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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 30, 2016 13:52:49 GMT -5
To be fair to her, the company has lasted for fourteen years based on nothing other than her ability to ask her parents for money. Without Dixie, TNA would have been dead a few months after it started. I know nothing about TNA really, but when was the time frame from when the Jarretts started TNA to when Dixie joined, or was she aboard from the beginning? Weren't the Jarretts involved for years? Dixie was working for TNA as a publicist from the very beginning, I think, or at least in the first month or two. Then the company was going to die so she got her folks to buy the majority of the company and save it. That was in October 2002, four months after TNA started. After that happened, Jerry stuck around for a couple of years and Jeff was still involved for many years.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2016 14:27:25 GMT -5
I know nothing about TNA really, but when was the time frame from when the Jarretts started TNA to when Dixie joined, or was she aboard from the beginning? Weren't the Jarretts involved for years? Dixie was working for TNA as a publicist from the very beginning, I think, or at least in the first month or two. Then the company was going to die so she got her folks to buy the majority of the company and save it. That was in October 2002, four months after TNA started. After that happened, Jerry stuck around for a couple of years and Jeff was still involved for many years. It was already going to tank after four months!? Oooof.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 30, 2016 14:33:26 GMT -5
Dixie was working for TNA as a publicist from the very beginning, I think, or at least in the first month or two. Then the company was going to die so she got her folks to buy the majority of the company and save it. That was in October 2002, four months after TNA started. After that happened, Jerry stuck around for a couple of years and Jeff was still involved for many years. It was already going to tank after four months!? Oooof. Yeah, without the Carters, TNA wouldn't have even seen one Christmas.
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Post by Rob on Sept 30, 2016 15:07:23 GMT -5
TNA should have went on the road and became a touring company in 09ish instead of blowing all their money/budget on Hogan and friends. That was their critical mistake. If Dixie Carter had a single clue on how to run a wrestling promotion, TNA would still be a thriving company instead of the depressing dark hole it is now. Becoming a touring company was Hogan and Friends' idea and that's when everything started going downhill. Trying to go national in a futile attempt to compete with WWE was how they blew their budget. They still should have toured part time during 07-09 before they filled up their roster with WCW/WWE has beens. Its crazy how much money they lost by staying planted in Florida.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2016 15:11:12 GMT -5
Becoming a touring company was Hogan and Friends' idea and that's when everything started going downhill. Trying to go national in a futile attempt to compete with WWE was how they blew their budget. They still should have toured part time during 07-09 before they filled up their roster with WCW/WWE has beens. Its crazy how much money they lost by staying planted in Florida. WCW/WWE (and ECW) has beens have been a thing since TNA's inception.
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Post by East Coast on Sept 30, 2016 16:05:58 GMT -5
"almost" officially done???
i bet if u search....there are like 100 TNA is done threads on this board
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Post by SmithyPlayz on Sept 30, 2016 16:44:04 GMT -5
Dixie Tweeted this out: Going to be an INCREDIBLE live #BoundForGlory on Sunday and big things planned for @impactwrestling shows. @poptv
TNA are still here
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Post by LA Times on Sept 30, 2016 17:10:59 GMT -5
Can somebody buy my ebay inventory of toys, clothing and electronics? I want to be an investor in TNA
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Post by Sizzle on Sept 30, 2016 17:44:48 GMT -5
So uhh... Any updates yet today? The doomsday clock is still ticking. So much drama. I love it.. I really just want to see this company die already.. And Vinnie Mac to rape them for the tape library. I want that too. Dixie Carter caused this mess, it's a real shame Wow.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Sept 30, 2016 17:53:17 GMT -5
For the people saying that the Philadelphia crowd would eat up TNA alive, that isn't really the case.
Back in 2006 and 2007, TNA ran a lot of shows in the old ECW Arena in Philadelphia and were over huge with the crowd. Now I know that is a different era for TNA, but this is also the same city that loved Tri State Wrestling in 1990 and 1991, and was a fan of the original Eastern Championship Wrestling in 1992 and 1993, when guys like Larry Winters, and D.C. Drake were on the card. Philadelphia will support you if you try your hardest and show that you want to get better.
Also, I believe it was like two years ago now when TNA did a lot of shows out of New York, and the fans loved it.
TNA can survive, just it seems Dixie refuses to put any big money into it. I think maybe to her, TNA is just her way of being on TV and being a 'celebrity' to people.
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Post by BASTARDKING on Sept 30, 2016 18:21:06 GMT -5
So uhh... Any updates yet today? The doomsday clock is still ticking. So much drama. I love it.. I really just want to see this company die already.. And Vinnie Mac to rape them for the tape library. I want that too. Dixie Carter caused this mess, it's a real shame Wow. Tis the truth, good brother
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Post by Sizzle on Sept 30, 2016 18:26:10 GMT -5
Tis the truth, good brother That's a nice outlook on things. Wanting a company to die...
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Post by deskjet on Sept 30, 2016 19:59:20 GMT -5
Tis the truth, good brother That's a nice outlook on things. Wanting a company to die...
