as champion. Not to mention, last I checked...Aldo was refusing to fight in UFC with some sort of contract dispute. Until someone BEATS Connor for the FW Title or Connor relinquishes it....I see him as the rightful champion. I hope he shows up at press events and such with both belts and continues to talk crapabout being FW champion, demanding fights in FW.
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Post by SteveHulk on Jan 8, 2017 7:39:43 GMT -5
...that's THE fight to make at LW. I don't think it really matters that Conor has the physical belt, if the UFC aren't recognising him as the FW champion - I mean, you and I could easily have/buy a UFC belt... You're right. Having a belt...doesnt make you champion. But the difference between you and I having a UFC belt and Connor having one...Connor KNOCKED OUT Aldo, the same man UFC is magically recognizing as champion. Not to mention, last I checked...Aldo was refusing to fight in UFC with some sort of contract dispute. Until someone BEATS Connor for the FW Title or Connor relinquishes it....I see him as the rightful champion. I hope he shows up at press events and such with both belts and continues to talk crap about being FW champion, demanding fights in FW. ...it would certainly be interesting(!) - but the FACT is, the UFC stripped him of the FW title (...even if he hasn't actually handed the belt back). He hasn't fought at FW or defended the belt for over a year (3 fights) - and won't be fighting again until June/July at the earliest (he's becoming a father in May and wants some time off). So that would be about 18 months the FW title/division would have been in limbo/without a title fight... if Conor was injured/forced out all that time, it may be a different story - but he's been fighting regularly and is now the champion of another division. Plus, DW said he/the UFC don't want him to hold on to both belts and go back and forth between divisions, as it would cause complications and hold-up two divisions. As for Aldo, he won the interim FW title fair and square (against Edgar) - so promoting him to full champion was the right thing to do (...that's what interim champions are for, after all). I think him refusing to fight was down to him wanting a rematch with Conor more than anything... he's already said he'll be fighting Max Holloway next though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2017 15:55:58 GMT -5
UFC 207 did over a million buys...it was the fifth event on 2016 thru held that did over a million.
Pretty good especially without Rousey doing any media and Velasquez/Werdum falling through.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 8, 2017 18:50:43 GMT -5
You're right. Having a belt...doesnt make you champion. But the difference between you and I having a UFC belt and Connor having one...Connor KNOCKED OUT Aldo, the same man UFC is magically recognizing as champion. Not to mention, last I checked...Aldo was refusing to fight in UFC with some sort of contract dispute. Until someone BEATS Connor for the FW Title or Connor relinquishes it....I see him as the rightful champion. I hope he shows up at press events and such with both belts and continues to talk crap about being FW champion, demanding fights in FW. ...it would certainly be interesting(!) - but the FACT is, the UFC stripped him of the FW title (...even if he hasn't actually handed the belt back). He hasn't fought at FW or defended the belt for over a year (3 fights) - and won't be fighting again until June/July at the earliest (he's becoming a father in May and wants some time off). So that would be about 18 months the FW title/division would have been in limbo/without a title fight... if Conor was injured/forced out all that time, it may be a different story - but he's been fighting regularly and is now the champion of another division. Plus, DW said he/the UFC don't want him to hold on to both belts and go back and forth between divisions, as it would cause complications and hold-up two divisions. As for Aldo, he won the interim FW title fair and square (against Edgar) - so promoting him to full champion was the right thing to do (...that's what interim champions are for, after all). I think him refusing to fight was down to him wanting a rematch with Conor more than anything... he's already said he'll be fighting Max Holloway next though. Thats some good info you provided on the Aldo situation. My opinion is unchanged concerning Connor. Every rule has an exception....Connor is it. He is the biggest draw in UFC. Doing whats right for business is what Dana White is supposed to do. All the points you make, they make sense....cept one. And that is Connor is still the biggest draw. He hasnt ducked anyone. He fought 3 times this year, not to mention how much media he was responsible in doing. He fought in 2 weight divisions and made UFC a lot of money. If he needs a little time off to take care of personal life....so be it. If he wants to fight in 2 divisions, who is UFC to tell him no. They certainly had no issue with it this year. IMO, Connor will remain FW champion until someone can beat him for the FW title. Aldo, as skilled as he is, is a joke as FW champion. He was destroyed by the rightful champion. I would rather have seen a 4 man tournament like UFC did with the HW Title.
