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Post by Booger Red on May 15, 2017 19:30:01 GMT -5
Don't forget about the winner of Mark Hunt vs Derrick Lewis. Nunes won the first fight but she started to gas by the third round and Valentina easily won round 3. If Amanda's conditioning hasn't improved and Valentina can go the distance, I would favor Shevchenko by decision. Nunes has to get the finish by the 3rd round or she could be in for a long night. If Mark Hunt had beat Overeem, i would buy it, but i bet Dana will either have Cain Velasquez face Stipe next, or hotshot Francis Ngannou. You could be right about Hunt vs Lewis. Was it announced that that fight would be the title eliminator to face Stipe, or just a feeling you have? I think the only logical fights to make is Stipe vs Cain, Stipe vs Ngannou, or Stipe vs Lewis since we haven't seen Miocic against either of those guys. We've seen Stipe destroy Hunt, JDS, Overeem, Arlovksi, and Werdum. I'd say set up Miocic vs Velasquez, Ngannou against a top 5-10 heavyweight, and have the winner of Lewis vs Hunt get the UFC HW Title shot against the winner of Stipe/Cain. Then again, maybe they'll give the title shot to the winner of Overeem/Werdum, which I don't think makes much sense since Stipe beat them 2-3 fights ago. |
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on May 15, 2017 19:35:06 GMT -5
If Mark Hunt had beat Overeem, i would buy it, but i bet Dana will either have Cain Velasquez face Stipe next, or hotshot Francis Ngannou. You could be right about Hunt vs Lewis. Was it announced that that fight would be the title eliminator to face Stipe, or just a feeling you have? I think the only logical fights to make is Stipe vs Cain, Stipe vs Ngannou, or Stipe vs Lewis since we haven't seen Miocic against either of those guys. We've seen Stipe destroy Hunt, JDS, Overeem, Arlovksi, and Werdum. I'd say set up Miocic vs Velasquez, Ngannou against a top 5-10 heavyweight, and have the winner of Lewis vs Hunt get the UFC HW Title shot against the winner of Stipe/Cain. Then again, maybe they'll give the title shot to the winner of Overeem/Werdum, which I don't think makes much sense since Stipe beat them 2-3 fights ago. I feel it. Itll be interesting to see what happens. Ill be rooting for Stipe all the way, but fear his chances as well lol. Thought i feared Stipe would struggle like he did with Overeem at 203, and i feel if it wasn't because Overeem let go of that chokehold, Stipe would have lost and Cleveland would have rioted lol |
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Post by Booger Red on May 15, 2017 19:38:13 GMT -5
I think the only logical fights to make is Stipe vs Cain, Stipe vs Ngannou, or Stipe vs Lewis since we haven't seen Miocic against either of those guys. We've seen Stipe destroy Hunt, JDS, Overeem, Arlovksi, and Werdum. I'd say set up Miocic vs Velasquez, Ngannou against a top 5-10 heavyweight, and have the winner of Lewis vs Hunt get the UFC HW Title shot against the winner of Stipe/Cain. Then again, maybe they'll give the title shot to the winner of Overeem/Werdum, which I don't think makes much sense since Stipe beat them 2-3 fights ago. I feel it. Itll be interesting to see what happens. Ill be rooting for Stipe all the way, but fear his chances as well lol. Thought i feared Stipe would struggle like he did with Overeem at 203, and i feel if it wasn't because Overeem let go of that chokehold, Stipe would have lost and Cleveland would have rioted lol Stipe's run to the championship and his defenses have been nothing short of incredible. If he successfully defends the UFC HW Title in his next defense, he'll be the most successful UFC Heavyweight Champ in history. He's on his way to becoming one of the heavyweight GOATS in MMA. |
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on May 15, 2017 19:40:40 GMT -5
I feel it. Itll be interesting to see what happens. Ill be rooting for Stipe all the way, but fear his chances as well lol. Thought i feared Stipe would struggle like he did with Overeem at 203, and i feel if it wasn't because Overeem let go of that chokehold, Stipe would have lost and Cleveland would have rioted lol Stipe's run to the championship and his defenses have been nothing short of incredible. If he successfully defends the UFC HW Title in his next defense, he'll be the most successful UFC Heavyweight Champ in history. He's on his way to becoming one of the heavyweight GOATS in MMA. Heck yeah. I loved how he recovered quickly when he faced Overeem and Overeem had him in a chokehold, but then Overeem let go, Stipe recovered and knocked him out. I feel had Overeem never let go of the hold, Stipe would not be champion today. I was very impressed with how quick he beat Dos Santos. I thought that fight was gonna be a 3 round fight with Stipe winning |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 23:42:54 GMT -5
This summer is shaping up to be an awesome one for MMA.