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Post by BASTARDKING on Sept 30, 2016 20:46:17 GMT -5
Tis the truth, good brother That's a nice outlook on things. Wanting a company to die... Only because they had a chance to be an actual competitor but squandered it at every turn. I used to be a big mark for the product but felt betrayed when they took everything that made tna special and different and basically wiped their asses with it and diluted the product with a 4 sided ring and signing big names instead of pushing their homegrown talent as far as they could. They did it to them selves
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2016 20:53:20 GMT -5
That's a nice outlook on things. Wanting a company to die... Only because they had a chance to be an actual competitor but squandered it at every turn. I used to be a big mark for the product but felt betrayed when they took everything that made tna special and different and basically wiped their asses with it and diluted the product with a 4 sided ring and signing big names instead of pushing their homegrown talent as far as they could. They did it to them selves TNA were never a competitor to WWE and they only started screwing up when they tried to be one. Also, the four sides.d ring was a good idea. The six sided ring was much harder to bump on for the workers. Bringing it back was a waste of money. Also wrestlers who aren't wrestling for WWE are likely going to wrestle somewhere else.
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Post by TheLastDude on Sept 30, 2016 21:12:08 GMT -5
The iMPACT Zone is a loss each time might be true but so would running events in Nashville or Atlanta or whatever name someone wants to pull out of their hat. The location ain't the problem. The problem is nobody gives a big enough s*** about this company to spend money on them.
False. They were nearly selling out the Manhattan Center for 3 straight nights of tapings in NYC. I wouldnt try and run in Nashville or Atlanta either. They dont provide an advantage over Orlando area and are not in the hot bed of pro wrestling in the north east. Its more than just how many tickets are sold though...how much it costs vs. how much you can generate is more important. If TNA can only draw a house of 300 people but can make a 20% profit...thats better than drawing a house of 3000 and making a 2% profit. This. They couldn't go just anywhere though. I think their best bet, should they move, would be Philly. Not sure how the fans would react, but I guarenDAMNtee you'd get a reaction that would rock a TV taping. The Philly fans are rabid about their wrestling. I also think TNA would go over better in Philly than WWE, because TNA lends itself to more Non-PG content possibilities than WWE does right now. Just sayin'. I think you are on the right track. I would suggest mini tours, take advantage of spending money on flights and maximize. Run a 3-5 city home base. That means you have 3 to 5 different locations that you will tape out of. House your television equipment there so not to have to transport it around. You can stick to your once a month tapings. Maybe run 2300, Rahway, NJ, Baltimore, Rochester and maybe Conneticut. Then for example, you tape your tv Tuesday, Wed and Thurs. Each night offer a mini meet n greet package with 2-3 TNA stars for 1 hour before doors. Then travel to Easton on Friday for a house show, Harrisburg on Sat. for a house show and Reading on Sunday for a house show. There's your loop back to Philly. Now you have maximized return on your investment into flights. You have completed 4 to 5 televised events and drawn revenue in ticket sales. You have done 3 house shows that you have been able to sell backstage passes with. I just think TNA isnt thinking enough outside the box. I would also look to, not trim, but eliminate parts of the roster that may be costly. By costly, I dont mean high salary....but what it costs for travel. Flying the Hardys from NC is a no brainer. Merchandise, drawing power, etc. makes them worth it. Lets take Rockstar Spud for example. The dude is in Tenn. He is a bit player in the X division. Assume is guarantee is very small. But flying him here, there...etc. is costly. Offer him the chance to relocate or cut bait. Then I would look to expand my roster by using north east talents. Let me use guys that live in this area and can drive in. No rental car needed and no flight. I would even look to possibly pair up with indy fed leaders who have established themselves in areas by offering a piece of the gate and perhaps a house show spot for 2 of their guys they would like to feature. This would take some pressure off TNA on how to promote in the area, provide free advertising to an established fan base of indy wrestling fans and reduce costs. You dont lose any liquidity and instead are simply offering potential. In turn, the indy fed is garnering a bigger audience to promote their brand. They get a chance to feature their guys in front of some different fans. They open doors to TNA. And they get to profit from it as well. Simply...they TNA would be reverting back to the old NWA territory days. All these local area feds will be partnered with TNA and become an almost affiliate for them. WWE is all about global domination and they have done it. So why not be about regional control. Do you ever make a post where you don't sound condescending?
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Post by BASTARDKING on Sept 30, 2016 21:53:07 GMT -5
Only because they had a chance to be an actual competitor but squandered it at every turn. I used to be a big mark for the product but felt betrayed when they took everything that made tna special and different and basically wiped their asses with it and diluted the product with a 4 sided ring and signing big names instead of pushing their homegrown talent as far as they could. They did it to them selves TNA were never a competitor to WWE and they only started screwing up when they tried to be one. Also, the four sides.d ring was a good idea. The six sided ring was much harder to bump on for the workers. Bringing it back was a waste of money. Also wrestlers who aren't wrestling for WWE are likely going to wrestle somewhere else. Never claimed they were a competitor, just said they had the chance and tools to do it, but couldn't ever get the job done
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Post by JC Motors on Sept 30, 2016 22:10:07 GMT -5
So is TNA going to die?
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Post by Sizzle on Sept 30, 2016 22:16:37 GMT -5
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Post by IRS on Sept 30, 2016 22:29:24 GMT -5
They are the mighty cockroache. They will withstand anything.
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