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Post by SteveHulk on Jan 9, 2017 2:14:25 GMT -5
Thats some good info you provided on the Aldo situation. My opinion is unchanged concerning Connor. Every rule has an exception....Connor is it. He is the biggest draw in UFC. Doing whats right for business is what Dana White is supposed to do. All the points you make, they make sense....cept one. And that is Connor is still the biggest draw. He hasnt ducked anyone. He fought 3 times this year, not to mention how much media he was responsible in doing. He fought in 2 weight divisions and made UFC a lot of money. If he needs a little time off to take care of personal life....so be it. If he wants to fight in 2 divisions, who is UFC to tell him no. They certainly had no issue with it this year. IMO, Connor will remain FW champion until someone can beat him for the FW title. Well, they did create an interim FW title to keep the division going, while Conor was doing his thing with Nate - and DW even said before he won the LW title that Conor would have to give up one of the belts. I suppose an exception could have been made if Conor would defend the FW title next time out - but by all accounts, he wants to fight at LW and defend that belt. So if he isn't even fighting at FW anymore, I don't really see how he can still be considered the champion. And even if he did want to fight at FW again, that would then mean the LW title wouldn't be defended until around October/November - so it would be holding up that division... it would just cause all sorts of problems/interim fights/frustrations (...Khabib and Ferguson are already chomping at the bit for a LW title shot!). I do think you're being rather harsh on Aldo... yes, he was caught cold by Conor in the opening seconds - but this is still the guy who dominated the division and went undefeated for almost a decade. And it's not his fault that he hasn't had a rematch with Conor - he's been wanting one ever since the defeat, but Conor has been fighting at Welterweight and LW instead. As for the 4 man tournament - that is pretty much what we've had: Aldo beat Edgar to become interim champion (later promoted to full champion), then Holloway beat Pettis to become interim champion... and next (in the "finals") we'll have Aldo Vs Holloway for the undisputed championship.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 9, 2017 13:25:15 GMT -5
Thats some good info you provided on the Aldo situation. My opinion is unchanged concerning Connor. Every rule has an exception....Connor is it. He is the biggest draw in UFC. Doing whats right for business is what Dana White is supposed to do. All the points you make, they make sense....cept one. And that is Connor is still the biggest draw. He hasnt ducked anyone. He fought 3 times this year, not to mention how much media he was responsible in doing. He fought in 2 weight divisions and made UFC a lot of money. If he needs a little time off to take care of personal life....so be it. If he wants to fight in 2 divisions, who is UFC to tell him no. They certainly had no issue with it this year. IMO, Connor will remain FW champion until someone can beat him for the FW title. Well, they did create an interim FW title to keep the division going, while Conor was doing his thing with Nate - and DW even said before he won the LW title that Conor would have to give up one of the belts. I suppose an exception could have been made if Conor would defend the FW title next time out - but by all accounts, he wants to fight at LW and defend that belt. So if he isn't even fighting at FW anymore, I don't really see how he can still be considered the champion. And even if he did want to fight at FW again, that would then mean the LW title wouldn't be defended until around October/November - so it would be holding up that division... it would just cause all sorts of problems/interim fights/frustrations (...Khabib and Ferguson are already chomping at the bit for a LW title shot!). I do think you're being rather harsh on Aldo... yes, he was caught cold by Conor in the opening seconds - but this is still the guy who dominated the division and went undefeated for almost a decade. And it's not his fault that he hasn't had a rematch with Conor - he's been wanting one ever since the defeat, but Conor has been fighting at Welterweight and LW instead. As for the 4 man tournament - that is pretty much what we've had: Aldo beat Edgar to become interim champion (later promoted to full champion), then Holloway beat Pettis to become interim champion... and next (in the "finals") we'll have Aldo Vs Holloway for the undisputed championship. I definitely agree that if he isnt willing to defend the title...he shouldnt be champion. But if he comes out and says his next fight he wants the top FW contender, Aldo, Holloway, whoever. Then this is on UFC. You cant be the rightful champion if you are refusing to defend the belt. You make a great point concerning the FW "tournament". I had not thought of it that way.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 15:44:31 GMT -5
Christ - what did Meryl Streep think would happen with ignorant comments like that?
Twitter is blowing up...!!
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Jan 9, 2017 23:39:41 GMT -5
Christ - what did Meryl Streep think would happen with ignorant comments like that? Twitter is blowing up...!! What did I miss? Lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 5:36:08 GMT -5
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