Romero and Bisping (assuming Bisping doesn't duck him again). Jones and Cormier (assuming Jones etc etc etc). McGregor returning at some point (unless he boxes Mayweather first). Lewis and Hunt. Holm and Correia. Nunes and Schevchenko. Weidman and Gastelum.
So many great fights. Can't wait!
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Post by SteveHulk on May 17, 2017 13:39:47 GMT -5
Romero and Bisping ( assuming Bisping doesn't duck him again). ...Bisping was never even offered a fight with Romero. Just saying. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 14:15:51 GMT -5
Romero and Bisping ( assuming Bisping doesn't duck him again). ...Bisping was never even offered a fight with Romero. Just saying. Well how about that... When he was originally in talks for a fight with GSP for UFC 214, he made no mention of his knee and was all ready to go. He said he would fight Romero after. Now that the fight has been scrapped and Romero is next, he's suddenly "not training" and "in pain". I don't care what anyone says. The fact is the dude is terrified of Romero because he knows he'll lose and will never get the GSP fight again. He's made one title defense in the last year and it was to an approaching 50 year old Henderson, who still managed to knock him on his ass a few times. He's a whack champion. And if he doesn't defend it this summer, he needs to be stripped of the title. It would be an absolute travesty if Dana White lets this dude keep the belt all the way through the Fall just so he can have a fight with GSP that no one asked for. |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 17, 2017 14:34:02 GMT -5
...I don't know - it's almost as if this place is Haunted...  ...Bisping was never even offered a fight with Romero. Just saying. Well how about that... When he was originally in talks for a fight with GSP for UFC 214, he made no mention of his knee and was all ready to go. He said he would fight Romero after. Now that the fight has been scrapped and Romero is next, he's suddenly "not training" and "in pain".I don't care what anyone says. The fact is the dude is terrified of Romero because he knows he'll lose and will never get the GSP fight again. He's made one title defense in the last year and it was to an approaching 50 year old Henderson, who still managed to knock him on his ass a few times. He's a whack champion. And if he doesn't defend it this summer, he needs to be stripped of the title. It would be an absolute travesty if Dana White lets this dude keep the belt all the way through the Fall just so he can have a fight with GSP that no one asked for. Of course, he'll want to do everything he can to keep the GSP fight... and of course he'd be willing to fight injured/through the pain as it's a MUCH bigger payday than the one with Romero. That's just common sense. And there's still the fact that he's NEVER been officially offered (or turned down) a fight with Romero - he's said time and again, if that's who the UFC wants him to fight next, then that's who he'll fight. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 15:11:21 GMT -5
...I don't know - it's almost as if this place is Haunted... www.mmamania.com/2017/5/17/15653894/michael-bisping-too-injured-fight-yoel-romero-prefers-wait-georges-st-pierre-mmaWell how about that... When he was originally in talks for a fight with GSP for UFC 214, he made no mention of his knee and was all ready to go. He said he would fight Romero after. Now that the fight has been scrapped and Romero is next, he's suddenly "not training" and "in pain".I don't care what anyone says. The fact is the dude is terrified of Romero because he knows he'll lose and will never get the GSP fight again. He's made one title defense in the last year and it was to an approaching 50 year old Henderson, who still managed to knock him on his ass a few times. He's a whack champion. And if he doesn't defend it this summer, he needs to be stripped of the title. It would be an absolute travesty if Dana White lets this dude keep the belt all the way through the Fall just so he can have a fight with GSP that no one asked for. Of course, he'll want to do everything he can to keep the GSP fight... and of course he'd be willing to fight injured/through the pain as it's a MUCH bigger payday than the one with Romero. That's just common sense. And there's still the fact that he's NEVER been officially offered (or turned down) a fight with Romero - he's said time and again, if that's who the UFC wants him to fight next, then that's who he'll fight. Is accusing people of being a former banned member the default response of getting butthurt here? Try staying on the topic and not the poster. I get it. You're from England. Bisping is your idol. Doesn't change the fact that he's a terrible MW champ and is scared of Romero. |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 17, 2017 16:21:14 GMT -5
Is accusing people of being a former banned member the default response of getting butthurt here? Not "butthurt" at all, mate - just pointing out the obvious. And if it's a false accusation, then I apologise (...but I don't think it is - we shall see). Lol... OK. |
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Post by Kollector_Kombat on May 17, 2017 20:20:39 GMT -5
Is accusing people of being a former banned member the default response of getting butthurt here? Not "butthurt" at all, mate - just pointing out the obvious. And if it's a false accusation, then I apologise (...but I don't think it is - we shall see). Lol... OK. Cool it fellas. No reason to assume things. There's the same 'argument' 5 pages back. Reread that and get this outta your system. Cool? Cool. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 20:46:05 GMT -5
This is the last thing I'll say about Bisping...
For anyone to say "oh it's logical that he wants to fight GSP" etc etc, that's the problem! The champion shouldn't get to decide if and when he fights the #1 contender. Bisping is using his injury as a political move to strong arm his way in or out of a match depending on who the opponent is. It's disgraceful. Politicking to avoid opponents is exactly what has plagued the boxing industry for decades. And Bisping knows the UFC is reluctant to strip him of the title, because the last thing they need in the public eye is another interim champion.
Bisping and any of his fans who defend his BS are clueless. If you had any integrity whatsoever, you would WANT Bisping to fight the best. And as of right now, that's Yoel Romero. He's been the number 1 contender since November. And if that's not enough motivation, Bisping should should be motivated to shut his doubters up (as should his fans). But no! You're totally okay with this guy ducking the number one contender so he can make more money and fight an arguably less dangerous opponent.
I'm a huge fan of McGregor. And you know who I was dying for him to face? Khabib. Because Khabib was the most dangerous opponent for him as he's fantastic at takedowns and the ground (a weakness of Conor's). But I believe in the integrity of sports in that the best should face the best. Needless to say I was devastated when Khabib had to drop out, and I'm still hoping that fight happens someday (although unlikely now given his history and how UFC had already been hesitant about him to begin with).
It also reminds me of how people were wanting OKC to eliminate the Warriors last year. As a LeBron fan, I wanted Golden State. I wanted Golden State because they were the best team in the league and they had beaten Cleveland the year before. They were more dangerous and that's exactly who deserved to be in the Finals (luckily it worked out). Same thing this year. I want Golden State again. And honestly, I think Golden State is going to win it all this year. But I would never want them to be eliminated by San Antonio (would take a miracle now) because I know it would be a fluke. They're the baddest team in the league and they should absolutely be facing the other baddest team (Cavaliers).
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Post by SteveHulk on May 17, 2017 22:20:32 GMT -5
Not "butthurt" at all, mate - just pointing out the obvious. And if it's a false accusation, then I apologise (...but I don't think it is - we shall see). Lol... OK. Cool it fellas. No reason to assume things. There's the same 'argument' 5 pages back. Reread that and get this outta your system. Cool? Cool. It's all cool, KK... I should have known better, sorry - I'll try not to bite *next time* |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 23:11:30 GMT -5
Cool it fellas. No reason to assume things. There's the same 'argument' 5 pages back. Reread that and get this outta your system. Cool? Cool. It's all cool, KK... I should have known better, sorry - I'll try not to bite *next time* He knew it straight away though, eh? Good onya Steve. |
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Post by Kollector_Kombat on May 18, 2017 0:58:16 GMT -5
It's all cool, KK... I should have known better, sorry - I'll try not to bite *next time* He knew it straight away though, eh? Good onya Steve. Yeah, that's basically why I brought the 'debate' on page 25 up. Not that it bothers me but did he get banned or delete himself? Honestly I think Dana's always been full of shyt. He'll tell us Bisping's taking the Yoel fight, then next thing you know Yoel'll be fighting Whittaker or something. I'd like to see the GSP/Bisping match up though. Always liked both of 'em and if Bisping wins he'd be the only guy to have faced both The Spider and GSP and get the W. They're both a little passed there prime but that'd still be a huge accomplishment. Bisping would NEVER shut up after that and I'd love it. Dude deserves it, he's been around forever. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 21:52:57 GMT -5
Looks like Conor/Mayweather is becoming more and more of a reality...
Firmly behind Conor here - hope he does MMA proud against an elite boxer like Floyd...
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Post by King Richius on May 18, 2017 23:56:29 GMT -5
Looks like Conor/Mayweather is becoming more and more of a reality... Firmly behind Conor here - hope he does MMA proud against an elite boxer like Floyd... Saw one of the ESPN talking heads going on about Conor having zero chance... and then saying how much he hopes the fight happens so he could see Conor snap and clean Floyd's clock with a roundhouse kick to the head. Honestly, if I knew that was going to happen I'd buy the fight Another one suggested that the fight be a boxing match for the first 9 rounds. If both men are still standing after 9 rounds, make the 10th and final round MMA style. He speculated that would force Floyd to actually fight because he would have to knock Conor out before the final round because everyone agrees: Floyd wins a boxing match but McGregor wins an MMA fight. |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 19, 2017 13:22:07 GMT -5
I read that DW said it would be contested under boxing rules - so I don't think Conor would have much of a chance, unfortunately... I would absolutely LOVE him (Conor) to win though.
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Post by Kollector_Kombat on May 19, 2017 14:32:54 GMT -5
Just read Dana White's considering making a Yoel/Whittaker fight for the interm belt on account of Bisping's apparent injury..
Called it.
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Post by Kollector_Kombat on May 19, 2017 20:30:55 GMT -5
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